StHustle Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 Why shouldn't this game be considered bigger than if we were facing any other 2-4 division opponent? BECAUSE BRADY IS GONE!! DUH!!!! It was a miserable day for me when he officially left the Pats. I sat back shaking my head watching other fans celebrate his departure. Celebrate? Celebrate what? I felt like a loser. I knew it was over. Our chances had dried up. We failed. We let Brady go almost two whole decades owning us. And even when he got into his 40's he still owned us. They swept us countless seasons with him at the helm. I remember thinking last preseason that he would regress a little and maybe we would FINALLY sweep them. Then later thinking how it still would suck because it took for Brady to be 42 for us to finally pull it off. Sweeping him that year wouldn't fix shish. Then the season plays out and what happens? With one last shot at preventing the long ash career sweep shutout, we allow Brady to land a final KO punch, and HE SWEEPS US!! What an ending. We failed guys. Let's face it, lick our wounds and reset. Oh, and don't try to make this about Belichick. Beating the Pats with Cam at QB is NOWHERE NEAR THE SAME THING AS BEATING THEM WITH BRADY. To me there's an exponential difference if its not The Pair. Many of you seem to be approaching this game with that exact same frame of mind as years past. That baffles me. That slay the dragon mentality, when in reality, there is no longer a dragon around to slay. Our chances to do that have come and gone. All that's left is a permanent stain on our record that will inevitably be mentioned time and time again in the future, because Brady, being the GOAT, will be talked about forever. His dominance on his division will be talked about forever. Not as much, BUT, his dominance against one team in particular will be talked about forever. WHY? Because he has the most wins of any QB against one team in NFL history. Just a random notch on Tom Brady's belt. It's universally agreed (which is not an easy feat in the sports world) that Tom is the best QB of all time, and Bill is the best head coach of all time. So our only consolation prize is that we can feel a little less bad about it all since it was the GOATs who handed us the most embarrassing 20 year record between division "rivals" in league history. They weren't some random HC-QB pair who shined for an era. NOPE! ALL TIME GOATS! Unfortunately they landed in the AFC East and we took the brunt of it. They would have done this same thing to some other team if they landed in a different division as a pair (we'd like to think anyway). It damn near makes me physically sick typing this post right now. I never expressed my feelings on this matter neither verbally nor through writing. The feeling is terrible but is mitigated by my belief in the not so distant future for this team. So like I said, let's reset and realize this is nothing more than a home division game that we should win. I think most the players know this and don't have that imaginary psychological hurdle to get over. And lastly, YES! When we win, it WILL feel better than beating the Jets or the Phins. Just seeing the final scoreboard with a larger number next to the Bills logo than what's next to the Pats logo, HELL YEAH! That's just a natural human reaction for people who spent the number of years we have dominated by one team. Wins against them will fill better than other division wins for years to come. Im sure some players will feel that way for at least the next few matches, as will some coaches. Especially McD, who has never beat either of the GOATs. But at the end of the day, when your over the top emotions wear off, just understand a win over the Pats Sunday means nothing more than keeping them in 3rd place and taking a step toward winning a tiebreaker if it comes to that. It wouldn't be some legendary victory or signature win like many are painting it to be. That era is over. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 The past is the past. I don't care about it. What I care about is winning no matter who we play and trying to get to and win a SuperBowl. That's what matters. I dont thi k that happens this year but if we win the division that's a huge milestone to me. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 (edited) Don't worry, you'll get your Brady shot in the SB. I reset that era mentally and just moving forward to hopefully owning the Pats in the 2020-2030's. There is still BB that this team needs to overcome alone and that is still a large stepping stone IMO. There is nothing else we can really do about it at this phase. We had our chances and failed against those Brady teams like many, many others. Just prove we can beat down the Cheats and win the F'ing Division for %^$& sake this year and forward. Edited October 29, 2020 by Real McNasty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 (edited) I could care less if this is a monumental game or not. Getting to 6-2 is all that matters. Edited October 29, 2020 by njbuff 6 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAinLack. Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 26 minutes ago, Real McNasty said: Don't worry, you'll get your Brady shot in the SB. I reset that era mentally and just moving forward to hopefully owning the Pats in he 2020-2030's. There is still BB that this team needs to overcome alone and that is still a large stepping stone IMO. There nothing else we can really do about it at this phase. We had our chances and failed against those Brady teams like many, many others. Just prove we can beat down the Cheats and win the F'ing Division for %^$& sake. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmur66 Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 (edited) Brady had more wins against Buffalo than any Buffalo QB has wins since the Jim Kelly era. Even without Brady, Buffalo still needs to get over the psychological hump of beating the Patriots Edited October 29, 2020 by bmur66 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 TLDR Go Bills! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 I think many believe Bill has the ability to reserect the Pats from near playoff death. Buffalo has a chance in early November to put a nail in the coffin. Buffalo takes a 4 game lead goodnight. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 You were miserable when Brady left? This guy beats us miserably for two decades and it would have made you feel better by beating him this year? So he goes from like 34-2 against us and if we were to beat him 2020....somehow makes up for it? 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ManRaid Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 Yawn. Cool story bro, tell another. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 Even if Brady was on the team and the Bills swept them at the end of his career, what would that really mean anyway? The damage is done, beating an old man proves what? Is the game "monumental"? Only to the Bills and Bills fans, but it is. Is the season over if they lose? They could win this division while losing twice tot he Pats they way this season is going....but if that happens it wont feel right to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 You can say it's not monumental, but it is important. Getting to 6-2 at the halfway point gives us quite the advantage in the division. I believe it is also huge mentally for our guys to go out there and smack the Patriots around. Regardless of whom they have on the field, this is a team that has gone like 35-5 against us over the last 20 years. I think they, McDermottt and our team, need this mentally more so than anything else. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 This and the “daddy issues” post sound like attempts to preemptively soothe some souls if the Bills lose Sunday. Make no mistake about it — W/L records don’t matter in this one and it is the biggest game of McD’s coaching tenure. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfanmiamioh Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 2 minutes ago, eball said: This and the “daddy issues” post sound like attempts to preemptively soothe some souls if the Bills lose Sunday. Make no mistake about it — W/L records don’t matter in this one and it is the biggest game of McD’s coaching tenure. I think the “complaining Bills fans” thread / narrative applies here as well... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jletha Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 Brady/Belichek/history/blah blah doesnt matter. Belichek still is a defensive mastermind and its a division game. NE has two games against the Jets left. Two of our wins are against the Jets. If we lose this and lose to Sea & SF (who NE also lost ) and they sweep the Jets like we did we are all right there for the division, along with Miami likely. This game is a full 1-game swing for both teams. THAT is why its important. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 Can you carefully walk us through your process for deciding which words to put in ALL CAPS? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickey Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 I don't feel this to be a big deal either way with regard to Brady. If he had stayed and we beat them and went on to win the division that would not wipe out the years of dominance and endless string of losses the Bills endured throughout his career. It is simply a fact that Brady is one of the greatest QB's to ever play the game and that he beat us like toy drum for years and years. Yeah there was some cheating and lots of help from officials but in the end, he beat us because he was simply better. The Brady era in the AFC East is over. We can't change history but we can own the future. This game is about the Bills taking a huge step towards winning the division for the first time in years. A quick look at the schedule will tell you that the Patriots have a good chance to gain some ground on the Bills in the second half of the season. Sticking them with another loss this week makes it that much harder for them to mount any kind of comeback. It may not be a stake to the heart of a rotting succubus but it is at least a bucket of holy water in the face of the most unholy Patriots. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 With or without Brady, the Patriots still stand in the Bills way to a division title. So I view this as a big game and a critical point in their journey back to being respectable. Go 6-2 at the halfway point and drop your biggest competition to 2-5. Anything short of a win is failure to take control of the division and put some hurt on the logo that's been beating you like a drum for almost 2 decades. Let's not make excuses or minimize the importance of this game. It time to man-up and play lights out football on Sunday. Nothing short of maximum effort and focus and preparedness is going to cut it. Time to slay the beast! Or punch the bully in the face! However it can be described. Get it done right here and right now on Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 it's a divisional game where a win gets us closer to the division title. Who said it's monumental? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Cubed Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 Show me on the diagram how he hurt you... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 https://fbschedules.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/ If it helps the Bills get to play Marcia next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwai San Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, bmur66 said: Other than JK I think Brady had more wins against Buffalo than any Buffalo QB had wins. Even without Brady, Buffalo still needs to get over the psychological hump of beating the Patriots Some guy named Jack Kemp might disagree with that comment.....Or Jim Kelly depending on whom your JK references.....Oh and Joe Ferguson too.... Edited October 29, 2020 by Kwai San Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 whatever. Win on Sunday and we are much closer to winning the division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 (edited) It's to bad fans can't go the games. If the Bills win I think this would have a 1980 season opener feeling to it when the Bills ended "the streak" against Miami. But this game would represent more of a changing of the guard in the AFC East. Lets face it a win makes them 6-2 and the Pats 2-5. Miami is doing a nice job rebuilding but they are probably a year or two away. The Jets would have trouble beating a HS football team right now. Edited October 29, 2020 by Greg S 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan1972 Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 30 minutes ago, eball said: This and the “daddy issues” post sound like attempts to preemptively soothe some souls if the Bills lose Sunday. Make no mistake about it — W/L records don’t matter in this one and it is the biggest game of McD’s coaching tenure. I said it in an earlier thread, the bills can not afford to lose this game. It is not a statement game either. Very simply it is a game that the Bills need to win after three not great efforts to show they are a serious contender and a good team. Then they play statement games vs. Seattle & Arizona.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 8 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said: I said it in an earlier thread, the bills can not afford to lose this game. It is not a statement game either. Very simply it is a game that the Bills need to win after three not great efforts to show they are a serious contender and a good team. Then they play statement games vs. Seattle & Arizona.... Arizona is a funny team though. They are like many teams that go up and down from week to week. They beat Seattle in a thriller at home but lose to the Lions at home. They will be a good test for our defense. Offensively we should be able to move the ball on them. As for this week just get to 6-2 and the Bills should win this game as they are the better team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 You seem to be the only one thinking the word "Monumental" so maybe you didn't need to make this thread. Just talk to yourself in the mirror next time. I didn't bother to read past no tom brady... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjt328 Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 The rise of the New England Patriots dynasty around 20-25 years ago, coincided very much with the demise of the 90's era Buffalo Bills. They never took the AFC East when we were at our peak, loaded with Hall of Famers and in the midst of our Super Bowl run. During those years, the Patriots were a total joke and not even worth mentioning on our schedule. It wasn't until our key players started getting near retirement, free agency started depleting our roster and they happened to add Bill Parcells/Drew Bledsoe that the Patriots were even a threat to beat us on Sundays. Even then, their dominance in the division didn't start until Jim Kelly was long retired and we were busy having QB controversies between Doug Flutie and Rob Johnson. While hoisting the Lombardi Trophy, I highly doubt any of their fans were thinking... "This would be so much more satisfying if we had done it against Jim Kelly, Bruce Smith and Thurman Thomas." They didn't care. Just like we didn't care during the 1990s that our dominance over the AFC East wasn't happening over Bob Griese and Larry Csonka. And we shouldn't really care now about Tom Brady. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddick Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 It's still important for McD to show he can outsmart Belichick, IMO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan1972 Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 19 minutes ago, Greg S said: Arizona is a funny team though. They are like many teams that go up and down from week to week. They beat Seattle in a thriller at home but lose to the Lions at home. They will be a good test for our defense. Offensively we should be able to move the ball on them. As for this week just get to 6-2 and the Bills should win this game as they are the better team. Beating Arizona on the road would be a nice victory. I don't think they are a great team, however the way the schedule falls (and prior to the bye week) it is a litmus test. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. K Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 Ill be out on the farm making some fresh squeezed process juice today if you need a pick me up. Get the division win. Get a win against the Pats for the first time McDermott. Shake their coaches hand and move on to next week. 6-2 is the goal this week. The division and the playoffs are the goal after that. "Anything is possible" -Kevin Garnett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 It’s 2020 Bills vs 2020 Pats. A win here is big in terms of division leadership. That is all it is and all it needs to be. No need to be defeated by ghosts from the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 So this wont be a signature win?😩 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessTruster Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 home divisional game. SBs rarely won by team that does not win its division. divisional W/L record is a big deal in doing so. conference W/L record matters as well, (i think?) wether its Jets, Phins, Pats, that makes it big. go win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 2 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said: You were miserable when Brady left? This guy beats us miserably for two decades and it would have made you feel better by beating him this year? So he goes from like 34-2 against us and if we were to beat him 2020....somehow makes up for it? I agree wholeheartedly. It’s over. The Cheats owned us with Brady. They pretty much owned everybody (except Eli Manning somehow). But it’s over. Time to move on. The goal is a division win and 6-2 against a team we should beat. That’s all it is on Sunday. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uticaclub Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 Have you watched a game Belichick coaches vs a game McDermott coaches? This might be our biggest game since Super Bowl 28. If this Buffalo team can't beat that New England team, they never will and we seriously must consider blowing up the McBeane era if our goal is a championship. That and if we don't win this game, we might not win another all year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, StHustle said: That era is over. Wishful thinking till we tamp the dirt down. Agreed it's not monumental, but it's absolutely still very very big. This is far more than another division game. Far more. And like it or not, saying "when we win" is kidding yourself. It's "if we win." Put up a couple of wins against the Pats and then and only then will playing them be just another game. Edited October 29, 2020 by Thurman#1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramza86 Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 Sweeping the division and locking it up is the most important thing we can do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, StHustle said: Why shouldn't this game be considered bigger than if we were facing any other 2-4 division opponent? BECAUSE BRADY IS GONE!! DUH!!!! It was a miserable day for me when he officially left the Pats. I sat back shaking my head watching other fans celebrate his departure. Celebrate? Celebrate what? I felt like a loser. I knew it was over. Our chances had dried up. We failed. We let Brady go almost two whole decades owning us. And even when he got into his 40's he still owned us. They swept us countless seasons with him at the helm. I remember thinking last preseason that he would regress a little and maybe we would FINALLY sweep them. Then later thinking how it still would suck because it took for Brady to be 42 for us to finally pull it off. Sweeping him that year wouldn't fix shish. Then the season plays out and what happens? With one last shot at preventing the long ash career sweep shutout, we allow Brady to land a final KO punch, and HE SWEEPS US!! What an ending. We failed guys. Let's face it, lick our wounds and reset. Oh, and don't try to make this about Belichick. Beating the Pats with Cam at QB is NOWHERE NEAR THE SAME THING AS BEATING THEM WITH BRADY. To me there's an exponential difference if its not The Pair. Many of you seem to be approaching this game with that exact same frame of mind as years past. That baffles me. That slay the dragon mentality, when in reality, there is no longer a dragon around to slay. Our chances to do that have come and gone. All that's left is a permanent stain on our record that will inevitably be mentioned time and time again in the future, because Brady, being the GOAT, will be talked about forever. His dominance on his division will be talked about forever. Not as much, BUT, his dominance against one team in particular will be talked about forever. WHY? Because he has the most wins of any QB against one team in NFL history. Just a random notch on Tom Brady's belt. It's universally agreed (which is not an easy feat in the sports world) that Tom is the best QB of all time, and Bill is the best head coach of all time. So our only consolation prize is that we can feel a little less bad about it all since it was the GOATs who handed us the most embarrassing 20 year record between division "rivals" in league history. They weren't some random HC-QB pair who shined for an era. NOPE! ALL TIME GOATS! Unfortunately they landed in the AFC East and we took the brunt of it. They would have done this same thing to some other team if they landed in a different division as a pair (we'd like to think anyway). It damn near makes me physically sick typing this post right now. I never expressed my feelings on this matter neither verbally nor through writing. The feeling is terrible but is mitigated by my belief in the not so distant future for this team. So like I said, let's reset and realize this is nothing more than a home division game that we should win. I think most the players know this and don't have that imaginary psychological hurdle to get over. And lastly, YES! When we win, it WILL feel better than beating the Jets or the Phins. Just seeing the final scoreboard with a larger number next to the Bills logo than what's next to the Pats logo, HELL YEAH! That's just a natural human reaction for people who spent the number of years we have dominated by one team. Wins against them will fill better than other division wins for years to come. Im sure some players will feel that way for at least the next few matches, as will some coaches. Especially McD, who has never beat either of the GOATs. But at the end of the day, when your over the top emotions wear off, just understand a win over the Pats Sunday means nothing more than keeping them in 3rd place and taking a step toward winning a tiebreaker if it comes to that. It wouldn't be some legendary victory or signature win like many are painting it to be. That era is over. You've typed so much, yet said nothing 😂 Edited October 29, 2020 by Dablitzkrieg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 50 minutes ago, RobbRiddick said: It's still important for McD to show he can outsmart Belichick, IMO It's probably more an issue to show that Belichick cannot outsmart McD with far less talent. If he does, it will be a horrible Sunday. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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