John from Riverside Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 (edited) They have been carefully bringing him along on a snap count the weeks now we need for our pass rush to the elite in order to beat the Eagles Come on von Edited November 25, 2023 by John from Riverside 5 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 We'll see if he flips a switch one of these weeks but so far I'm not seeing it. I don't think we're getting a good full season from Von until next year....maybe? 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 I think you're just one game early 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iccrewman112 Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 In reality I don’t want him in the field much in the 2nd half of a close game. No snaps in the 4th quarter. 3 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 I’m not at all confident he’ll contribute much at all this year. 6 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 It's sad seeing a once great athlete struggle. However, I don't even think you should dress him at this point and I'm usually a glass half full guy. Roll with Floyd, Rousseau, Lawson, and Epenesa. I trust them more both in the pass rush and containing the edge (especially against a QB like Hurts). 6 11 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc11 Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 It seems like Von's only move is the speed rush, which isn't working. Sorry, but last thing we need is Von and his deep rushes allowing huge lanes for Hurts to run. 5 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Stonada Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 Play him in the 4-3 or 5-2 lineups we used last week, so he has less chance of being exposed. It's been bad when he's part of our base nickel, run or pass. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 I don’t know if it means anything, but he’s had that brace since his return, and was scheduled to be removed Gameday tomorrow. We’ll see if that actually does anything. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 As much as that would be awesome I don’t think that can be like a light switch. Our best hope is he gets there at some point maybe even not until next year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChanticleerBillsFan Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 2 1 16 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 Any game would be a "really good game for Von to become Van again." I hope I'm wrong, but I do not see it happening this season. 5 hours ago, Simon said: I think you're just one game early We hope! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 maybe close but he'll never be what he once was, imo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Quint Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 2 hours ago, Herc11 said: It seems like Von's only move is the speed rush, which isn't working. Sorry, but last thing we need is Von and his deep rushes allowing huge lanes for Hurts to run. My thought exactly. He and Epenesa both do it too much, but Epenesa is still agile enough to work back down sometimes and make plays on the edge after going upfield. Haven't seen that with Von yet this year, and Hurts needs to be contained. Having a spy on him will help contain, but it will also open up passing lanes against our already weak secondary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionallyUnstable Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 (edited) First game without the brace, IIRC. We’ll see but I won’t be holding my breath Edited November 25, 2023 by EmotionallyUnstable 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 Agree, this would be a great time for Von to be Von again I'm sure the brace was limiting some even if it was just reminding him that the knee still isn't full go. While this is exactly the type of game we brought him in for and pre injury I would expect him to turn it up to his playoff level notch, I still think we are a couple weeks away. KC or Dallas games is where I've been thinking we see Von back to his Von-ness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Your Brown Eye Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 10 minutes ago, EmotionallyUnstable said: First game without the brave, IIRC. We’ll see but I won’t be holding my breath I hope he's brave tomorrow. I really do not want to see a cowardly Miller running around out there 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 There have been 0 indicators that Von is on the verge of making any sort of impact. Watching him last week, he couldn't even beat anyone on the Jets putrid OL. Instead he kept trying to "speed rush" and would end up 5 yards past the QB. I'd rather Von play a heck of a lot less this week because that type of stupidity will leave Jalen Hurts running lanes to gash us on the ground. 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TampaBillsJunkie Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 Von be Von. Josh be good Josh. Cook be cooking. Steph be Steph again. Dodson light up PFF. The whole team needs a big wakeup on the road and has to bring their best. Everyone needs to take it up a notch. The season is literally on the line. You want to go to the big dance, beat the best. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JESSEFEFFER Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, ChanticleerBillsFan said: There might be something real about this, I heard Sal (?) say on a Philly (?) podcast that Von was to wear that knee brace for a full year post surgery. It may be coming off soon. He may be more brave without the brace.😉 Edited November 25, 2023 by JESSEFEFFER Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillMafia716ix Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 I’m not counting on anything from Von until next year. I still don’t think he’s fully confident in his knee. He’s still wearing a knee brace. Only move he has right now is the straight ahead speed rush. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills!Win! Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 This will be a good preview of what the Super Bowl would look like if we actually made it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 (edited) Von has 2 tackles for the season. Gabe and Mitch have 3. Pulling for Von but I dont see any reason for him to be out there. Edited November 25, 2023 by nedboy7 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerBillsFan Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 7 hours ago, John from Riverside said: They have been carefully bringing him along on a snap count the weeks now we need for our pass rush to the elite in order to beat the Eagles Come on von I seriously doubt Von will become von again. Unfortunately this may go down as one of the worst FA signings amd contracts beane does. I hope I'm wrong. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 Obviously it comes down to how he physically feels after the season, but I wonder if he retires. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Since1981 Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 (edited) NFL is a game of attrition at this point. Never thought much about it but makes you wonder. Beane GM could look at stats and invest different for least injured positions and be a competitive advantage Edited November 25, 2023 by Since1981 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnNord Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 8 hours ago, John from Riverside said: They have been carefully bringing him along on a snap count the weeks now we need for our pass rush to the elite in order to beat the Eagles Come on von Everyone is frustrated with Von. Instead of being the “closer” he’s now struggling to beat 3rd string tackles one-on-one. Like we saw with Tre, it sometimes takes a defensive player a full season after they return to get back to their old form. I wouldn’t be surprised if we see don’t see flashes of “the old Von” until next season 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobills404 Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 This would be a great week for him to be inactive 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RunTheBall Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 The expectations for Von coming of an ACL were always ridiculous. I think you limit Von to 10 snaps a game or so and use him situationally so he can get some reps in and not hurt the team until he starts showing some burst. It’s up to the coaches not to put him in on critical downs or say, 3rd and short against Cinci to hold an edge against the run. Pure idiocy by McD. I think the best we can hope for is that if we make the playoffs he comes back to like 80% Von and can have some sort of impact. I’d expect if he’s going to return to form it won’t be until next year, and that’s a big if. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Dude Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 8 hours ago, John from Riverside said: They have been carefully bringing him along on a snap count the weeks now we need for our pass rush to the elite in order to beat the Eagles Come on von I would not count on it, watching him against the Jets he still is just trying to go too wide and not trying to bend with some push around tackles. That is because he does not have trust in that knee. I don't see this changing much from one week ago, it's going to take time. Even White struggled last season with the same type injury after returning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionallyUnstable Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 1 hour ago, Your Brown Eye said: I hope he's brave tomorrow. I really do not want to see a cowardly Miller running around out there Fixed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Grundy Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 I don’t think he’s cowardly. He just can’t seem to change direction very well yet. It seems a pity to play him now. He can run powerfully in one direction and that’s all. It’s not quite enough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dickleyjones Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 None of us know where von can get to but if there is a chance for him to make an impact this season, he must play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RG Murdock Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 Miller's a sweet talking charlatan. All his rah-rah talk gets old when you never deliver. First he was going to return for the playoff's (last year). Then be ready for the Season opener, then for game five. If anything he's regressed. He must think we all fell of the turnip truck. Actually some here have... Miller states "He's unabashedly constantly positive". Just admitting that tells you you need to ignore him... One of the worst signings in team history. He'll probably get his first sack in a garbage time game after the Bills are eliminated. Likely against the Patriots scrubs. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 Von doesn't want to become Von again. That's the problem. He's making 20 million a year to go through the motions. He doesn't need to do anything. And he isn't gonna give a sh*t if he's released either. The dude wins either way lol 1 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillies Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 17 minutes ago, dickleyjones said: None of us know where von can get to but if there is a chance for him to make an impact this season, he must play. Can't we wait until he shows he can make an impact in practice? I would bet there are drills they could do to simulate game action. Not sure why he has to so slowly figure out what he's got left while taking up a spot on the field. It's like we're playing with 10 out there. He literally doesn't do anything. I would take any other option over him right now, until he proves it in practice. Hope I'm wrong this week, but I haven't been the last 6 weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 1 hour ago, EmotionallyUnstable said: Fixed he’s not cowardly, it’s up to our coaches to assess where he is in his rehabilitation and put the best guys out there on the field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 2 hours ago, BillMafia716ix said: I’m not counting on anything from Von until next year. I still don’t think he’s fully confident in his knee. He’s still wearing a knee brace. Only move he has right now is the straight ahead speed rush. Which, without pressure up the middle, is putting him 10 yard behind the QB when he rushes. If someone (Joseph maybe?) could get a push up the middle, Von will get much closer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikePJ76 Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 Watching him rush to the tackles outside shoulder and the tackle then just walking him 3 yards behind the quarterback is depressing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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