FireChans Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 Man, this dinosaur just doesn’t get it. Trying to run the ball down a teams’ throat, sustaining long drives and keeping our defense fresh to attack an off-balance offense? This is crazy. We need to run an offense like Dallas and throw almost every play, like genius offensive HC’s like McCarthy do. This is why defensive coaches will never win anything. Stuck in the stone ages. 9 3 2 19 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Búfalo Blanco Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 Fire McClappy! Hire Mike Martz!!! 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WEATHER DOT COM Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 Good win I'd rather have Dallas record this year than the Bills, though. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bookie Man Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 I've been saying for years we needed to run the ball more, to add a ball control element to the offensive arsenal.. since the Daboll days. Got crushed hard. Everyone said you can't be a running team with 17 back there. Elway didn't win it all til he got Terrell Davis. 4 2 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 There is going to be 100 sarcastic McD Threads this week and I am all for it. Hell if of a win, #70 of his career and the players have been loud and clear what they think of their HC. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 Fire everyone!!!! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goin Breakdown Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 On a day when you play a pass rush like this, then yea McD's run and play complimentary ball works. Brady is playing what works right now, I'll take it and not even care that Josh only had like 90+ air yards. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prissythecat Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 9 minutes ago, FireChans said: Man, this dinosaur just doesn’t get it. Trying to run the ball down a teams’ throat, sustaining long drives and keeping our defense fresh to attack an off-balance offense? This is crazy. We need to run an offense like Dallas and throw almost every play, like genius offensive HC’s like McCarthy do. This is why defensive coaches will never win anything. Stuck in the stone ages. Lol that is exactly the kind of offense that BillsFan1972 likes . Its exciting 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strive_for_five_guy Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 If I must give a compliment, that was a solid display of complementary football Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 As I've been saying for the last few years...just because the Bills are primarily built as a passing team and that the rules favor the passing game, that doesn't mean that a good running game isn't valuable and worth investing in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bermuda Triangle Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 Shouldn't the goal of any offense be to exploit a defense's weaknesses and try to minimize its strengths? 4 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 To be fair, we won't win anything because his defenses have crapped the bed in every single game the Bills have been eliminated in in the playoffs in the JA era. Doesn't really have much to do with how the offense plays. Although this was a game that the weather and Dallas' league worst run defense dictated a heavy dose of the Bills run game. Meanwhile, google how the Bengals defense has OVERPERFORMED their regular season performances every postseason. BUT I'll hold out hope still that the stars will align and the Bills win won with the current coach/QB duo. 2019- outscored 19-0 in the second half including letting the Texans convert 2/2 on 2 point conversions. 2020- give up 38 to the Chiefs 2021- give up 42 to the Chiefs 2022- give up 27 to the Bengals after letting them open the game with two straight TD's which basically has happened the last three times we've played the Bengals. 3 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 I promised Simon I would let up on a certain poster. But there will be people sad we didn’t win throwing the ball. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigpen65 Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 Running more than throwing in a weather game..... Dorsey's hamster wheel must have disintegrated trying to understand what he was watching in this game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerome007 Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 The run might not work on all teams, but wow did it work today! At LAST when the offense has success they stick with it instead of outsmarting themselves. When other teams eventually play to stop the run and "dare Josh Allen to throw"... the Bills will oblige ha ha. Cook played and was used exactly as some scouts were saying when he was drafted: unfair advantage. One can only dream but with Joe Brady plus Jones, Milano and Tre... just wow. I thought the Bills were better then last year, and still think it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramza86 Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 Whatever you say doesnt take away the fact is that this coach stinks when the going gets tough. 1 1 1 1 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 Meh, it’s a pass first league but if they are going to let you get regular chunk yards rushing then there’s no reason to stop until they adjust and give you something else. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 29 minutes ago, FireChans said: Man, this dinosaur just doesn’t get it. Trying to run the ball down a teams’ throat, sustaining long drives and keeping our defense fresh to attack an off-balance offense? This is crazy. We need to run an offense like Dallas and throw almost every play, like genius offensive HC’s like McCarthy do. This is why defensive coaches will never win anything. Stuck in the stone ages. Well played. 1 minute ago, Ramza86 said: Whatever you say doesnt take away the fact is that this coach stinks when the going gets tough. I bet you’re a huge hit at parties Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 26 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: There is going to be 100 sarcastic McD Threads this week and I am all for it. Hell if of a win, #70 of his career and the players have been loud and clear what they think of their HC. I tipped my hat to McDermott after the Dolphins beatdown. And I'll do the same now. Beautiful gameplan. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maine-iac Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 On the Cook TD run the commentators pointed out 6 guys in the box. Why the hell wouldn't we run it? Running it on them all game why the hell was Dallas only playing 6 in the box? Either way maybe we finally learned if they give you a light box, take it, and run it down their throats. Want to mention Johnson played well spelling Cook also. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said: To be fair, we won't win anything because his defenses have crapped the bed in every single game the Bills have been eliminated in in the playoffs in the JA era. Doesn't really have much to do with how the offense plays. Although this was a game that the weather and Dallas' league worst run defense dictated a heavy dose of the Bills run game. Meanwhile, google how the Bengals defense has OVERPERFORMED their regular season performances every postseason. BUT I'll hold out hope still that the stars will align and the Bills win won with the current coach/QB duo. 2019- outscored 19-0 in the second half including letting the Texans convert 2/2 on 2 point conversions. 2020- give up 38 to the Chiefs 2021- give up 42 to the Chiefs 2022- give up 27 to the Bengals after letting them open the game with two straight TD's which basically has happened the last three times we've played the Bengals. When it works that offensive game plan with motivated players is great. Paired with a defense that then gets to play downhill an opponent is forced to throw (Edit: into that zone). Getting all these elements to go this way is challenging. Edited December 18, 2023 by BillsVet 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 11 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: I promised Simon I would let up on a certain poster. But there will be people sad we didn’t win throwing the ball. I think you are being dramatic. we definitely have to figure the passing game out to win but when picking up 7-8 ypc, which is in line with a passing ypa, no one cares. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 9 minutes ago, NoSaint said: I think you are being dramatic. we definitely have to figure the passing game out to win but when picking up 7-8 ypc, which is in line with a passing ypa, no one cares. I promised I’d be nice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 Thank you for using "complementary" correctly instead of "complimentary". Drives me right up the *****in' wall. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Man with No Name Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 it's nice to have a competent o-coordinator. on the other hand, if he is competent for the rest of the year and again next year, we will have to start again from scratch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cursed Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, FireChans said: This is crazy. We need to run an offense like Dallas and throw almost every play, like genius offensive HC’s like McCarthy do. Heaven forbid we be in a situation like Dallas this year.... already booked a playoff spot and all.. Edited December 18, 2023 by Cursed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlCowlingsTaxiService Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 Cmon now … that morning clown on WGR told us all that running backs just don’t matter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 1 hour ago, Maine-iac said: On the Cook TD run the commentators pointed out 6 guys in the box. Why the hell wouldn't we run it? Running it on them all game why the hell was Dallas only playing 6 in the box? Either way maybe we finally learned if they give you a light box, take it, and run it down their throats. Want to mention Johnson played well spelling Cook also. Some teams have been able to stop us running from a light box…Dallas very much not the case lol 1 minute ago, AlCowlingsTaxiService said: Cmon now … that morning clown on WGR told us all that running backs just don’t matter Someone here told me that today when I was talking about the 2019 titans 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnNord Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 1 hour ago, FireChans said: Man, this dinosaur just doesn’t get it. Trying to run the ball down a teams’ throat, sustaining long drives and keeping our defense fresh to attack an off-balance offense? This is crazy. We need to run an offense like Dallas and throw almost every play, like genius offensive HC’s like McCarthy do. This is why defensive coaches will never win anything. Stuck in the stone ages. Today’s result was a bit extreme. I don’t think he wanted to rush James Cook 25 times. But I always laughed when people criticized him for wanting a better running game. This is why Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikie2times Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 (edited) If the barometer for McD to redeem himself doesn't include any postseason results you should really be evaluating priorities. It's crazy to me how drastically opinions change in literally a couples games. Our fan base can't see past the end of it's nose. Edited December 18, 2023 by Mikie2times 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 1 hour ago, Maine-iac said: On the Cook TD run the commentators pointed out 6 guys in the box. Why the hell wouldn't we run it? Running it on them all game why the hell was Dallas only playing 6 in the box? Dallas did what every team has done, they called our bluff. They said "we'll give you a light box even when you run it down our throat because eventually you'll stupidly throw the ball downfield and waste a down and that will end the drive." This was the first game in a long time that we called their bluff back at them. Hopefully we keep at it. 2 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 1 hour ago, WEATHER DOT COM said: Good win I'd rather have Dallas record this year than the Bills, though. Me too. i’d take .#17 100 times out of 100 though 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 1 hour ago, oldmanfan said: I promised Simon I would let up on a certain poster. But there will be people sad we didn’t win throwing the ball. Was anybody else thinking that if Dorsey was still calling the plays he would've abandoned the running game? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 2 hours ago, FireChans said: Man, this dinosaur just doesn’t get it. Trying to run the ball down a teams’ throat, sustaining long drives and keeping our defense fresh to attack an off-balance offense? This is crazy. We need to run an offense like Dallas and throw almost every play, like genius offensive HC’s like McCarthy do. This is why defensive coaches will never win anything. Stuck in the stone ages. You really need to change your alias to FireMcD or FireAll. Bonfire would also be suitable. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKBillFan Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 Part of me wonders whether every high calibre QB would be as accepting as Josh about taking the ball out of his hands? Would they be kicking off, wanting the attention on them? Not all, but definitely some. Another reason the Bills are lucky to have him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinceThe70s Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 14 minutes ago, Man with No Name said: it's nice to have a competent o-coordinator. on the other hand, if he is competent for the rest of the year and again next year, we will have to start again from scratch. I'd argue that competence in coaching is an expectation not a 'nice to have'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transient Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 7 minutes ago, HappyDays said: Dallas did what every team has done, they called our bluff. They said "we'll give you a light box even when you run it down our throat because eventually you'll stupidly throw the ball downfield and waste a down and that will end the drive." This was the first game in a long time that we called their bluff back at them. Hopefully we keep at it. I commented to a friend that, had Dorsey still been OC, despite Cook having the day he was, he probably would have glued him to the bench and watched helplessly as Micah Parsons wrecked sh!t all game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 We matched up well against Dallas. They're not a team to stop the run. Their division does not run. It's why Miami will get TOP and likely win. The Fins OL is not as good as ours but Tua needs quick passes. Dallas can stop that... But we beat a team today that we overmatched with scheme wise. Next week we play a team we don't match up against well when Herbert plays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmur66 Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 McD is f’n crazy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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