CSBill Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 1 hour ago, eball said: Sometimes the best thing to do when you feel like you want to start a thread is to put the phone/keyboard down and go take a five minute break. The feeling will pass. Wisdom from a TBD sage. Oh, how many I've started and then deleted. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doubledd67 Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 Who is this clown must be a Patriots fan if youre not a true 100% Buffalo Bills Fans please take your trash talking BS about my Bills to another website you miserable clown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 1 hour ago, RobbRiddick said: But you must remember Jim Kelly struggling to throw the ball in the cold vs the Raiders The game vs Arizona Cardinals in ‘90 was the worst wind game ever. Team benches were blowing onto the field as a monster winter storm blew in. Kelly shredded them. Steve Tasker caught his 1st ever TD Pass. Took 5 hours to reach Dansville that night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artmalibu Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 The MVP talk 3 games in is crazy!!! Less than 25% of the seasons games have been played!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 6 hours ago, Kingston Bills Fan said: Once we start getting the high winds and snow he won’t be able to keep up these numbers, or keep up with QB’s that play in domes or in warmer weather. Like most years the weather in Buffalo will most likely be so bad that 200 yards passing will be a feat. I’m not saying he won’t be the best QB in those games but overall numbers will be what matters. And believe me I’m a huge Josh Allen fan. Just saying until we get a new stadium the second half of the seasons will be low pass yard games. Not that the MVP is what matters a Super Bowl is what we want. But there so much argument in the media about MVP and I just think it’s unattainable for Josh in our facilities. There was high winds on Sunday... what a terrible game that ended his mvp talk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 I think we might have had 5 or so bad weather games in the last 10 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwai San Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 7 hours ago, Kingston Bills Fan said: It is well known that even if it’s not snowing or terrible weather the wind plays a huge factor in Buffalo home games making it much harder to be accurate. Which is why they wanted Allen in the first place. The sports media wants to sell this narrative. I present the 51-3 drubbing of the Raiders in the AFCCG as exhibit number 1. Extreme rare conditions lead to that Colts game a few years ago when there is 10 inches of snow on the field. EXTREME RARE. It is an outdoor game, has been and always should be. Indoors is for sissys......go on ahead and identify with that but I like the sport they way is has been - outdoors. Eff a dome..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 Over 1,000 yds passing in 3 games, 1/3 of his 2019 total. 10 TD passes in 3 games, almost half of his 2019 total. Shouldn't even have a pick on his resume. Beat a REALLY good Rams team this past weekend pulling out the Captain Clutch cape again, after people incessantly whine how we can't beat winning teams. But still, even still, the closet Nancy's are lurking. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 (edited) I was too young to really comprehend Kelly, but I’ve seen plenty of highlights of him lighting up defenses in home playoff games. Mahomes and Rodgers play in “awful conditions” second halves of every year as well. I’m pretty sure the Colts game is one of the only snow games I’ve seen us play in my adult life. That seems to be more of an anomaly than anything normal. It was reportedly windy on Sunday, enough so that announcers and are pregame analysts were talking about it affecting the kicking game. Allen threw for 300+ and 4 TD’s. For the record, I’m firmly in the “build some variation of a dome” camp, but I’ve seen QBs light it up in cold, windy, snowy weather way too much to be overly worried about this with Allen. Edited September 29, 2020 by SCBills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XXI~PsychedelicBillsfan~ Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 7 hours ago, Kingston Bills Fan said: Once we start getting the high winds and snow he won’t be able to keep up these numbers, or keep up with QB’s that play in domes or in warmer weather. Like most years the weather in Buffalo will most likely be so bad that 200 yards passing will be a feat. I’m not saying he won’t be the best QB in those games but overall numbers will be what matters. And believe me I’m a huge Josh Allen fan. Just saying until we get a new stadium the second half of the seasons will be low pass yard games. Not that the MVP is what matters a Super Bowl is what we want. Not that the MVP is what matters a Super Bowl is what we want. But there so much argument in the media about MVP and I just think it’s unattainable for Josh in our facilities. let me know when you have your next party, you seem like you could be a lot of fun, man. as for mvp, I have no problem with him not getting it, there are at this point better candidates such as wilson or mahomes and even rogers. I don't really care about mvp all I want is for JA to continue improving and leading the team to victory. which, given the present facilities, I believe will continue? Quote But there so much argument in the media about MVP and I just think it’s unattainable for Josh in our facilities. this right here, is pure crazy talk, man. party on! 7 hours ago, Kingston Bills Fan said: I agree but there is so much talk about Josh being a mvp candidate so far, and I just think it’s unattainable without a new stadium. I hope I’m wrong you are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Chandler's Hands Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 7 hours ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: When the Bills beat the Raiders 51-3 in the ‘91 AFC championship...the final score was misleading. Save for a few FB screens, it was 99% Thurman up the gut. Plus a defensive score. Although Kelly did throw for 300 as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 1 hour ago, Chandler#81 said: The game vs Arizona Cardinals in ‘90 was the worst wind game ever. Team benches were blowing onto the field as a monster winter storm blew in. Kelly shredded them. Steve Tasker caught his 1st ever TD Pass. Took 5 hours to reach Dansville that night. I believe they scored over 40 that game as well 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 (edited) 8 hours ago, Kingston Bills Fan said: Once we start getting the high winds and snow he won’t be able to keep up these numbers, or keep up with QB’s that play in domes or in warmer weather. Like most years the weather in Buffalo will most likely be so bad that 200 yards passing will be a feat. I’m not saying he won’t be the best QB in those games but overall numbers will be what matters. And believe me I’m a huge Josh Allen fan. Just saying until we get a new stadium the second half of the seasons will be low pass yard games. Not that the MVP is what matters a Super Bowl is what we want. But there so much argument in the media about MVP and I just think it’s unattainable for Josh in our facilities. Which QBs in the mvp discussion play in domes or warm weather? Not mahomes, not Russ, not Lamar, not Rodgers, not Ben (yes I said Ben, he looks really good and so do the Steelers), not Cam (yes I said Cam, don’t shoot the messenger) Edited September 29, 2020 by YoloinOhio 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 6 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Which QBs in the mvp discussion play in domes or warm weather? Not mahomes, not Russ, not Lamar, not Rodgers, not Ben (yes I said Ben, he looks really good and so do the Steelers), not Cam (yes I said Cam, don’t shoot the messenger) And we have head to head matchups this year against where Josh is up against Wilson, Mahomes, Cam twice, and Ben Ro. Our schedule is not for the faint of heart and Josh will be on the big stage many times this year with the chance to show everyone what we have seen through the first 3 weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigPappy Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 (edited) 8 hours ago, Kingston Bills Fan said: Once we start getting the high winds and snow he won’t be able to keep up these numbers, or keep up with QB’s that play in domes or in warmer weather. Like most years the weather in Buffalo will most likely be so bad that 200 yards passing will be a feat. I’m not saying he won’t be the best QB in those games but overall numbers will be what matters. And believe me I’m a huge Josh Allen fan. Just saying until we get a new stadium the second half of the seasons will be low pass yard games. Not that the MVP is what matters a Super Bowl is what we want. But there so much argument in the media about MVP and I just think it’s unattainable for Josh in our facilities. You don't have a clue what you are talking about. Even if you were partially right, you're still 100% wrong because JA has a bazooka for a right arm and the wind will only be a small factor when a bazooka fires. That bomb a threw to Davis Sunday was on the run with his body twisted up and basically flicked his wrist and sent it flying at high velocity. 8 hours ago, Stank_Nasty said: This is the most overblown bull crap ever. There is legitimately around 2, sometimes only 1, awful weather games in OC each year. Why do people keep on about this crap? As a general rule, even in the winter, the weather is manageable most of the time. This times 1000% Edited September 29, 2020 by BigPappy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hebert19 Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 I actually think that is where allen strengthens his case as MVP. Weather turns south and he just keeps finding ways to win. MvP isn't just about stats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Red King Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 3 hours ago, Chandler#81 said: The game vs Arizona Cardinals in ‘90 was the worst wind game ever. Team benches were blowing onto the field as a monster winter storm blew in. Kelly shredded them. Steve Tasker caught his 1st ever TD Pass. Took 5 hours to reach Dansville that night. Oh dear god, think I was just talking to someone about that game. Ton of rain, freezing temps. Even with layers and thermal undies I was chilled to the bone. 1 hour ago, Bob Chandler's Hands said: Plus a defensive score. Although Kelly did throw for 300 as well. To be fair, we did leave a point on the field with that missed PAT. 😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 Or maybe it wont? In this instance I believe I can speak for almost everyone else on the board, we are enjoying it. Also, I believe many of us are adults here, we can decide what to enjoy or not enjoy on our own thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billieve420 Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 Doesn't even feel like winter anymore till late January nowadays anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 10 hours ago, Kingston Bills Fan said: Once we start getting the high winds and snow he won’t be able to keep up these numbers, or keep up with QB’s that play in domes or in warmer weather. Like most years the weather in Buffalo will most likely be so bad that 200 yards passing will be a feat. I’m not saying he won’t be the best QB in those games but overall numbers will be what matters. And believe me I’m a huge Josh Allen fan. Just saying until we get a new stadium the second half of the seasons will be low pass yard games. Not that the MVP is what matters a Super Bowl is what we want. But there so much argument in the media about MVP and I just think it’s unattainable for Josh in our facilities. Why not? Allen's arm can cut through the wind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihilarian Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 (edited) 9 hours ago, Ethan in Portland said: Let's hope we get to find out how he handles the weather in mid-January We already know as he did play college ball at Wyoming! Kinda known for nasty cold weather. Ex NY Giants QB Phill Simms stated that there are about 9 NFL QB's who can play in Buffalo in that swirling wind and it gets far worse when the cold gets here. A tight spiral can cut right through a strong wind. But yea, the snow and cold weather is strong reason to have a good power run game too. All this talk of MVP is far, far too early as there are 13 regular season games to play. We'll see how it looks at week 10 or so. Edited September 29, 2020 by Nihilarian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 The reality is the winds affect the QB's 1-3 games per year......I dont care if he wins the MVP, I just want the team to win....the weather can have some affect but not that big. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 13 hours ago, Kingston Bills Fan said: Once we start getting the high winds and snow he won’t be able to keep up these numbers, or keep up with QB’s that play in domes or in warmer weather. Like most years the weather in Buffalo will most likely be so bad that 200 yards passing will be a feat. I’m not saying he won’t be the best QB in those games but overall numbers will be what matters. And believe me I’m a huge Josh Allen fan. Just saying until we get a new stadium the second half of the seasons will be low pass yard games. Not that the MVP is what matters a Super Bowl is what we want. But there so much argument in the media about MVP and I just think it’s unattainable for Josh in our facilities. I think you are mistaking weather for the fact that bad teams often suck even more by the end of the season 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 13 hours ago, Kingston Bills Fan said: Once we start getting the high winds and snow he won’t be able to keep up these numbers, or keep up with QB’s that play in domes or in warmer weather. Like most years the weather in Buffalo will most likely be so bad that 200 yards passing will be a feat. I’m not saying he won’t be the best QB in those games but overall numbers will be what matters. And believe me I’m a huge Josh Allen fan. Just saying until we get a new stadium the second half of the seasons will be low pass yard games. Not that the MVP is what matters a Super Bowl is what we want. But there so much argument in the media about MVP and I just think it’s unattainable for Josh in our facilities. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 I don't feel like there are usually a ton of games where the weather is a huge factor, even in Buffalo. You may get a game or two each year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 We shall see, I hope that Josh numbers deflate somewhat due to the team running the ball more and sitting on leads with a strong defense. But I think in the short term Josh will have the gaudy stats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 13 hours ago, Kingston Bills Fan said: It is well known that even if it’s not snowing or terrible weather the wind plays a huge factor in Buffalo home games making it much harder to be accurate. Which is why they wanted Allen in the first place. Contrary to popular opinion from some people from outside the region, WNY doesn't turn into an Arctic wasteland come November 1. As Stank_Nasty said, there's usually only 1 or 2 really bad weather homes games over the years, and those are mostly due to wind. More importantly, WNY isn't the only place that's windy (see Chicago, Green Bay, Kansas City, NE, New Jersey, Philadelphia). Cold and snow aren't any worse than heat and rain. Excessive bad weather can affect any team that plays games outdoors, which includes teams that play in domes. MVPs like Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady, Patrick Mahomes, and Lamar Jackson all play their home games outdoors in stadiums located where inclement weather frequently occurs during the NFL season. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codyny13 Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 These threads lately are atrocious. Rarely worthy of even submitting a thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPicc2114 Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 lol bad weather actually makes it easier for the QB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 "all the MVP" will be over? Let me ask the OP....."what school you go?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnNord Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 16 hours ago, Kingston Bills Fan said: Once we start getting the high winds and snow he won’t be able to keep up these numbers, or keep up with QB’s that play in domes or in warmer weather. Like most years the weather in Buffalo will most likely be so bad that 200 yards passing will be a feat. I’m not saying he won’t be the best QB in those games but overall numbers will be what matters. And believe me I’m a huge Josh Allen fan. Just saying until we get a new stadium the second half of the seasons will be low pass yard games. Not that the MVP is what matters a Super Bowl is what we want. But there so much argument in the media about MVP and I just think it’s unattainable for Josh in our facilities. weather in Buffalo has and always will be highly overrated 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lfod Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 I'm enjoying the MVP talk and I am enjoying the 3-0 record so far. I've stayed a fan through many bad seasons and some people have been fans for a lot longer. Some fans didn't get to live long enough to enjoy what is going on now. I think a post like this probably isn't the best to make when so many fans have been waiting a long time for a Bills QB to even be in MVP talks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dat Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 9 hours ago, Chandler#81 said: The game vs Arizona Cardinals in ‘90 was the worst wind game ever. Team benches were blowing onto the field as a monster winter storm blew in. Kelly shredded them. Steve Tasker caught his 1st ever TD Pass. Took 5 hours to reach Dansville that night. I was at that game, i remember AZ punting and it got caught in the wind and ended up behind the punter. Worst weather ever, rain, sleet, hail etc all with wicked wind, totally sucked and yes the drive home was terrible especially soaked. A few weeks later i was able to be in a suite during good weather thinking about how bad my luck was not having them reversed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 Just now, Dat said: I was at that game, i remember AZ punting and it got caught in the wind and ended up behind the punter. Worst weather ever, rain, sleet, hail etc all with wicked wind, totally sucked and yes the drive home was terrible especially soaked. A few weeks later i was able to be in a suite during good weather thinking about how bad my luck was not having them reversed. My son and I had to push the car up a couple of those hills on 20A. We made it though.. 18 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: "all the MVP" will be over? Let me ask the OP....."what school you go?" Rather presumptuous, aren’t you? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 19 hours ago, arcane said: I wasn't alive to watch the SB teams, but I've seen plenty of highlights of Kelly dropping dimes left and right on teams in all kinds of Buffalo weather. I recall one game think it was against Arizona where the wind was like 30 to 40 MPH, final score was real low, seem to recall Kenny Davis scoring the winning TD or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 17 hours ago, Buffalo716 said: Have you ever been to orchard Park? It's not the snow that effects quarterbacks in Buffalo. There's like two snow games a year It's the wind. And Josh has already shown he could sling it through a windstorm crappy weather in Green Bay hasn't stopped Aaron Rodgers from slinging it all over the yard for a decade plus I'm "concerned" he is playing in a dome next week and might not remember how to throw without the wind. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBean Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 This has to be a joke thread right ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 Thanks for the warning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 Boston is the windiest big city in the country according to several sources (some smaller towns in the Great Plains states are worse.) Sure did mess up Brady all those years didn't it? I went to almost all the home games from 07-last year - I can't really count too many with horrible conditions. The late season games, for the most part, are just cold. 3 minutes ago, McBean said: This has to be a joke thread right ? If only... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 3 hours ago, Chandler#81 said: My son and I had to push the car up a couple of those hills on 20A. We made it though.. Rather presumptuous, aren’t you? I haven’t lived there in a long time, but my favorite aunt and uncle and cousins who were my best friend lived up the Davis hill road past the Tennis Court bubble. Man that was fun pushing my cousins car up that abomination. It might as well have been Mount Everest in an Ice ridden hill, with a 1975 Chevy Impala, but it was a free car for him coming back from wrestling practice at St. Francis. Sunday, I was talking to a transplant like myself about pogieing, and he said I haven’t heard that in 25 years. I told him it sucked when you’re snow glove gets caught in the back metal bumper. Good times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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