Penfield45 Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 (edited) no more excuses for this guy. It's time to show you can run a top 10 NFL offense. We are tired of our offense lagging so far behind the defense, last season I lost count on how many games our defense won while the offense struggled to score a measly 14 points. Terrible gameplans and head scratching play calling all season long. Daboll was constantly putting Allen under immense pressure with his calls, especially in the playoff game. We barely used Singletary to our advantage, hopefully that changes this season. So far in his career Daboll has shown no evidence he can lead a high powered offense in the NFL, that needs to change. Edited September 12, 2020 by Penfield45 13 1 2 1 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 Wow the outrage is starting early. 18 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 (edited) I don’t think they break out the heated benches until November Edited September 12, 2020 by Over 29 years of fanhood 16 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 There is a lot of pressure on Daboll. And on Josh Allen. I think the Bills have to be around the middle of the league in terms of ranking and they have to be able to engineer drives when we need them. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinii Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 Stay tuned things are already heating up. We should know pretty soon if Daboll was riding on some impressive coattails or actually deserved to be there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brennan Huff Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 The first running play for negative yardage I’m making a thread and calling for his head 2 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 Brian Daboll...AKA "The Scapegoat" There will be calls to fire him at halftime. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penfield45 Posted September 12, 2020 Author Share Posted September 12, 2020 6 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: There is a lot of pressure on Daboll. And on Josh Allen. I think the Bills have to be around the middle of the league in terms of ranking and they have to be able to engineer drives when we need them. middle of the league? lol we are bottom of the barrel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 I just told my friend this last night. A win is a win but I'm gonna be disappointed if we beat the Jets of all teams 17-6 or something like that. I wanna see some points. No reason why we shouldn't have an offensive field day against this team 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 16 minutes ago, Penfield45 said: no more excuses for this guy. It's time to show you can run a top 10 NFL offense. We are tired of our offense lagging so far behind the defense, last season I lost count on how many games our defense won while the offense struggled to score a measly 14 points. Terrible gameplans and head scratching play calling all season long. Daboll was constantly putting Allen under immense pressure with his calls, especially in the playoff game. We barely used Singletary to our advantage, hopefully that changes this season. So far in his career Daboll has shown no evidence he can lead a high powered offense in the NFL, that needs to change. They scored 14 or less 4 times including week 17 in a meaningless game. While I agree Daboll is far from proven, the QB is responsible for a lot of success or lack of success of any offense. Your post seems to indicate all the problems are resulting from the OC which is far from reality. 2 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorin' Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 There are areas that Daboll absolutely has to improve. The first that comes to mind is 4min offense. He seemed like he was always late getting the play in and indecisive on the final drive before halftime. I want to see better and more consistent game/clock management. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 17 minutes ago, Penfield45 said: middle of the league? lol we are bottom of the barrel They need to be at least middle of the league is my point. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 Great, now I have to hunt through the shed for my pitchfork. Warn me next time we are going to start early 2 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 19 minutes ago, mattynh said: Brian Daboll...AKA "The Scapegoat" There will be calls to fire him at halftime. He 100% will be the fan scapegoat. He massively was last season. I am all for blaming him for things that are his fault. But he got blamed for a lot that wasn't too. 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 (edited) Agree about Daboll...but we might as well put Allen in that boat too...if he continues to show an inability to do things that rookie QBs are doing, there should be some serious questions raised moving forward... Edited September 12, 2020 by JaCrispy 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, Virgil said: Great, now I have to hunt through the shed for my pitchfork. Warn me next time we are going to start early There's no excuses, you have had plenty of time to have it dug out by now and at the ready....... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IgotBILLStopay Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 The fortunes of Daboll and Allen are intertwined. Each will go as far as the other takes him. So far, that partnership is trending in the right direction. That being said, i do concur with the notion that this year will be make or break for the partnership as well as for each partner individually. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 Daboll in the booth! Daboll in the booth! DABOLL IN THE BOOTH! * Wouldn't it be interesting to hear that as canned crowd noise? 😁 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 40 minutes ago, Penfield45 said: no more excuses for this guy. It's time to show you can run a top 10 NFL offense. We are tired of our offense lagging so far behind the defense, last season I lost count on how many games our defense won while the offense struggled to score a measly 14 points. Terrible gameplans and head scratching play calling all season long. Daboll was constantly putting Allen under immense pressure with his calls, especially in the playoff game. We barely used Singletary to our advantage, hopefully that changes this season. So far in his career Daboll has shown no evidence he can lead a high powered offense in the NFL, that needs to change. He may be on your personal hot seat, but, sorry, you don't matter. At this point I think the Bills are pretty confident that the offense is going to be more productive than last year, probably significantly. Sean McDermott obviously wants an uptick in production, and eventually a disappointing output from the offense would force his hand on making a change, but it would take a while as the whole organization seems to value stability too. They will have to be sure Daboll is not the answer before they cut bait. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 43 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: Wow the outrage is starting early. He’s right though.. no excuses.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DabillsDaBillsDaBills Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 I have a tough time looking at his history as OC and seeing anything other than a well below average OC. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/coaches/DaboBr0.htm 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comebackkid Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 19 minutes ago, Virgil said: Great, now I have to hunt through the shed for my pitchfork. Warn me next time we are going to start early Weren't you a boy scout? You know, always be prepared.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiltonWaddams Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 When you give the offensive coordinator full control of that side of the ball and it doesn’t live up to expectations, you have to imagine the guy will be on the hot seat faster than most. With the arsenal that is at the Bills disposal, and the continuity on that side of the ball, playcalling is going to be as important as ever. Daboll is going to have to be much more innovative and effective than we’ve seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 9 minutes ago, TigerJ said: He may be on your personal hot seat, but, sorry, you don't matter. At this point I think the Bills are pretty confident that the offense is going to be more productive than last year, probably significantly. Sean McDermott obviously wants an uptick in production, and eventually a disappointing output from the offense would force his hand on making a change, but it would take a while as the whole organization seems to value stability too. They will have to be sure Daboll is not the answer before they cut bait. A rational response to an irrational topic. The team would have to fully schitt the bed before McDermott would introduce a new offiensive coordinator to a team (and sport) that thrives on consistency. That's not to say there aren't areas that require improvement. Simply not having Frank Gore in on every 3rd and short is addition by subtraction. I'd like to see them more aggressive when the opportunity presents itself with time on the clock before the half and a timeout or two in their pocket. My sense is adding Diggs and Moss will automatically make them more aggressive overall. But hey...nothing like a panic post to get the weekend started. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 He has the year to prove it, unless the offense is just so bad he gets fired mid season. I have an open mind. Haven't cast judgement on him yet. I could see him being good or being bad. Let's hope he is good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 Watch the games. Daboll got guys open and Josh missed them. The only person this season depends on is Allen. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 I hear he's planning on running Singletary till he pukes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 12 minutes ago, Comebackkid said: Weren't you a boy scout? You know, always be prepared.... Everyone knows the proper procedure to starting a season are 1. Get out pitchforks and polish them in preparation for running the scapegoat out of town (if you are not a pitchfork carrier make sure your torch is clean and you have plenty of matches and starter fluid) 2. Pick up your shirt/jersey off the floor under your couch where it ended up after the last game 3. Retrieve your Hat and dust it off from behind the TV where it ended up after you through it at the end of the last game while screaming how your done with this team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Penfield45 said: no more excuses for this guy. It's time to show you can run a top 10 NFL offense. We are tired of our offense lagging so far behind the defense, last season I lost count on how many games our defense won while the offense struggled to score a measly 14 points. Terrible gameplans and head scratching play calling all season long. Daboll was constantly putting Allen under immense pressure with his calls, especially in the playoff game. We barely used Singletary to our advantage, hopefully that changes this season. So far in his career Daboll has shown no evidence he can lead a high powered offense in the NFL, that needs to change. Another garbage post. Hot, stinking garbage. 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 Daboll wasn’t bad imo. Josh needs to show that he’s the man. OCs don’t execute the plays or sign Frank Gore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
947 Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 I think it's just as much about McD sitting on 8-point leads than Daboll calling the plays. If we can still be be aggressive with a lead on offense instead of making every game close, we'll take the next step. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Brennan Huff said: The first running play for negative yardage I’m making a thread and calling for his head yea, well the firs t pass play for positive yardage, I'M making a thread calling for his head Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maynard Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 1 minute ago, 947 said: I think it's just as much about McD sitting on 8-point leads than Daboll calling the plays. If we can still be be aggressive with a lead on offense instead of making every game close, we'll take the next step. I agree we just need to be more aggressive. We started the Houston playoff game that way for example, but then took foot off the gas once we had a good lead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 The pressure is on Josh just as much as Daboll. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnNord Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 1 hour ago, GunnerBill said: There is a lot of pressure on Daboll. And on Josh Allen. I think the Bills have to be around the middle of the league in terms of ranking and they have to be able to engineer drives when we need them. BINGO! Fans love to criticize Daboll but give Allen a free pass. Both have been in Buffalo for 3 seasons, have been given some degree of freedom/autonomy, and have provided with some excellent offensive weapons. I don’t see how you can’t lump them together in terms of offensive success. If the offense is good or bad it will attributed to both of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: They actually didn’t. They took the complete opposite approach with that 16 point lead. Allen became erratic, turned the ball over, offensive line break downs and the game became a mess offensively. Let's give the defensive coaching their due here. Includng McD Houston, 3rd down and eighteen and the derensive play call was pure Pop Warner coaching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Penfield45 said: no more excuses for this guy. It's time to show you can run a top 10 NFL offense. We are tired of our offense lagging so far behind the defense, last season I lost count on how many games our defense won while the offense struggled to score a measly 14 points. Terrible gameplans and head scratching play calling all season long. Daboll was constantly putting Allen under immense pressure with his calls, especially in the playoff game. We barely used Singletary to our advantage, hopefully that changes this season. So far in his career Daboll has shown no evidence he can lead a high powered offense in the NFL, that needs to change. Why in the world would you put Daboll on the hot seat before Josh Allen? Who do you think has more impact on wins and losses in this league? The OCs of the league or the QBs? 1 hour ago, GunnerBill said: There is a lot of pressure on Daboll. And on Josh Allen. I think the Bills have to be around the middle of the league in terms of ranking and they have to be able to engineer drives when we need them. Why is the "middle of the league" an acceptable goal? This is McD's 4th year; Josh's year to shine and prove he's the man; we have a lot of stability, almost complete roster turnover to Beane and McD's satisfaction. They've loaded up the offense with weapons, at least by traditional Bills standards. Stop with the excuses. Do you ever want to see the Bills in a Super Bowl again before you die? I do! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: I don’t think they break out the heated benches until November I was thinking the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 No he's not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 30 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said: Watch the games. Daboll got guys open and Josh missed them. The only person this season depends on is Allen. But Josh is the 7th overall pick.. plenty of talent and potential for a competent OC to groom.. a big part of Daboll’s job is the development of Josh Allen.. Daboll will go before Josh does.... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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