No criminal charges against Araiza

[BillsFanSD]

4 minutes ago, wagon127 said:

They didnt cut him cause they thought he was guilty. They cut him cause they wanted him to focus on the trial, and thought that he wouldnt be able to focus on football. 

Oh come on.  They cut him because they didn't want to deal with busybodies in the media who rushed to judgement.  

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Thing about it. He technically still was innocent until proven guilty. Because he was so close to this situation, he no longer gets the millionaire job. He gets no jail time, but has to get a regular job like the rest of us.

Can I have a million dollars?  If it's really not that big a deal, then you shouldn't mind tossing me a spare million.  

 

On the other hand, if you wouldn't voluntarily part with a million dollars, then it's kind of gross to hand-wave somebody else being robbed of that.

[GolfandBills]

9 minutes ago, Ta111 said:

Hopefully he gets a chance somewhere. He deserves it.

Yeah i hope so too.  I bet he will now that no charges are being filed 

[T master]

3 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

Glad he can resume his life and career. 

 

But can he now given what he has been accused of ? I can bet the Bills won't bring him back & i can't say i would blame him if they did ask & he said no to them .

 

Guilty until proven innocent ...

Edited December 7, 2022 by T master

[Buffaloflash]

3 hours ago, Dr. K said:

No. They decided they couldn't prove it in a court of law. 

No, they decided that the complaint, wasn't Rebecca from Sunnybrook farm.

[Sargent Hulka]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-11514061/Ex-Bills-punter-Matt-Araiza-NOT-face-criminal-charges-alleged-2021-gang-rape.html

[BringBackFergy]

Wait…whaaaaa?

[HOUSE]

Wow, interesting 

[Freddie's Dead]

Punt God Beats the Rap.  Film at 11.

[Blank Stare]

Where have I seen this before?

 

[TC in St. Louis]

Civil suit appears to be next.  We have a pretty good punter right now.

[boyst]

1 minute ago, TC in St. Louis said:

Civil suit appears to be next.  We have a pretty good punter right now.

For one year

 

I'd love him back next year. I'd love the meltdown from the righteous pitchfork crew. 

[boyst]

4 hours ago, Boatdrinks said:

Headed for PPP? 

Shouldn't be. Just because children get in the way of adults talking does not mean it should be banished 

4 hours ago, eball said:

I'd hold off on making any proclamations one way or the other until it is known what happens in the civil suit.

 

DeCreep Watson wasn't criminally prosecuted yet still paid a lot of money because of his creepism.

 

Now, if the civil suit is dropped without a payment the kid (Araiza) should certainly be given a 2nd chance at a pro career.

 

How about we get a real legal opinion here from an armchair judge Judy? 

 

But yeah. The next chapter is the most interesting. I'm curious if a team adds him to their PS.

3 hours ago, Herb Nightly said:

Why? Martin has been just fine. I dont think Araiza comes back to Buffalo.

Not with McD being the B word he was toward this. 

[SydneyBillsFan]

Errr....."get 'er done Beane"?

🥺

[RiotAct]

whoa, that’s completely Off the Wall!!!

[Mij yllek]

Exactly as I predicted...Duke Lacrosse team 2.0. This presumed guilty crap needs to end.

[Mopreme]

Bills never should have cut him.  He was never charged!  Guys like Kamara are caught on tape beating the crap out of someone and he is still playing. Double standard. 

[extrahammer]

Just so we're all clear, the victim's attorney literally ruined her case because he's maniacal. 

[SCBills]

Understand why the FO did what they were forced to do, but what an awful (and predictable) circumstance. 
 

I’d be shocked if Araiza is able to get his career back.  
 

Excited to hear all the WGR personalities and Bills podcasters who smoked an Araiza pack for clout address this development….

 

Suspect I’ll be waiting a while. 

[Captain Hindsight]

2 hours ago, Doc said:

 

And have it hang over them until now?  No, they handled it the best way they could.

Exactly. Bills 100% did the right thing by the Bills. No organization is going to deal with a distraction like that from a punter

[Warcodered]

 

[White Linen]

1 hour ago, TC in St. Louis said:

Civil suit appears to be next.  

 

I wonder if he'll get anything.

[Sammy Watkins' Rib]

I'd be fine with Ariza trying out again with the Bills this off-season. No reason to bring him back before the season is over though.

[Punching Bag]

5 hours ago, RiotAct said:

or, they have suspicions that he did something but don’t want to waste taxpayer dollars for a trial that will almost certainly end with an acquittal. 

 

Guilty by accusation is cheaper than having charges dismissed in court.

[78thealltimegreat]

6 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

Here we go again. No, he didn’t. He admitted to sleeping with her. He didn’t know she was underage, there are witnesses that say she was telling everyone she was in college, and in CA that’s defensible toward it not being a criminal offense 

There is actually a video of her saying she’s 18 too 

[Doc]

3 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said:

There is actually a video of her saying she’s 18 too 

Not that that was necessarily needed. No one believes that she claimed to be 17. 

[ExiledInIllinois]

6 hours ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said:

 

Or, hear me out, there wasn't enough evidence to press charges.

 

Because it was botched from the get go. Too much at stake in a University part of town... Police told the university to stand down... Well that's what was said at first. System protects these guys.

[PrimeTime101]

i seriously would sign him and dump this punter in a HEART BEAT. the guy is still punt god that can help you turn the field.  Bring him back.

[boyst]

3 hours ago, extrahammer said:

Just so we're all clear, the victim's attorney literally ruined her case because he's maniacal. 

The attorney was a civil attorney.

[QCity]

6 hours ago, BullBuchanan said:

And this comment right here is why the world is in the awful state it is.

 

What "awful state" is that exactly? You mean where a man can have his life ruined in the court of social media with only an accusation?

[JoPoy88]

1 hour ago, PrimeTime101 said:

i seriously would sign him and dump this punter in a HEART BEAT. the guy is still punt god that can help you turn the field.  Bring him back.

Wish in one hand and s*** in the other. It’s never happening.

[BullBuchanan]

1 hour ago, QCity said:

 

What "awful state" is that exactly? You mean where a man can have his life ruined in the court of social media with only an accusation?

And an admission of statutory rape.

[GunnerBill]

7 hours ago, UKBillFan said:

 

There was a big debate in the UK at one point whether those accused of rape or sexual assault should be named whilst investigations are taking place (for other offences, they are not until brought to trial).

 

This is not correct. For any criminal offence in the UK you are liable to be named once you are charged. The argument on sexual assault is should the accused be named given that the alleged victim now has a right to anonymity which remains beyond trial, even in cases where the accused is acquitted. 

 

Given my new role I have to be a little more careful than before about what I say in public fora about elements of UK justice policy, but my views on the slight wrong turn we have made in turning the criminal justice system into what I describe as the victim justice system are well known even on these boards. A lot of well-intentioned policy pursued by Governments of both colours for reasons that are understandable but have ultimately left us with a less objective, more emotionally-charged and ultimately more flawed system. 

Edited December 8, 2022 by GunnerBill

[JoPoy88]

22 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said:

And an admission of statutory rape.

that’s simply not true according to California law but yet you keep pushing it. 
 

i don’t know what happened, just like you don’t know. Yes, on one of the context calls he admitted to sexual contact with the accuser. Doesn’t mean he’s guilty of statutory rape in California. 

[Buffalo_Stampede]

Another reason why all sexual assault cases should be sealed unless criminal charges are filed. No names should be released. 

[Buffalo Barbarian]

The team released him as a PR move so they wouldn't look bad, they should have waited to see what the legal system did. There is not a punter even close to his level and i would bring him back in a heartbeat. And yes we do punt and consistently putting teams deep ever time would be worth it.

 

 

[LeviF]

3 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said:

The team released him as a PR move so they wouldn't look bad, they should have waited to see what the legal system did. There is not a punter even close to his level and i would bring him back in a heartbeat. And yes we do punt and consistently putting teams deep ever time would be worth it.

 

 

“So we won’t look bad” is actually a good reason to do anything as a billion dollar company. 
 

[wagon127]

14 hours ago, BillsFanSD said:

Oh come on.  They cut him because they didn't want to deal with busybodies in the media who rushed to judgement.  

Can I have a million dollars?  If it's really not that big a deal, then you shouldn't mind tossing me a spare million.  

 

On the other hand, if you wouldn't voluntarily part with a million dollars, then it's kind of gross to hand-wave somebody else being robbed of that.

The girl still left his house, bruised and bloodied. They just cant prove anything since everybody was wasted.

[Dr. K]

14 hours ago, Buffaloflash said:

No, they decided that the complaint, wasn't Rebecca from Sunnybrook farm.

Do you have a daughter?

[The Red King]

Like I said, and this thread outright proves it, he was still found guilty in the court of public opinion.  Bringing him back would be no less a PR nightmare.

 

Guilty until proven innocent.

[Big Turk]

10 hours ago, QCity said:

 

What "awful state" is that exactly? You mean where a man can have his life ruined in the court of social media with only an accusation?

 

Plenty of men have spent a decade or more in prison for crimes they never committed due to this type of crap. Sometimes they are proven innocent by DNA evidence, but sometimes because the witness admitted they gave false testimony...in once case it was because she admitted she "was mad" at the guy in jail and claimed he raped her.  Could you imagine?  Dude sits in jail for 15 years and only gets out because a new defense attorney starts taking a deeper look and noticing the inconsistencies of the statements the accuser made, but only once she is questioned again does she admit they were lies...she would have happily let that man sit in jail the rest of his life and just pretended it didn't happen! Probably never even apologized to him for it.  Of course she doesn't go to jail because the statute of limitations had ran out. And even if she did, what is she going to get? 3 months?

Edited December 8, 2022 by Big Turk