Diggs traded to Texans for picks

[DrDawkinstein]

1 minute ago, Freddie's Dead said:

 

I read like three articles that said the Bills eat the dead cap.

 

"By the book", yes. But Houston can take on whatever they want, and even send us straight up cash.

[loveorhatembillsfan4life]

Should have traded him to the NFC. This team loves giving other AfC teams Super Bowls ..

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

3 minutes ago, PBF81 said:

 

LOL, Samuel's had plenty of opportunity to be HUGE and has never even sniffed those results.  7 seasons to be precise.  

 

The trade compensation was this year's 6th and next year's 2nd and 5th.  

 

And you're right, Samuel's role is now HUGE, but honestly, anyone expecting that to materialize in the way that we need is going to be incredibly disappointed.  

 

 

He ain’t gonna be any worse than diggs was the second half of last year to be fair 😂. This could be anything between ‘Texans fleeced us’ to ‘we fleeced the Texans’ depending on what diggs has left in the tank lol 

Edited April 3 by Generic_Bills_Fan

[DrDawkinstein]

2 minutes ago, SWATeam said:

The remaining amount of the money we already paid?

 

Yes.

[H2o]

Personally, I don't care Diggs is gone. So be it. We got a 2025 2nd, which is more than we would get next offseason if we held onto him. We also take the cap hit this year versus next. Thanks for the play the first couple of years, but the last couple your antics have been ridiculous. A very childish mentality. you can try to say, "He just wants to win. He's a competitor." But all of them want to win and they can keep their emotions under wraps, instead of having toddler type outbursts. Then he would run to social media all the time with his dumb antics as well. I was over it. I think everyone behind the scenes was over it. I think Josh did the best he could to keep the waters calm in all of his interviews, but he was over it. Let's go hit on a couple of WR's this draft and keep it moving. This situation REALLY could end up being addition by subtraction. 

[boyst]

2 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

 

Dell is their slot guy and he’s better then Diggs

Dell can go to flanker and be just fine. they don't have a running back. diggs doesn't belong outside.

[TheyCallMeAndy]

Bills eat THAT much dead cap is validation to the issues behind the scenes rumors. 
 

[BillsfaninChicago]

3 minutes ago, BillsfaninChicago said:

I found my post where I quasi predicted this!

 

And yes I want a cookie 🍪 

 

 

 

In fairness I then proceeded to demonstrate that I have no idea what I am talking about…

 

[RyanC883]

1 minute ago, Alphadawg7 said:

Football wise...I am EXCITED about the roles of Shakir and Kincaid expanding.  Management wise, I am puzzled why we didn't do this after June 1st and lessen the cap burden given we didn't get back any draft capital in this draft.  

 

I am actually not that concerned about the offense, I think we will still be an elite offense, I mean we were last year and went 6-1 with our WR1 and WR2 producing very little in that time last year.  

 

I just don't understand the timing if we didn't get a pick in this draft.

 

agreed.  totally ridiculous to get nothing in this draft and have it cost more cap wise, thus limiting our FA acquisition ability.  

[BIGFOOTspaceman]

2 minutes ago, Mark Vader said:

How?

This years first and second, next years first and two seconds. That'll move you up quite a ways and would be very attractive to a developing team.  Only took me half a second to come up with that scenario. 

[4th&long]

Whatever the case is with the cap, it just shows you how bad the bills wanted him off the team.

[Royale with Cheese]

Now draft day is going to be really, really, really interesting.

[KingBoots8]

Regardless of whatever behind the scenes stuff played out, and whatever his feelings are about the team, I’ll say this:

 

 

Thank you Stef.

[Donuts and Doritos]

There has to be a Huge back story we don't know about. The compensation seems like Beane wanted to be rid of him & his cap hit. Either Diggs really wanted out & it was worse than we know (like his production went down bc he quit) OR Beane thinks he's cooked & not worth the $. I'm sure there could be other options too. It seems like a sudden rash trade.

 

Edited April 3 by Donuts and Doritos

[BADOLBILZ]

17 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

I really don’t understand how the finances of this actually worked.

 

 

Agree.

 

I have been envisioning this trade since all the smoke started around the Pro Bowl and felt Beane would have to get very creative to swing this deal.

 

  It would perhaps involve Diggs not being able to report to the Texans until June and the Bills trading a future #1 pick(say 2026) as a place holder for a current Texans day 2 pick(s).     Then flipping Diggs to get that future Bills pick back in June when they had the cap space to make a deal.

 

They kinda' need that 2nd or 3rd round pick NOW to maneuver for the now multiple WR's they want/need.

 

  

Edited April 3 by BADOLBILZ

[first_and_ten]

2 minutes ago, BuffaloBill said:

 

 

Have no idea if numbers are correct but this is among the early info out on cap situation.

 

Wow, Beane is willing to take his medicine this year. The Bills are taking a major step back this year!!

[Mark Vader]

16 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

Can we go up and get Harrison?

With what?

[Billz4ever]

Everyone saw Diggs disappear the second half of the season last year.  It doesn't seem like he was an important cog in the Brady offense.

 

So if that is true, it would actually be a bad on Beane to not try to move a guy whose basically been a giant distraction and who still has some trade value left to salvage.

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

Just now, DrDawkinstein said:

 

That's the "by the book" breakdown.

 

Houston can take on any amount they want, and even trade us cash for a player.

 

We'll have to see how this shakes out.

 

Cash doesn't affect the cap space taken out.  It would just... pay for stuff.  

 

I believe they can still spread cap hit over 2 years though. 

[4merper4mer]

2 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

That's the "by the book" breakdown.

 

Houston can take on any amount they want, and even trade us cash for a player.

 

We'll have to see how this shakes out.

Or we have to cut nine more players.  

[DrDawkinstein]

Here is an article from when the Texans traded Osweiler to Cleveland for nothing other than cap space, and Cleveland took on his guaranteed/dead cap money.

 

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/18865517/houston-texans-trade-brock-osweiler-2018-second-round-pick-cleveland-browns

[KentuckyBillsFan]

Just now, BIGFOOTspaceman said:

This years first and second, next years first and two seconds. That'll move you up quite a ways and would be very attractive to a developing team.  Only took me half a second to come up with that scenario. 

That's way too much to give up on a WR in a loaded WR class imo... That's the haul you only give for a no-brainer stud QB

[Hsker4life]

Going to miss all his late season production from last year.

[DrDawkinstein]

Just now, 4merper4mer said:

Or we have to cut nine more players.  

 

Im sure that's Beane's plan

[BuffaloBillies]

Long game play? To be built to win it first year in new stadium 2026. Gotta sell those seats....

[May Day 10]

2 minutes ago, BuffaloBill said:

 

 

Have no idea if numbers are correct but this is among the early info out on cap situation.

 

 

So if this is accurate, this basically costs the Bills $4 Million additional this year, and they are scott-free otherwise.

 

Does anyone here know whether or not that $31.096 can now be spread across 2 years?  If so, that can provide some immediate savings.  

 

Thirdly, I wonder if Diggs is going to press the Texans for an extension/restructure with such little guaranteed money?

[ndirish1978]

3 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

That's the "by the book" breakdown.

 

Houston can take on any amount they want, and even trade us cash for a player.

 

We'll have to see how this shakes out.

 

 

Edited April 3 by ndirish1978

[coloradobillsfan]

So Maddy was right after all

[DasNootz]

3 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

Football wise...I am EXCITED about the roles of Shakir and Kincaid expanding.  Management wise, I am puzzled why we didn't do this after June 1st and lessen the cap burden given we didn't get back any draft capital in this draft.  

 

I am actually not that concerned about the offense, I think we will still be an elite offense, I mean we were last year and went 6-1 with our WR1 and WR2 producing very little in that time last year.  

 

I just don't understand the timing if we didn't get a pick in this draft.

I assume the valued the draft capital to move up this month more than the cap burden savings of waiting until after the draft.

[KDIGGZ]

Just now, Donuts and Doritos said:

There has to be a Huge back story we don't know about. The compensation seems like Beane wanted to be rid of him & his cao hit. Either Diggs really wanted out & it was worse than we know (like his production went down bc he quit) OR Beane thinks he's cooked & not worth the $. I'm sure there could be other options too. It seems like a sudden rash trade.

It's a bad trade no matter how people try to rationalize it. GM's do dumb things sometimes. It happens

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

Just now, KingBoots8 said:

Regardless of whatever behind the scenes stuff played out, and whatever his feelings are about the team, I’ll say this:

 

 

Thank you Stef.

 

Yeah - great player here. Never got over the top, but anything other than thank you for the contributions isn't really fair to the guy.  

 

 

[DJB]

 

[Gregg]

6 minutes ago, Mark Vader said:

How?

 

Have no idea but I would imagine Beane has a plan here. They HAVE TO get a top WR now if they plan on competing for a Super Bowl this year. 

[BuffaloBill]

Just now, first_and_ten said:

 

Wow, Beane is willing to take his medicine this year. The Bills are taking a major step back this year!!

 

You assume they take a step back - I do not see it that way - Diggs was a non factor in the second half of the season.  The Bills have the opportunity to upgrade and move on.

[akm0404]

Washed up diva acting like he's Jerry Rice when he's just a bootleg Peerless Price.

 

Good riddance, cut out the cancer and maybe we can save the rest of the body.

[appoo]

3 minutes ago, LLCoolCy said:

Higgins, Ayiuk and D. Adams would be the available trade targets. Appears this off season Beane is looking to start phase 2 of the Josh era and getting younger which would cross off Adams (and his large contract). I don't see Cinci trading Higgins to the Bills or any other AFC contender but could be a FA target next year. Ayiuk was rumored to be offered to Jax for #17 and Z Jones... He will need an extension but that can massaged to fit this year. Ayiuk would be the target if Beane is looking for an immediate trade. 

Offer Cinncy a 1st and the new 2nd they probably take that trade. But the question is if Higgins wants to extend with Buffalo

[Brian Higgins hair]

I’m guessing Rome O, and I don’t think it takes more than trading 1sts and the 25 2nd.

[Virgil]

1 minute ago, Mark Vader said:

With what?

Hopes and dreams?  Maybe an IOU for one massage. 

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

1 minute ago, BillsfaninChicago said:

 

In fairness I then proceeded to demonstrate that I have no idea what I am talking about…

 

It’s kind of an ironic ending that a massive wide open diggs drop caused ‘the process’ to fail last year lol 

 

diggs wasn’t right for months…not sure if it’s his motivations and maybe new scenery will help him out but he just wasn’t nearly the same player the latter half of last year 

[Alphadawg7]

6 minutes ago, Einstein said:

 

Very weak comp.

The Bills wanted him gone.

 

Yeah, and I was saying all offseason I felt there was no way we would trade Diggs before the draft and take on that much dead cap hit unless something behind the scenes forced the issue.  And thus far, nothing has come out that would qualify as significant enough to make this move.

 

So it makes me wonder what we are going to find out now that Diggs has been moved.  Seems like this had to be an "addition by subtraction" move in Beanes eyes to take on that dead cap and not even get a pick in this WR rich draft back.  I mean he didn't even wait until after June 1st when the cap was less of a hit which would have made more business sense given we got no picks back in this draft. 

 

So I am really curious to what we are gonna hear that was going on behind the scenes that he had to make this move and take this weak compensation back.