Mr. WEO Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 In like Tarzan, out like Jane. What's that worth? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 It’s a business. Players are always going to go to the highest bidder. As they should. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 24 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: In like Tarzan, out like Jane. What's that worth? Yeah his last 6 games were pretty quiet....if Von doesn't return in September to some semblance of his better production, we will be hurting bigtime. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 59 minutes ago, NewEra said: I don’t think the guaranteed money will be similar No, I don't either. Epenesa is younger. I'm talking about the annual average. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Digg? Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 The reality is this is how many teams operate, especially with a franchise QB. There will be a bunch of guys on 1 year prove it deals. Floyd proved it, he doesn’t owe the Bills anything, he deserves to get paid by someone. He will move on and the Bills will find another guy on a 1 year prove it deal. Thats what the salary cap does-you have a small handful of guys you give big deals to, the team has their rookie deal guys, then everyone else is on these 1-2 year deals 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 (edited) 2 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said: What narrative about him did he dispel that will make him more attractive? You aren't making sense about the "draft bust" thing being a knock on him coming into his age 31 season. He cleared that "draft bust" notion like 5-6 years ago. He had a hot start to the 2023 season but totally vanished in the last 7 games. That isn't likely to be lost on prospective employers who are generally loathe to pay 32-33 year old non-HOF pass rushers any significant money. A one-word synopsis of what he put on tape during that stretch is "washed". It may be because of injury but it was what it was. I don't see the Bills even giving Floyd another $9M 1 year deal.........but Beane isn't great with the cap so we can't rule it out. He was absolutely considered a bust before he signed with the Rams. The Bears flat out released him before he signed on with the Rams. I was saying that he was considered a bust before going to the Rams - not now. And after the Rams, I think there was some thought that his success there had more to do with Aaron Donald taking so much attention away from him. That led to teams not being as hot on him and him coming here on a 1 year deal to prove it wasn't just being next to Donald. He did fall off a bit down the stretch, but he was banged up. But for the majority of the season on a new team, he did look just as good here as he did in LA. On the other hand, much like last season, it's a pretty deep class for Pass Rushers in FA. So he may once again find himself with a smaller market than he hopes for. Edited January 26 by BillsFanForever19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 4 hours ago, BuffaloBillyG said: He was coming off a 9 sack season and still available pretty late into FA. I don't expect that to change being a year older now. I'd say there is a chance we see him back on a one or two year deal a bit later in the FA cycle. A 2 year deal with a small pay bump makes sense. agreed. He is going to get a short term deal from any team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimBob2232 Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 Good. we need lots of guys on "prove it" deals next year. Hope his success makes others want to come and do it too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 4 hours ago, BuffaloBillyG said: He was coming off a 9 sack season and still available pretty late into FA. I don't expect that to change being a year older now. I'd say there is a chance we see him back on a one or two year deal a bit later in the FA cycle. A 2 year deal with a small pay bump makes sense. He probably was choosy last season and think he more concerned with a chance at a title combined with a fair contract. He could do the same this off-season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 He had some nice moments, but was pretty one dimensional. I think we need an upgrade. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Harris 69 Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 It’s early Floyd might be available later. I still say we cut loose Von in March and save 6 million this year—-dead cap be damned. He will get his first sack in November or December. Too little —too late. Follow the rams, they cut loose the old and brought in kids, still had a pretty good D. Coach will have to to get off the old vet BS. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 5 hours ago, boyst said: in a dream world we can ditch Von and give that money to the guys who deserved it. Floyd, AJE, Jones, and more. Entire dline disappeared against the Chiefs. No need to worry about who stays and goes from the current group. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 13 minutes ago, Chaos said: Entire dline disappeared against the Chiefs. No need to worry about who stays and goes from the current group. We have 1 dt and 1 de on the roster for next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikie2times Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 1 minute ago, boyst said: We have 1 dt and 1 de on the roster for next year. Glad we didn't draft any WR's. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
without a drought Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 5 hours ago, Jay_Fixit said: What about re-signing him? Eye sea what ewe did their. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whkfc Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 I loved the signing when it happened. Had me legit excited it was one that was late kinda low key and thought it was great and he had a really good season. But he definitely faded as the year went along and pretty much vanished over the last 4 games or so. I think he's a guy that can be good for a team but I believe his age is catching up to him. He fading late in season is usually the first sign of the decline then its constant nagging injuries then they are done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 6 hours ago, Gregg said: https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/doesn-t-sound-like-leonard-floyd-will-give-bills-discount-to-re-sign-him/ar-BB1hgslf?ocid=entnewsntp&pc=U531&cvid=f139b46f016244beb17b16511f8944d7&ei=25 Yes, he made it pretty clear he was going for the $$. But we'll see what his market is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 1 hour ago, Jimmy Harris 69 said: It’s early Floyd might be available later. I still say we cut loose Von in March and save 6 million this year—-dead cap be damned. He will get his first sack in November or December. Too little —too late. Follow the rams, they cut loose the old and brought in kids, still had a pretty good D. Coach will have to to get off the old vet BS. This team needs to get younger starting this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruffalo Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 Guy who had a better than average season wants to be paid better than average. More news at 11. What a non-story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VW82 Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 Nor should he. Do people really expect guys to be giving Bills discounts? Do you guys also give your employers discounts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan2313 Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 13 hours ago, BringBackFergy said: Those sacks (when it didn’t count) were great! C ya All sacks count 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 He was good but faded down the stretch. He was only signed because Miller was not ready to play at start of season. Miller will be better next year. They need to get younger on the edge. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muppy Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 I appreciate all the thoughts in this thread. I trust the Bills will make their decision based on the best interests of the team . I had a fangirl crush on him after I saw this photo and his dominant play in 2023. Why it fell off down the stretch is both the rub and qualifying question in all of this. It won't be a unanimous decision either way regardless wether we keep him or not All I can say Damn he is FINE y'all 🙂 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transient Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 17 hours ago, Gregg said: Try and win a Super Bowl. Been there done that with the Rams. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HamSandwhich Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 I wouldn’t expect him to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Higgins hair Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 19 hours ago, Aussie Joe said: He signed very late and may have turned down better offers early then had to settle… I don’t think they will even want him back next season… they need a longer term solution .. Somewhat true, but no matter how much draft capitol we throw at pass rushers, it hasn’t come to us through the draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 1 hour ago, Brian Higgins hair said: Somewhat true, but no matter how much draft capitol we throw at pass rushers, it hasn’t come to us through the draft. Similar to drafting QBs from 1985-2017….. maybe we should just stop drafting them? no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benderbender Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 Hold your breath if you think modern players take discounts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aceman_16 Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 21 hours ago, Success said: Can't see him staying. A team w/ more cap will offer him more. He was awesome for us, regardless. Wish him well wherever he may go. And heck...at least a better status in the comp pick formula! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 5 hours ago, Brian Higgins hair said: Somewhat true, but no matter how much draft capitol we throw at pass rushers, it hasn’t come to us through the draft. No it hasn't After 3 full seasons Rousseau is averaging 5.5 sacks....AJE after 4 seasons is averaging 3.8 sacks. If they were game wreckers we'd know it by now. Basham was worthless as is Shaq. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 Buh bye 👋🏿 time to get younger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 Great signing, had a great year, did nothing in the Chiefs game. Bye. Would rather sign AJE to a team friendly deal if we both sides are willing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilthyBeast Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 He was great early on but had one sack in his final 8 games including absolutely nothing in the playoffs so thank you for you service and goodbye! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 9 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said: He was great early on but had one sack in his final 8 games including absolutely nothing in the playoffs so thank you for you service and goodbye! I love what Leonard meant out of the gate but that 1 sack in his last 8 games speaks volumes. Time to draft a pass rusher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 (edited) 8 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: I love what Leonard meant out of the gate but that 1 sack in his last 8 games speaks volumes. Time to draft a pass rusher. I don’t disagree … but how many picks we got again? That makes 2 receivers, Safety, Edge, DT and maybe C… hope we can find a few on Day 3 … Edited January 26 by Aussie Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 On 1/25/2024 at 1:57 PM, BuffaloBillyG said: He was coming off a 9 sack season and still available pretty late into FA. I don't expect that to change being a year older now. I'd say there is a chance we see him back on a one or two year deal a bit later in the FA cycle. A 2 year deal with a small pay bump makes sense. Yeah, and there were other veteran pass rushers available late into free agency, too. There will be some options. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Fan Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 On 1/25/2024 at 2:57 PM, BuffaloBillyG said: He was coming off a 9 sack season and still available pretty late into FA. I don't expect that to change being a year older now. I'd say there is a chance we see him back on a one or two year deal a bit later in the FA cycle. A 2 year deal with a small pay bump makes sense. Yeah and he faded out in the end Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 Would bring him back, but he would have to take a paycut Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl2526 Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 I think Floyd is gone. The Bills are stuck with Miller next season because he's too expensive to get rid of. Hopefully, he'll be fully recovered. I'm also hoping that his lack of productivity this season had more to do with the lagging effects of his injury than his age. As I'm reminded every day, you don't recover from old age. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo1105 Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 This is what good teams do, sign a guy for a year, maximize him, and have him sign a big contract elsewhere and take the comp pick. Get younger and cheaper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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