Pine Barrens Mafia Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 Don't disagree with the top 10 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 What was it last year? It’s hilarious how much people loved Davis last year and now he’s a bum. pretty good list. Washington is too high. Chicago did a great job remaking a trash group. Jags could be higher. Wonder how some bills fans will discount Mahomes if he does awesome wirh this group (Rice could be a stud). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 (edited) Think the Cowboys, Commanders, 49ers, Jags, Bears and Jets are too high. Bills, Saints, Ravens, Colts and Lions too low. Edited May 8, 2023 by GunnerBill 2 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 Hard to argue against the idea that the Bills are not in the top 10. As much as I love Diggs he disappears at times. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heavy Kevi Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 I would prob rank us 5 or so spots higher, but I'm not going to argue. Gabe had an ok year, but many were expecting a meteoric rise and that just plain did not happen. The new TE isn't going to move the needle in WR rankings. We've got some intriguing young players but none that have shown anything amazing just yet 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 The Bills are too low. They aren’t top 10 though. It isn’t that insulting. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 5 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: The Bills are too low. They aren’t top 10 though. It isn’t that insulting. Agree. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corta765 Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 Why are people upset? This is pretty accurate. Heading into last year the unit had more unknown but positive feelings on the WR corp as Gabe looked unreal in the post season ready to take the next step and McKenzie had some big games that also feel that way plus Crowder/Shakir were thought to be ready for the slot. Now we unfortunately know Gabe isn't a true WR2 and more a WR3 type guy, they realllyyy need a slot guy with Beasley gone but they are expecting that from Kincaid, and Shakir while showing promise needs to do more and the only other additions are lower intrigue FA guys. Their certainly not bad, but after Diggs they currently have a lot of WR3/4/5 esq guys and they need to hope someone elevates to a WR2 spot or the group itself elevates. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 Until proven otherwise Bills are pretty much a one man band at WR. He’s not wrong 3 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 (edited) Ranking the WR’s is fine, but leaving out the TE’s (and pass catching RB’s) hurts the meaningfulness. I think the Bills and Chiefs would look very different if we included all the pass catchers. I’m sure others could argue the same. It’s the offseason, so it’s a fun little exercise I guess. . Edited May 8, 2023 by Augie 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YattaOkasan Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 Agree with a lot of the thoughts: Bills too low but not top 10. Would add that considering how much production Allen has with our WR you have to have him super high on QB rankings. Def ahead of Burrow considering their weapons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickelCity Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 What's the problem here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 I’d take our WRs in 2023 over the saints and bears 💯 Other than that, it looks about right to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 It's not a big deal because it's not far off. We have a bona fide #1 elite WR and the rest is suspect. It's not about the individual, it's about the whole offense. Where did the Bills rank in Passing Offense? Bet it was Top 5. How many of those teams above the Bills didn't make the post season? Quite a few.. Mike Clay's opinion, nothing more. And BTW, his opinion sucks 😂 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 10 minutes ago, YattaOkasan said: Agree with a lot of the thoughts: Bills too low but not top 10. Would add that considering how much production Allen has with our WR you have to have him super high on QB rankings. Def ahead of Burrow considering their weapons. That's always been the thought related to Allen and the receivers. He has shown to do more with less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 That’s a lot of respect for Seattle - maybe by mid season we can say this but I’d have them lower. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 Baltimore and Chicago are the only ones I would argue about. After Diggs there is a very large drop. After Davis there is a very large drop. I don’t think the Bills did enough at WR but we’ll see. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 Until Gabe Davis proves he is more than last year, the new guys and Shakir prove to have roles they can handle, and Kincaid shows he is more of a Big Slot WR than a TE, Bills receiving unit isn't going to get a ton of love from the media or outside opinions. Still graded too low IMHO, but I also don't have an issue with it. More importantly, the team at 26 is also the reigning SB champs...so this list don't mean a whole lot anyway. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 I’m not too upset with Buffalos rank. I would put Vegas and Minnesota a few pegs down. Outside the star there’s not much on their groups either I would definitely move jacksonville into the top 10 and Chicago up a few. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julian Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 32 minutes ago, BuffaloBill said: Hard to argue against the idea that the Bills are not in the top 10. As much as I love Diggs he disappears at times. Diggs isn’t the reason this collection of WRs are ranked this low, if not for him it would be bottom 3-5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDubya76 Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 What’s a Mile Clay? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GETTOTHE50 Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 the jets wide outs are grossly overrated. the steelers should be above them and in the top 15. pickens is going to be a top 10 wideout soon if he isnt already. the bills are whatever thanks to regular season gabe, the most inconsistent number 2 in the nfl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 41 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: The Bills are too low. They aren’t top 10 though. It isn’t that insulting. If anyone can be insulted it's the Jags. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Fan Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 33 minutes ago, Augie said: Ranking the WR’s is fine, but leaving out the TE’s (and pass catching RB’s) hurts the meaningfulness. I think the Bills and Chiefs would look very different if we included all the pass catchers. I’m sure other could argue the same. It’s the offseason, so it’s a fun little exercise I guess. I think that would be a fun ranking...include all skill position players for a "best [passing team" ranking get ir done! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msw2112 Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 I don't put a whole lot of stock in what some third-party thinks of the Bills' personnel and these types of lists are completely subjective. That said, just to play along, I think the Bills are ranked too low. I'd put them in the 12-15 range, and I think that after playing with Josh Allen, Harty and Sherfield will have much better stats, Shakir will improve by having another season under his belt, and with some better OL play, the Bills passing game would improve overall. If Kinkaid lines up in a slot WR position, do those snaps count as WR snaps or TE snaps? The same question would apply to all teams (and to RBs lining up as WRs, such as Cook or Hines). Whether or not TEs and/or RBs would be included, I think the Bills will rank higher on THIS chart a year from now. Also, I think the Bills will have one of the top 5 "passing games" if you include TEs and RBs. I realize that the Bills RBs have not been much of a part of the passing game in recent years, but I'm optimistic that this will change this year. Dorsey will have a full season under his belt, Allen won't have an injured elbow that causes pain on short passes, and Cook and Hines will have had more time and experience with the team so that they can be better integrated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro Nimbus Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 Is this another "Buffalo gets no respect!" post?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 Gabe Davis will rebound and Shakir is more experienced. Kincaid is a pseudo-WR and a great addition. I think they are gonna be better than what the media thinks (which I could really care less.) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L Ron Burgundy Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 Man I just imagine what Josh would do with top 5 weapons. That's why I hate when he gets compared to Burrow and Mahomes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goin Breakdown Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 IF we all agree with this list (it's probably not too far off), it just goes to show now much this team relays on Josh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Italian Bills Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 Unfortunately, till now, BB didn’t land what everybody here hoped for: OBJ (gone), or DHop (almost gone). Be honest guys, we desperately wanted one of those two in Buffalo, but the blockbuster didn’t happen. Imagine this offense with DHop: unreal ! In this list we would be easily top 2, number one to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 1 hour ago, Kirby Jackson said: The Bills are too low. They aren’t top 10 though. It isn’t that insulting. Diggs........a top end #3 in Gabe..........and a bunch of dudes WE like because we expect the upside........but in reality.......extremely low floors and even lower pedigrees. Their ranking is fair, IMO.........they certainly wouldn't be in a top 20. McBeane have let their fastball go to hell the past couple seasons. Hopefully Kincaid becomes good enough to make the actual "WR" room much less important. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ControllerOfPlanetX Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 At least we are better than KC at something.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 We might have the best TE room in the league- definitely top 5 imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffBillsForLife Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 Where is the lie? I could move Buffalo up to like 16 because Diggs is great but after him it's a wasteland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Rc2catch said: I’m not too upset with Buffalos rank. I would put Vegas and Minnesota a few pegs down. Outside the star there’s not much on their groups either I would definitely move jacksonville into the top 10 and Chicago up a few. See I am totally anti this. Minnesota I kind of take the point. Addison is unproven. But Vegas has Adams, Jakobi Myers who is absolutely legit and Renfrow who is a reliable slot. The Bears have DJ Moore who is good not great, Darnell Mooney who has been a #1 on a bad offense (and as we know from Stevie Johnson the jump from there to a regular contributor on a better team is significant) and Claypool was was a washout in Pittsburgh. As for Jacksonville.... a lot of hope in Ridley who broke 1,000 yards once in 3 seasons (all as a #2, drawing 2nd best corner) and then has hardly played in 2 seasons otherwise Christian Kirk is an elite slot, but that's a slot receiver all the same and Zay Jones. Hardly scary. I at least see the potential there if Ridley comes back and is legit but that is a BIG if in my book. Edited May 8, 2023 by GunnerBill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 1 minute ago, GunnerBill said: See I am totally anti this. Minnesota I kind of take the point. Addison is unproven. But Vegas has Adams, Jakobi Myers who is absolutely legit and Renfrow who is a reliable slot. The Bears have DJ Moore who is good not great, Darnell Mooney who has been a #1 on a bad offense (and as we know from Stevie Johnson the jump from there to a regular contributor on a better team is significant) and Claypool was was a washout in Pittsburgh. As for Jacksonville.... a lot of hope in Ridley who broke 1,000 yards once in 3 seasons (all as a #2, drawing 2nd best corner) and then has hardly played in 2 seasons otherwise Christian Kirk is an elite slot, but that's a slot receiver all the same and Zay Jones. Hardly scary. I at least see the potential there if Ridley comes back and is legit but that is a BIG if in my book. Totally fair assessment. I’m banking on Pederson and Lawrence being able to elevate them. Renfrow is one of my favorite players, for some odd reason though the Vegas coach loves his big sets and in the few games I watched took Renfrow off the field a ton so he could have his tight ends and fullback out there. I even seen them do it in obvious passing downs. I would like their group much more with a different coach lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billz4ever Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, BuffaloBill said: Hard to argue against the idea that the Bills are not in the top 10. As much as I love Diggs he disappears at times. I don't disagree, not top 10, but #20? I just don't see it. Josh doesn't put the numbers up last year that he does with a bunch of bums and I think they've improved this season, even though not by a huge amount. If you add TEs to the equation, I think the Bills crack the top 10 or are right on the border. Edited May 8, 2023 by Billz4ever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Defense Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 Sounds about right. Beyond Diggs last year there was no receiver that defenses had to be particularly concerned about. I could safely say almost no slot receiver, they hardly used Shakir though he looked good when out there, and how many vital catches or games did Davis have? Kincaid, the use of Shakir, and the two new guys could all make a significant difference this year. Ditto for the use of the running backs in both the running and passing game (yup, that is what they are there for, Ken...). But how many fans could actually have confidence that they will be used correctly or effectively by Dorsey? He better be working his kiester off, and working with more experienced coordinators this off season to change that perception. If not, even if the Bills had the best receiving corps in the NFL, it would be on paper only. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st&ten Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 3 hours ago, GunnerBill said: Think the Cowboys, Commanders, 49ers, Jags, Bears and Jets are too high. Bills, Saints, Ravens, Colts and Lions too low. I agree but the Bills will move up the list when we roll out our new tight end & other receivers we signed this off season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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