NFL Live on ESPN disses Bills D

[Happy]

The Bills defense will need to shut the doubters up.  No more blowouts, red zone inefficiencies, bend but don't break, getting thrashed in the run game, etc.  I hate the Pats as much as the next Bills fan, but they are an efficient defense.  The Bills need to get there and the national media will pipe down.

[LSHMEAB]

13 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

If we didn't hear this every single off season I might believe it.  But then las season happens.

I get it, but I've personally never thought it was the case. I know that means absolutely nothing in the grand scheme of things, but I believe the decline is imminent in 2019. What he did in the postseason was probably the most impressive performance of his entire career largely because he was putting everything he had into semi routine throws. He'll never lose the awareness. Never lose the mind. But the arm is beginning to fail him this time. He's teetering on the brink right now with his velocity level, despite the reports of his 101 MPH fastball.

[4merper4mer]

1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

4355 yards, 29 TDs, 66%, rating 98%.   Yup--he's in free fall.

 

Also, NE has been a top 10 D in points allowed for 12 of the past 13 years.

Congrats dude but bragging isn't a great look.

[bigK14094]

A week from Sunday we will find out.

[klos63]

1 hour ago, Tatonka68 said:

NFL live on ESPN just said that the New England Patriots are the best and most complete defense in the AFC East. What a joke. They even said they have the best line-backing core. Did you here that Edmunds,  Lo  and Milano ?  I am so tired of this, the Bills need to shut up these jerks up and SHUT OUT the Patriots in week 4. I am calling it. 31-0 whoop-ass on the CHEATS.

Is that really 'dissing' the Bills?

[Mr. WEO]

6 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said:

I get it, but I've personally never thought it was the case. I know that means absolutely nothing in the grand scheme of things, but I believe the decline is imminent in 2019. What he did in the postseason was probably the most impressive performance of his entire career largely because he was putting everything he had into semi routine throws. He'll never lose the awareness. Never lose the mind. But the arm is beginning to fail him this time. He's teetering on the brink right now with his velocity level, despite the reports of his 101 MPH fastball.

 

 

In the playoffs, he had more yards, more yards per game (by far), more passes over 20 yards than anyone and the highest completion % and the highest completion % for 1st downs. He had the second highest YPA of any QB who played at least 2 games.

 

 

[billsfan_34]

ESPN - A sad sorry excuse for a sports channel- pure garbage and has been for some time now. 

[Dr. Who]

4 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

 

In the playoffs, he had more yards, more yards per game (by far), more passes over 20 yards than anyone and the highest completion % and the highest completion % for 1st downs. He had the second highest YPA of any QB who played at least 2 games.

 

 

Doesn't mean anything about the upcoming year. We'll see how golden boy does. Still think last super bowl should have been Saints KC.

[Mr. WEO]

2 minutes ago, Dr. Who said:

Doesn't mean anything about the upcoming year. We'll see how golden boy does. Still think last super bowl should have been Saints KC.

 

KC is too poorly coached in the playoffs.  No SB for them. 

 

But I agree re: Saints

[Hapless Bills Fan]

2 hours ago, Tatonka68 said:

NFL live on ESPN just said that the New England Patriots are the best and most complete defense in the AFC East. What a joke. They even said they have the best line-backing core. Did you here that Edmunds,  Lo  and Milano ?  I am so tired of this, the Bills need to shut up these jerks up and SHUT OUT the Patriots in week 4. I am calling it. 31-0 whoop-ass on the CHEATS.

 

I would be happy for the Bills to shut them up, but you know this time of year, the pundits all go off last year's team records. 

 

Last year, Pats #7 on points, Bills #18.  Pats #11 vs run, Bills #16 and kind of spotty - sometimes tight, sometimes gashed for the big yards.

 

Until we prove different, we are what last year's results say we are and the Pats are the defending world champs and the team to beat.

[CaptnCoke11]

Wait.. Do we like ESPN or do we not?

[That's No Moon]

You are aware they held the Rams, who averaged, 32.4 points per game over 18 games including the playoffs to a whopping 3 in the Super Bowl right?

[Peace Frog]

The Paytoilets juggernaut centers around Belichick.  He is the Emperor to Brady's Darth Vader.  Simple as that.

[Teddy KGB]

They must not know about Callie.   

 

Who greenlit this take at ESPN 

 

 

[GETTOTHE50]

2 hours ago, BBills88 said:

Soon as the Bills start winning. 

They all will be jock riding. Like they all do.

 

Hasselcrack will still say pretender on the stupid pretender contender segment

[Mat68]

The Patriots defense snuffed out kid genius.  Bill is a defensive wizard.  With that said, having an extremely efficient offense has helped mask their personnel liabilities.  Buffalo has to earn it on the feild and win games before they get any attention. 

[clearwater cadet]

 

[T master]

3 hours ago, Tatonka68 said:

NFL live on ESPN just said that the New England Patriots are the best and most complete defense in the AFC East. What a joke. They even said they have the best line-backing core. Did you here that Edmunds,  Lo  and Milano ?  I am so tired of this, the Bills need to shut up these jerks up and SHUT OUT the Patriots in week 4. I am calling it. 31-0 whoop-ass on the CHEATS.

 

Good i'm glad it's just more fuel for the fire !! B/lo is always disrespected & i would rather have them fly under the radar it works more to our favor !! 

[NickelCity]

Just win. That's all it takes.

[John from Riverside]

2 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said:

Defending Champs.

Defense is definitely legit in NE.

Buffalo won 6 games and while 2nd in yards allowed, was mediocre in most other defensive metrics.

Pats shut down one of the most prolific offenses in the NFL last year in the SB and also beat the most prolific offense in the NFL to get there.  

 

Where is the shock?  Respect is earned on the field.  Bills need to earn it before they can demand it.

 

 

What is the most important defense metric?

[CABraves-BillsFanSince1992]

There is a reason why the bills defense is not considered top ten. And as a precursor. I am a die hard bills fan and bleed buffalo. However, i am extremely worried about the defense. Reasons why:

 

-last year offense was putrid 

-time of possession 

-opposing coaches offensive game plans (recent Matt lefleur arrticle)

-No real threats (this year at least one - tremaine edmunds)

 

And here’s why in depth: opposing teams knew the bills offense was awful, they knew they would win the game as long as they didn’t give it away via turnovers and defensive errors. They played it cautious after the bills were blown out by the ravens and chargers. The defense never really faced a true offense. The bills end of season stats are way overrated. Obviously when you are terrible a team very rarely will pass against you. Aka why the bills pass defense was so highly ranked. Offenses didn’t have to put up yards due to field position and turnovers. The bills were 22-25th ranked points per game. That’s the real telling stat. 

 

My concern and realization. I do think the bills defense is good. Maybe 15th. But with an at least average offense this year (god willing) that means teams will actually open up the playbook.  Look what happened last week. The lions shredded us. 

 

The bills will only win if the offense scores. Defense gets takeaways and somehow our special teams is good. 

 

Why has no one brought up our overrated stats based on our bad offense last year?

Edited August 29, 2019 by Orlando Nick

[McBean]

We’ve sucked for years.

 

Them and the media can say whatever the heck they want to say about the Buffalo Bills.

 

Show me the baby

[klos63]

27 minutes ago, T master said:

 

Good i'm glad it's just more fuel for the fire !! B/lo is always disrespected & i would rather have them fly under the radar it works more to our favor !! 

What, you think teams won't prepare for us the week they play us?

[John from Riverside]

9 minutes ago, McBean said:

We’ve sucked for years.

 

Them and the media can say whatever the heck they want to say about the Buffalo Bills.

 

Show me the baby

I pretty much agree with that as long as they are not making ***** up

 

The team has sucked for years....fact

 

The DEFENSE has not.....under Mcd we have been pretty good

 

I find it interesting that when talking about the Patriots...nothing they do is every wrong or outdated

 

When WE were dominant running the ball......we sucked now that the pats have worked their way around to playing great defense and are running the ball...they are great

 

 

[letsgoteam]

I stopped watching ESPN unless an actual game is on. No more analysts and talk shows! My life has never been happier from a tv viewing perspective! I wish I would have done it sooner!! 

[T master]

34 minutes ago, klos63 said:

What, you think teams won't prepare for us the week they play us?

 

Thats not what i said in the past it just always seems to work out better for the Bills if they fly under the radar, every team the Bills play will prepare like all the other teams by looking at the tape from previous games played . 

 

Every time the media jumps on the Bills band wagon the expectations seem to be higher which may have an effect on the players the same way that when some one counts you as not as good it becomes motivation to prove that you are better than they think that's all i was saying ...

[billsbackto81]

To be fair the Pats do sport 2 or 3 extra defenders on the field during a game,... unfortunately their uniforms are striped.

[uticaclub]

If you don’t look at stats and actually watch defense from last year, yeah the Pats have a better D. If Milano, Edmunds, White all continue to develop and Ed Oliver is able to make an immediate impact, there might be a discussion. I hate the Patriots but i really hate when people get butthurt over absolutely nothing 

[Alphadawg7]

2 hours ago, John from Riverside said:

What is the most important defense metric?

 

For me, it’s always PPG.  Object of the game is to score more points than your opponent, so only points matter to me.

[MJS]

Their linebackers are definitely more proven and experienced. It's not a stretch to say their linebackers are better than ours. I'd say they have a pretty darn good defense overall.

 

Plus they win a lot. So why wouldn't people think the Pats have a better defense?

18 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

For me, it’s always PPG.  Object of the game is to score more points than your opponent, so only points matter to me.

For me turnovers are a distant 2nd. Turnovers can really change the outcome of a game. So if you have a defense that ranks well in PPG and forces a lot of turnovers, that's legit.

 

3rd stat maybe red zone TD's allowed? Holding teams to field goals in the red zone is huge. But that would reflect in points per game, I suppose.

[Freddie's Dead]

6 hours ago, Tatonka68 said:

NFL live on ESPN just said that the New England Patriots are the best and most complete defense in the AFC East. What a joke. They even said they have the best line-backing core. Did you here that Edmunds,  Lo  and Milano ?  I am so tired of this, the Bills need to shut up these jerks up and SHUT OUT the Patriots in week 4. I am calling it. 31-0 whoop-ass on the CHEATS.

 

Just so they can beat us later by the same score, no doubt.

[mrags]

6 hours ago, Tatonka68 said:

NFL live on ESPN just said that the New England Patriots are the best and most complete defense in the AFC East. What a joke. They even said they have the best line-backing core. Did you here that Edmunds,  Lo  and Milano ?  I am so tired of this, the Bills need to shut up these jerks up and SHUT OUT the Patriots in week 4. I am calling it. 31-0 whoop-ass on the CHEATS.

The LB is our defenses biggest weakness. And that’s not saying much because our pass rush is horrendous as well. Lorax is almost as old as Brady, Milano is at best a ham and egg’r, Edmonds is still completely unknown. 

 

If you want to speak reasonably, the Bills defense wasn’t even close to as touted as everyone made them out to be last year. 

 

They were 2nd in yards against sure, but...

 

-16th against the run

-18th points against

-18th points scored

-14th tied with 3 teams for sacks

 

The fact is, teams weren’t worried about passing on us and risking turnovers. They ran it down our throats when they meant it and there was nothing we could do to stop it. Especially in the red zone where we were 30th in the league where we gave up more than 70% of chances against us. 

 

 

 

[formerlyofCtown]

The only way to shut them up is on the field.  The defense also needs to be consistent, as in every single week.  We wont get noticed because we arent in a big city so our team has to make people take notice.  We had games last year that we got whooped in and in order to gain recognition or to truly be a great D that can't happen.  

 

We were rated #2 but we weren't the second best D in the NFL last season.  I believe that changes this season.

 

1. Our MLB is not a Rookie anymore and I believe he is showing that.

2. Our depth is improved all over the D.

3. Most importantly our offense will stay on the field more.

 

All this will improve our consistency.  This season I believe we will become a legit top 5 D.

 

The media will probably rate us as a top 10.?

 

 

[nickrage]

9 hours ago, SirAndrew said:

No worries, no musical talent necessary to be a star in modern Nashville. 

You win TSW today

[formerlyofCtown]

2 hours ago, mrags said:

The LB is our defenses biggest weakness. And that’s not saying much because our pass rush is horrendous as well. Lorax is almost as old as Brady, Milano is at best a ham and egg’r, Edmonds is still completely unknown. 

 

If you want to speak reasonably, the Bills defense wasn’t even close to as touted as everyone made them out to be last year. 

 

They were 2nd in yards against sure, but...

 

-16th against the run

-18th points against

-18th points scored

-14th tied with 3 teams for sacks

 

The fact is, teams weren’t worried about passing on us and risking turnovers. They ran it down our throats when they meant it and there was nothing we could do to stop it. Especially in the red zone where we were 30th in the league where we gave up more than 70% of chances against us. 

 

 

 

Those stats were blown up by a few games.  Just as our #2 rating was aided by our pass D.  Consistency was the issue.

Teams probably felt fortunate they could run on us because passing wasn't an option.  Some day you will actually watch something other than stats when you break things down.  

 

Age is not a factor in rating a players play on the field.  It could be something that affect their play.  Whether you're 25 and good or 45 and good makes no difference.  Something is wrong with your analysis when your only critique of a guy is that he's old.

 

What they accomplished with how inept the offense was is impressive.

 

Milano was playing at a probowl level before his injury.  One of the problems with our D was Milano wasnt out there.

[machine gun kelly]

11 hours ago, Tatonka68 said:

NFL live on ESPN just said that the New England Patriots are the best and most complete defense in the AFC East. What a joke. They even said they have the best line-backing core. Did you here that Edmunds,  Lo  and Milano ?  I am so tired of this, the Bills need to shut up these jerks up and SHUT OUT the Patriots in week 4. I am calling it. 31-0 whoop-ass on the CHEATS.

 

Tatonka, I am sincerely not picking on you, but watching ESPN is a mistake.  They are not well informed and just use peripheral information and make silly assertions.  Again, just friendly advice and don’t watch ESPN.  You’ll just get annoyed when the Bills come up.

[H2o]

ESPN

 

Existentially

Slobbing

Patriots'

Nuts

[RaoulDuke79]

If the topic is the AFC East,  just assume that ESPN will consider the Patriots the top of every conceivable category. 

[Bookie Man]

ESPN is lame. 

[teef]

my holiday weekend is ruined.