John from Riverside Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 3 hours ago, MAJBobby said: it’s the way Allen being coached and the way Defenses are currently playing Allen. defenses are playing to make Allen complete passes in areas he struggled last year and sustain the drives. Eventually Teams will allow the shots. Now when that happens Allen cannot miss the WR by 5 yards like he has been so far this season on those shots The WR he is namely missing those shots with is Zay Jones I just dont think they have a chemistry with that pass.....I dont know what it is...we know he can throw it because he was throwing it to Robert Foster last year. Speaking of which....Robert Foster needs to play.....Zay Jones needs to sit or be traded. I always like the thought of another draft pick in Beans hands because he knows what to do with them. Duke WIlliams should be a red zone target specialist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 Hey, is Jordan Reed available/healthy? Lee Smith is a great interview though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 18 minutes ago, the skycap said: I think they can survive with Nsekhe, but like you said another threat opposite John Brown puts this offense over the top. John Brown is playing great football though. They need to be able to stretch the field. A Julio Jones type receiver. Hell, get me a poor mans Julio and we're good. Don't waste this defense. Nsekhe can't physically handle a full season. (His knee) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 36 minutes ago, Tcali said: he has a good arm but have never seen him throw farther than 60 yds--which a good high schooler can do. OK but look at the zip his passes have on the last 5 yards of a deep through. Often this is a better indication of arm strength than pure distance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 True TOP WR talent. Guys who can get open, make plays, and who are hungry for the ball. I think the playcalling has been decent. Allen isnt perfect but coming along. But he doesnt have a guy he can trust to make a play on a deep ball downfield. AJ Green MADE Daltons career because when in doubt, Dalton puts it up. Same with the way Ryan can just put it up to wherever Julio is. Allen tried that with Zay in the Pats game and it backfired on him every time. To the point that Zay wouldnt even play DB and break up the INT. And that is why Zay only got 1 snap yesterday. 34 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: The WR he is namely missing those shots with is Zay Jones I just dont think they have a chemistry with that pass.....I dont know what it is...we know he can throw it because he was throwing it to Robert Foster last year. Speaking of which....Robert Foster needs to play.....Zay Jones needs to sit or be traded. I always like the thought of another draft pick in Beans hands because he knows what to do with them. Duke WIlliams should be a red zone target specialist. See above. Zay is soft and doesnt battle for the ball. If it isnt perfect he just gives up. He stood and watched a Pat make the INT right in front of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26TrapDraw Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 3 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said: >An answer at right tackle. >Singletary. >One more WR threat. Yep and I'll add Allen needs to be smart with the football. Throw it away when needed and go through progression much quicker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bdutton Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 3 hours ago, Dkollidas said: I think a true #1 WR is the main thing missing. Getting Singeltary back will change the offense up a bit as well. Duke Williams looks like an improvement over Zay though, which gives us another decent option. Main thing is Josh cutting down on errors and reckless plays. Yes he had the interception. But other than that play... 2 TD passes, no fumbles, no head first dives into traffic when running. He also tucked the ball a lot better when he was running. Not pulling that Shady move where he’s out there with it just in his hand waving around. We will have a relatively low draft pick next season (I hope) so I think we could snag one of the best available WR's in the draft ala OBJ. That could be the ticket to having a true number one WR. Another option is signing one of the best FA wr's next season: https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2826694-an-early-look-at-the-2020-nfl-free-agent-class#slide3 1. Michael Thomas, New Orleans Saints 2. Tyreek Hill, Kansas City Chiefs 3. Amari Cooper, Dallas Cowboys 4. A.J. Green, Cincinnati Bengals 5. Robby Anderson, New York Jets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 4 hours ago, MAJBobby said: these last two weeks we did see the exact same defense. Vrabel coaches the defense in Tenn the same way BB did. the shots have been there. Over these first 5 weeks just when Josh has taken them he missed He's 0-8 on deep balls. Most of those plays the receiver was open. He's gotta put more trajectory on his deep throws and even if its slightly underthrown your wr still has a 50/50 ball. More arc Josh, drop it in the basket. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 Kenny Golladay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seven-N-Nine Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 1) More consistent QB play 2) Better play calling 3) Contested catch WR (Maybe Duke Williams) 4) Playmaker RB (A healthy Singletary) 5) Better RT situation 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 Missing a dynamic Running Game Catching the ball out of the back field --- We are not able to move the chains with this play after Week 1. And of course the WRs getting separation 7 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: He's 0-8 on deep balls. Most of those plays the receiver was open. He's gotta put more trajectory on his deep throws and even if its slightly underthrown your wr still has a 50/50 ball. More arc Josh, drop it in the basket. ? many of those were thrown off the back foot without setting his feet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 4 hours ago, MAJBobby said: it’s the way Allen being coached and the way Defenses are currently playing Allen. defenses are playing to make Allen complete passes in areas he struggled last year and sustain the drives. Eventually Teams will allow the shots. Now when that happens Allen cannot miss the WR by 5 yards like he has been so far this season on those shots This is where I am too. The biggest issue right now is his inconsistency. The Bills have had a lot of long drives (75+), and they have been very good at cashing in once in the RZ. The issue has been the TOs and the misses on the deep opportunities. That said, I think Singletary and Foster will provide more big plays when they return, and Duke gives them a sure-handed big target. It's also relatively early in the season, and I still expect them to get better and better as Josh gets better and better. The Pass D rankings of their next three HOME opponents are 31, 27, and 23, so I expect we'll see their stats on O improve. If they do make a trade, I hope it doesn't cost more than one of their 5 5th and 6th rounders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 3 hours ago, Bill from NYC said: Josh is still much lacking in experience. What he DOES have is an absolute cannon for an arm. That said, he does not have a legit deep threat which would certainly loosen up opposing defenses, and in that sense even help the ground game. The Bills are very close to being a complete, balanced football team. Josh is gaining experience and when he gets a deep threat, anything is possible. Not so sure. We have 1 loss. How many would we have if we kept McCoy? None, or more than 1? Josh also needs to recognize where that blitzer is coming from and make teams pay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFlutie Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 2 hours ago, Logic said: You planning on jumping through any flaming tables or nah? Any? ALL. You won't have time to fold them up before I rain down upon them in drunken fury. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dkollidas Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 (edited) 19 hours ago, bdutton said: We will have a relatively low draft pick next season (I hope) so I think we could snag one of the best available WR's in the draft ala OBJ. That could be the ticket to having a true number one WR. Another option is signing one of the best FA wr's next season: https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2826694-an-early-look-at-the-2020-nfl-free-agent-class#slide3 1. Michael Thomas, New Orleans Saints 2. Tyreek Hill, Kansas City Chiefs 3. Amari Cooper, Dallas Cowboys 4. A.J. Green, Cincinnati Bengals 5. Robby Anderson, New York Jets Thomas And Hill have both re-signed with their teams (although I wouldn’t want Hill personally). Green I would attempt to trade for now. If they can get him, then you try to re-sign him for a big money, shorter term deal. but I think the main option is this loaded receiver class. Edited October 8, 2019 by Dkollidas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 A WR who can consistently win 1 on 1 and dictate coverage to open more opportunities for Brown / Beasley / Knox & co. Absent that, a true game breaker at RB. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCbillsfan Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 On 10/7/2019 at 9:32 AM, Don Otreply said: I think that having Duke out there as an actual receiving threat will help open up opportunities for Brown in the deep throw game, that alone could loosen up coverages on the opposing Ds enough to prompt bigger chunk pass plays, and more scoring. Dukes being on the field and needing to be accounted for in a bigger way than ZJ was, will also help Beasley’s game a lot. Go Bills!!! This. Having a 3rd WR who is a legit threat to catch the ball should help loosen things up. Also getting Singletary back would add a speed dimension that is lacking in run game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Chuck Wagon said: A WR who can consistently win 1 on 1 and dictate coverage to open more opportunities for Brown / Beasley / Knox & co. Absent that, a true game breaker at RB. I don't think this can be overstated, this offense looks more wide open and much tougher to defend when this is the case. This team could be really tough on offense with this type of receiver. Edited October 8, 2019 by D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 Josh isn't working through his progressions quickly enough to see open receivers and is too quick to look for the Beasley dump off IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figster Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 On 10/7/2019 at 9:40 AM, Hebert19 said: Deep shots. That's it. A J Green to catch them might help... ...I'm just saying... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 3 hours ago, ndirish1978 said: Josh isn't working through his progressions quickly enough to see open receivers and is too quick to look for the Beasley dump off IMO. That's how NFL offenses work. No one is getting to 3 or 4 reads. Plays are designed to go to one guy, if he's not open there's a safety valve or you bail out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSarcasm Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 On 10/7/2019 at 11:32 AM, the skycap said: I think they can survive with Nsekhe, but like you said another threat opposite John Brown puts this offense over the top. John Brown is playing great football though. They need to be able to stretch the field. A Julio Jones type receiver. Hell, get me a poor mans Julio and we're good. Don't waste this defense. Does anyone in the league currently represent this description? You are basically asking for a poor mans caviar. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 Buffalo's offense could use more continuity on the offensive line, and some development time for their QB and TE. The latter is nothing that a little time won't cure. They could also use some speed at RB, but that's a luxury they don't have to have. Mostly Josh Allen just needs to continue growing into the role of starting QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 One score vs the pats. Brown and Beasley to show up in RZ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 All we need is flat out execution without turning the ball over. The Bills demonstrate time and time again all year that we can move the ball on Offense. The turnovers on O are the only thing holding this team back right now IMO. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreggTX Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 (edited) The OL has come a long way, but is a very long way from dominant. I'd like us to be able to dictate to the defense where we can pound the rock and make them stop it. You know. Like other teams used to do to us. We also could use some truly elite talent at the skill positions. It starts with the OL, though. We need a dominant LT and move Dawkins to RT. Edited October 8, 2019 by GreggTX 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehfeuh57 Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 A Right Tackle quicker pass plays need to be drawn up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman Kelly Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 We still need above average QB play and a reliable right OT. We also need a better punter, but that's not so important. Apart from these things, I think we have everything else we need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BananaB Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 Singletary..... Gore just isn’t a threat to anyone. He gets a lot of tough yards but nobody is game planning against him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jletha Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 24 minutes ago, Real McCoy said: All we need is flat out execution without turning the ball over. The Bills demonstrate time and time again all year that we can move the ball on Offense. The turnovers on O are the only thing holding this team back right now IMO. I mostly agree with this. We arent missing a new shiny WR or something although it wouldnt hurt, we just have our drives stalled for various reason, mostly from Josh honestly either taking bad sacks, turnovers or turnover on downs. I also think we lack the big splash play, partly cause Josh is awful at deep balls. Every drive is this methodical 5+ minute drives. Thats hard for offenses to string together. Thats why I like this team. Its not 3-and-out after 3-and-out where I feel like we have no chance at scoring. I think the scores will come, but I would appreciate if they were sooner rather than later. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 On 10/7/2019 at 9:43 AM, PromoTheRobot said: >An answer at right tackle. >Singletary. >One more WR threat. Rounds 1 & 2 next April or 1 via FA Doesn't matter to me but its very doable and that's exciting 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCofNC Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 On 10/7/2019 at 9:42 AM, CaptnCoke11 said: i think a lot of it is the WRs struggling to get open against man to man. Two weeks in a row now they’ve struggled. Announcers pointed it out both weeks now. Yet if you actually look, there are guys running open, Josh is not seeing them or affraid to throw to them. Flat out, the biggest problem right now is NOBODY is scared of our giant armed QB throwing deep. He has not showed the ability to put a deep ball even in catchable range the entire year. He's certainly improved in the short to mid range balls, but his deep accuracy is worse than a Hail Mary percentage and that's absolutely no hyperbole. Right now the game plan is pretty simple, stop the run, cover short, the line won't protect Allen long enough to get his feet set to rip a long ball and even when it has, he's been God awful, so let them have it, play under. Thats a huge simplification of it, but pretty much the recipe. If Josh starts hitting some long shots, the offense becomes really tough to defend, right now, you have to execute, but it can be defended. Look at what the Colts did to KC when they took away the long shots (injuries helped them, no doubt), but without that element, its hard to score a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 On 10/7/2019 at 9:26 AM, Ramza86 said: We can get drives going...but it just looks like we cant get enough big plays down the field. Im not talking about just a streak down the field for 60 yards. Is it lack of separation? Is it lack of play design? I dont think we can use the excuse of there are 2 deep safeties so we can only take what they give. Every other NFL team doesnt seem to have that issue. And no team plays two deep the entire game. What is it and it this fixable? If the offense doesnt shape up those tight ones will not always be winnable. Honestly the only thing I think is missing is time to develop. Josh is not Mahomes and Dabolls not Reid. He played his 16th game Sunday. What are people expecting? Outside of Jackson perhaps he's played better than the others in his class. We all knew he was a ball of clay. Unfortunately the Defense appears to be 2 seasons ahead of the offense. They're ready to contend now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 What the offense is missing is mistake free football. Turnovers and penalties is all that is holding them back. RT play could be better but that can be overcome. Don't shoot yourself in the foot and this team can put up 28 points. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 LeShady. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 Another new Right Tackle even though I think Nseke is decent. Another Wide Receiver, even though if Duke Williams and Foster both perform what they are capable of playing we'd actually be pretty set at WR. Someone who can get after the QB at any of the D Line spots Gore's and Lorenzo Alexander's eventual replacement. Defensively we really are in great shape, this would just be icing on the cake. Talent wise, we aren't that far off, just need for the offense to gel and continue to improve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionallyUnstable Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 Points Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingBoots8 Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 Experience - let them learn and give them time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 (edited) Allen is still not seeing open players but after rewatching most of Sunday ticket all QB are making the same mistakes. We are still missing elite talent at WR,TE and RB. I don’t think there is one player on this offense that would need to be double teamed. We definitely need more talent and a upgrade at both LT and RT. Edited October 8, 2019 by Call_Of_Ktulu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 Experience which will come in time as they play together and learn more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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