John from Riverside Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 If he makes it through the season with no contract, we’re probably going to lose him By all accounts, he has been lights out in this camp like literally one of the best players on the field 11 1 3 8 3 3 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 You think he should get an extension since he's looked good this early in TC? I'd say wait and see for now 7 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 20 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: If he makes it through the season with no contract, we’re probably going to lose him By all accounts, he has been lights out in this camp like literally one of the best players on the field Davis has been hyped up for several years now. After last season, I have to see Davis perform at a higher level as the WR2. I am not particularly encouraged by the TC hype. 1 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 Doesn't benefit them to do it now. 7 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Fischer Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 I'm in the "I trust Beane et al and cool with whatever they do." 5 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted August 10, 2023 Author Share Posted August 10, 2023 (edited) I get the reservations, the not being able to stay healthy thing on the ankle is definitely supportive of that I’m just saying if he has a great year he’s gone they are paying ridiculous money to wide receivers Edited August 10, 2023 by John from Riverside 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 28 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: If he makes it through the season with no contract, we’re probably going to lose him By all accounts, he has been lights out in this camp like literally one of the best players on the field here’s where I see the challenge… you are likely expecting him to lock in a bit cheaper now. I do not forecast him to be remotely affordable today. what numbers are you envisioning, John? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 Gotta see him stay reasonably healthy first. That's my biggest reservation. The only way I see it making sense is if it's a low guarantee deal that gives him incentives. However, I wouldn't think that would appeal to him...just my guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 No 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 4 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: I get the reservations, the not being able to stay healthy thing on the ankle is definitely supportive of that I’m just saying if he has a great year he’s gone they are paying ridiculous money to wide receivers He's missed 2 games in 3 years. Last season He played 17 of 19 games, nearly 1000 yards and 8TDs. He must play very well when hurt... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 Has there been a training camp that he didn’t look great? The problem is that his hands turn to butter when the regular season starts. 2020 2021 2022 4 2 2 2 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 Let him walk. I don’t think you can pay a WR2, 11-15 mil a year when you have Josh, diggs and Knox locked up, not too mention you just traded up to get Kincaid in the first. Draft one in the early rounds next year and have him cost control for the next 4-5 years 6 10 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Douggie Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 Dude sux, let him walk next year 1 2 7 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 You don't give big contracts to WR2. Not if you are wanting to compete for SuperBowls while paying a QB. You draft a replacement. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maine-iac Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 I think Davis is great, hope he plays great all year this year. That said he's going to demand way more than we have to pay him. Let him showcase himself and help us win a SB and Shakir or Shorter can take over outside when Davis gets his payday. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 (edited) Ask people around here and the answer is no way. He could have an All Pro season and a large portion of the fans of this board would want him to walk. That said, there seems to be a large disconnect in what those fans think of him and what Brandon Beane thinks of him. Beane has talked about wanting him back and being a long term member of this team dating back to before this offseason (in which he's mentioned it multiple times). If he truly feels that way and can get him under an Oliver like deal for a WR now (aka a decent number, but not amongst the top paid for his position) - it might behoove him to do so rather than wait and possibly lose a gamble if he plays to a level that would make him extremely overpaid in FA next year. Edited August 11, 2023 by BillsFanForever19 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akcash Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 I am down with it but... I feel it's up to what's Davis is feeling. If he more wants to stay with us and keep it going I think it would work out good. But if that's the case he'll be capped at like $12 million a szn. And if he plays really good it could get awkward if hes grossly underpaid. I feel like I'd be happy if he has a year similar to last year and goes over 1000 yard and signs a 4 year deal with us at $12 mil a year. I would do that deal right now but I feel like its gotta play out so we don't underpay him then he has a wr1 season this year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 That contract year thing is a major motivator for these guys, why deprive us of that? Why not see if he can show some consistency? Why not see if the Wish version of Sammy Watkins can keep his foot from imploding for an entire season? Has he learned to catch? Can he create any separation without the OL needing to keep the pocket clean for 8seconds? But other than that, fire up the Brinks truck!! 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 Depends on the price tag. I think there could be a big difference between what his current value is compared to what it could be if he blows up. I’d sign him to a multi year deal 12M aav with 16M gtd contract over the first 2 years. It’s a risk of his feet are injured again, but the low gtd money limits the risk. that said, I don’t think he’s sign that contract. He’ll make a good amount more if he has a great season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 It always comes down to salary, I'm a big Davis fan yet you can't pay everyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionallyUnstable Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 He’d be a great #3 option. We need another real playmaker. The only way I say Gabe comes back on a second contract is because Kincaid pans out to be a true stud and receiving threat, and Gabe takes a smaller deal 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strive_for_five_guy Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 1 minute ago, EmotionallyUnstable said: He’d be a great #3 option. We need another real playmaker. The only way I say Gabe comes back on a second contract is because Kincaid pans out to be a true stud and receiving threat, and Gabe takes a smaller deal If Kincaid pans out as a true stud already this year, I see that lessening the chances of the Bills signing Gabe. Davis won’t and shouldn’t take a smaller deal just because someone else is really good. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted August 11, 2023 Author Share Posted August 11, 2023 54 minutes ago, Saint Douggie said: Dude sux, let him walk next year May your 40th post be better 1 hour ago, NoSaint said: here’s where I see the challenge… you are likely expecting him to lock in a bit cheaper now. I do not forecast him to be remotely affordable today. what numbers are you envisioning, John? That is a very good question. The answer is I don’t know. I just assumed that it would be cheaper now then if we waited till the end of the year. The truth is, we don’t know how the bills feel about him. I’ve got the sneaky suspicion that the bills love him. But they love Tremaine Edmunds to 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 I'm a Davis fan but you can't pay everyone. He's nowhere close to a top 15 WR but some team will pay him that. His agent would be foolish to take a lesser deal. Win a SuperBowl, let him walk, get a comp pick. Draft OT, safety, WR next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 I would guess he's closer to getting traded than an extension 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDingus Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said: Doesn't benefit them to do it now. Sure it does. The benefit is you save money if he has a monster year. If you wait until after that happens, he's going to command a lot more money than had you signed him now. So sure, you can say "wait & see," but just know that at the point you do see it, it's already too late. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, BigDingus said: Sure it does. The benefit is you save money if he has a monster year. If you wait until after that happens, he's going to command a lot more money than had you signed him now. So sure, you can say "wait & see," but just know that at the point you do see it, it's already too late. I'd rather lose Gabe if he has a 1 great year after several less than great years than overpay him and be saddled with an overpaid less than great player. Edited August 11, 2023 by FireChans 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 I love what I'm hearing about him at training camp, but let's wait and see if he can keep over a 60% catch percentage through the first 5 games or so before we think about extending him. Even then I might be inclined to let him walk next year. We're going to be tight against the cap for the next few years so we need to reserve our big money contracts for true proven difference makers. If Kincaid makes a big impact from day one, that lessens the need to pay a WR2 big money. So let's just wait and see where it goes from here. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 1 hour ago, newcam2012 said: Davis has been hyped up for several years now. After last season, I have to see Davis perform at a higher level as the WR2. I am not particularly encouraged by the TC hype. Newcam, on this point we agree. Sure he had a an ankle issue last year and maybe that inhibited his success last year. But I’d want to see it at least for the first 8 games and maybe do an in season contract if he turned finally into a 1100 yard receiver. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airseven Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 Overpaying Davis now, on a cap-strapped roster, in case he has a good season is inane. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 1 hour ago, BillsFanForever19 said: Ask people around here and the answer is no way. He could have an All Pro season and a large portion of the fans of this board would want him to walk. Yeah because it's the fans fault that he dropped the second most passes in the league, had the lowest catch rate of any highly target player in the NFL, an abysmal 80 passer rating when thrown to and has had recurring foot problems for all 3 years of his career. The reasons why he is polarizing are entirely justified by what's taken place on the field. Pretending like it's an exaggeration to say he's been inconsistent/disappointing and that it wouldn't even matter if he played at an All-Pro level because fans are just picking on him is idiotic. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AuntieEm Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 42 minutes ago, strive_for_five_guy said: If Kincaid pans out as a true stud already this year, I see that lessening the chances of the Bills signing Gabe. Davis won’t and shouldn’t take a smaller deal just because someone else is really good. I don't get the sense it's all about money with Gabr. I think he'll want to stay here and will take a team friendly deal that still gives him a nice pay bump though not as much as some teams will offer him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 I would be all for an extension if the price is right but it just likely won’t happen, the Bills are not gonna commit high WR2 low end WR1 money to Gabe and I doubt Gabe who with a good season can get big money is going to take a discount to stay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AuntieEm Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 7 minutes ago, Airseven said: Overpaying Davis now, on a cap-strapped roster, in case he has a good season is inane. Agree and I think he will have a great year with Allen and all the weapons we have. I think he is well aware that Josh makes it look easy and that many wr will do well catching passes from Allen. I think he will opt to stay and the Bills will offer him a fair raise. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 I'd rather talk what will it take to get Marvin Harrison Jr😎 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 Tag if he has a good year and let him and his agent know they plan on tagging him ahead of time. Let his agent tell Bills what they would consider for an extension this year. There is not space for a high priced QB and TE and WR for a very high priced WR2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Limeaid said: Tag if he has a good year and let him and his agent know they plan on tagging him ahead of time. Let his agent tell Bills what they would consider for an extension this year. There is not space for a high priced QB and TE and WR for a very high priced WR2 The franchise tag for him next year would be about 20 million, if not higher. There is no way the bills will risk tagging him, as Gabe would hold all the leverage when working on an extension Edited August 11, 2023 by BillsFan130 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDingus Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 47 minutes ago, FireChans said: I'd rather lose Gabe if he has a 1 great year after several less than great years than overpay him and be saddled with an overpaid less than great player. I would too. I'm just saying that there actually is a benefit to extending him now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 I'm definitely in that camp unless he shows no improvement, which I doubt Hopefully lock him in for a good contract to pair w Diggs for 3+ years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airseven Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 No pending UFAs are worth extending at this point. The priority may become DaQuan Jones. And here’s hoping Rapp earns his keep. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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