Inigo Montoya Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 What we know This is the first week that Tre is eligible to come off of short term PUP list and start to practice with the team. From the time Tre comes off PUP and starts to practice, the Bills will have 21 days to activate him to the regular roster or he will have to be placed on season ending IR. McDermott was asked yesterday about Tre's status and he essentially gave no answer except that Tre continues to work to get back. What we suspect Even if Tre is 100% right now I would be shocked for him to lace it up against the Steelers this week due to the matchup. The Bills secondary should be able to hold up against the Steeler's offense without Tre in there this week. The big question is, will they play him the following week vs the Chiefs in Arrowhead. It would obviously be a big boost to have him back on the field for that pivotal matchup with plenty of playoff seeding consequences for the Bills. If the Bills don't play him in Week 6 versus the Chiefs, Tre will then have an additional week to rehab with the bye week in Week 7 and will have to be activated before the Week 8 tilt on Sunday night against the Packers at home. This might have been the plan all along. When he comes back he will likely be on a snap count and alternating time with Elam and Jackson as he plays back into form. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jletha Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 My ideal situation is him coming off PUP today, and then getting two weeks to practice before playing on a limited basis for the Chiefs ahead of the bye. 3 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 May or may not be popular, but I'm not playing Tre until after the bye, against Green Bay. From what I understand, once you reach a certain time period, the chance of re-injury stays stagnant... doesn't really improve with more time off. I'm not sure where he is in relation to that, but he's too important to rush back and call me crazy, but I have a lot of confidence in a secondary of Poyer-Hamlin-Johnson-Jackson-Elam. More important, imo, is to get Davis, Oliver and Phillips right for the Chiefs game - if possible. 13 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Matter_What Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 My wild uneducated guess is that we will be happy if he plays against GB. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 No need to rush Tre' back. Let that ACL fully heal and save him for the stretch run and the playoffs. GB is fine if you want to bring him on after the bye. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 With the way the secondary is playing, they may as well give him some extra time. I'd just wait until after the bye week. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsflyer12 Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 1 minute ago, No_Matter_What said: My wild uneducated guess is that we will be happy if he plays against GB. I to am starting to feel like it will be later then most think. Not ruling out he doesn’t play at all or very little this season. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clayboy54 Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 Just now, SCBills said: May or may not be popular, but I'm not playing Tre until after the bye, against Green Bay. From what I understand, once you reach a certain time period, the chance of re-injury stays stagnant... doesn't really improve with more time off. I'm not sure where he is in relation to that, but he's too important to rush back and call me crazy, but I have a lot of confidence in a secondary of Poyer-Hamlin-Johnson-Jackson-Elam. I agree that our existing secondary as it is can be more than adequate for the season. Tre is icing on the cake if and when he comes back 100%. It's not the re-injury risk for me, but rather the <100% performance-related drop off. Right now, Tre at say 80% may be worse than what we currently have on the field. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramza86 Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 I think if we NEEDED to win maybe he comes back after this week. If you ask me. Hell be back after the bye week. Get back to 100% by the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 26 minutes ago, Inigo Montoya said: What we know This is the first week that Tre is eligible to come off of short term PUP list and start to practice with the team. From the time Tre comes off PUP and starts to practice, the Bills will have 21 days to activate him to the regular roster or he will have to be placed on season ending IR. McDermott was asked yesterday about Tre's status and he essentially gave no answer except that Tre continues to work to get back. What we suspect Even if Tre is 100% right now I would be shocked for him to lace it up against the Steelers this week due to the matchup. The Bills secondary should be able to hold up against the Steeler's offense without Tre in there this week. The big question is, will they play him the following week vs the Chiefs in Arrowhead. It would obviously be a big boost to have him back on the field for that pivotal matchup with plenty of playoff seeding consequences for the Bills. If the Bills don't play him in Week 6 versus the Chiefs, Tre will then have an additional week to rehab with the bye week in Week 7 and will have to be activated before the Week 8 tilt on Sunday night against the Packers at home. This might have been the plan all along. When he comes back he will likely be on a snap count and alternating time with Elam and Jackson as he plays back into form. Good points but if a player is 100% and has practiced, he should play 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DapperCam Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 I hope he plays this week on a snap count and is ready to go for KC. Obviously the most conservative approach is best though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krf139 Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 McDermott has been silent with updates on this situation and the media have done a very poor job (as they did with 13 seconds) getting answers. Leaves me to believe there might be more going on with this situation (and a potentially longer timeline) than we’d like to think 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 The prudent plan is to active him right before the Packers game and slowly ease him in to playing time. Any other strategy would probably carry more risk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtVandalay Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 You play him when he's ready. You don't hold him out longer or rush him back. If he's ready he's ready and you play him. KC game is a playoff game and may very well determine #1 seed. 2 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yall Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 37 minutes ago, Billsflyer12 said: I to am starting to feel like it will be later then most think. Not ruling out he doesn’t play at all or very little this season. I said this a week or so ago. An unpopular opinion to be sure, but I continue to hear rumblings around OP that his rehab is not going well. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordong Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 I'd like to see him come off the pup list sooner than later but I don't care if he plays until later... give him as much time as he needs plus more. getting him back for the playoffs would be a huge add. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 5 minutes ago, ArtVandalay said: You play him when he's ready. You don't hold him out longer or rush him back. If he's ready he's ready and you play him. KC game is a playoff game and may very well determine #1 seed. This should be the default post on every injury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsflyer12 Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 1 minute ago, yall said: I said this a week or so ago. An unpopular opinion to be sure, but I continue to hear rumblings around OP that his rehab is not going well. I’ve sensed since about week 2 of training camp that maybe he had a set back. He was at Fischer at first, some comments from team were initially somewhat positive. Then it all just went quiet and he was largely out of sight then. Just a hunch of mine since early August. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 If the Bills exercise caution when dealing with things like hamstring injuries to prevent reoccurrence or worsening that are far less serious than an ACL, you can bet they will be exercising an abundance of caution to make sure he is 100% ready to go and not putting him at any extra risk. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quinnearlysghost88 Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 1 hour ago, Inigo Montoya said: What we know This is the first week that Tre is eligible to come off of short term PUP list and start to practice with the team. From the time Tre comes off PUP and starts to practice, the Bills will have 21 days to activate him to the regular roster or he will have to be placed on season ending IR. McDermott was asked yesterday about Tre's status and he essentially gave no answer except that Tre continues to work to get back. What we suspect Even if Tre is 100% right now I would be shocked for him to lace it up against the Steelers this week due to the matchup. The Bills secondary should be able to hold up against the Steeler's offense without Tre in there this week. The big question is, will they play him the following week vs the Chiefs in Arrowhead. It would obviously be a big boost to have him back on the field for that pivotal matchup with plenty of playoff seeding consequences for the Bills. If the Bills don't play him in Week 6 versus the Chiefs, Tre will then have an additional week to rehab with the bye week in Week 7 and will have to be activated before the Week 8 tilt on Sunday night against the Packers at home. This might have been the plan all along. When he comes back he will likely be on a snap count and alternating time with Elam and Jackson as he plays back into form. Honestly he has to come back for KC if he’s ready. We’re in a race for home field and can’t afford to go into KC short handed. That’s almost a must win if we want to not be playing KC in January. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 If he can play, get him in there against the Steelers. Let him get his feet wet again before the KC game. 1 hour ago, Billsflyer12 said: I to am starting to feel like it will be later then most think. Not ruling out he doesn’t play at all or very little this season. Based on what? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 I think the smart money is on Tre returning in front of a raucous home crowd on Sunday night, October 30, vs. the Packers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 I already forgot that Xavier Rhodes is on this team lol. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 2 hours ago, jletha said: My ideal situation is him coming off PUP today, and then getting two weeks to practice before playing on a limited basis for the Chiefs ahead of the bye. This would be ideal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 Just now, Royale with Cheese said: I already forgot that Xavier Rhodes is on this team lol. Didn't he injure himself signing the contract? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 I see lots of people arbitrarily wanting White to start later on. He should play when he's ready, you can put him on a snap count and I think that would make sense so that his body gets used to actual football movements but there is no reason not to play him if he's ready. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritBill Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 I’d love to have him back for KC but want him back with plenty of practice in and ready to go. GB after the bye is fine with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 2 hours ago, SCBills said: May or may not be popular, but I'm not playing Tre until after the bye, against Green Bay. From what I understand, once you reach a certain time period, the chance of re-injury stays stagnant... doesn't really improve with more time off. I'm not sure where he is in relation to that, but he's too important to rush back and call me crazy, but I have a lot of confidence in a secondary of Poyer-Hamlin-Johnson-Jackson-Elam. More important, imo, is to get Davis, Oliver and Phillips right for the Chiefs game - if possible. Against Mahomes? I know we have some different players, but we did not fare well against them in the playoffs and that was with both Poyer & Hyde. Then again, it really doesn’t matter who we have back there if Oliver, Phillips, Von, and Rousseau are hitting on all cylinders. I have to disagree. White needs to at least see the field at limited capacity for probably the most important game of the regular season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 3 minutes ago, billsfan1959 said: Didn't he injure himself signing the contract? That's what age does to you. I sneezed the other day and it put so much stress on my body, I had to sit down to collect myself. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBear Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 Yeah, the lack of any word on his status is a bit alarming. Given the complete radio silence, it's hard to imagine we'll see him in the next two weeks. Just hoping we see him on the field at some point this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 2 hours ago, ArtVandalay said: You play him when he's ready. You don't hold him out longer or rush him back. If he's ready he's ready and you play him. KC game is a playoff game and may very well determine #1 seed. I’m all for playing him.. when he’s ready. The KC matchup is a big one , but it’s not a playoff game. As we know, the Bills won @ KC last October but it didn’t determine the #1 seed. There’s just too much season remaining. If the game was in say, mid December it very well could. 43 minutes ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said: Against Mahomes? I know we have some different players, but we did not fare well against them in the playoffs and that was with both Poyer & Hyde. Then again, it really doesn’t matter who we have back there if Oliver, Phillips, Von, and Rousseau are hitting on all cylinders. I have to disagree. White needs to at least see the field at limited capacity for probably the most important game of the regular season. The KC game will be about the Bills offense and their DL/ pass rush. At least that’s what the Bills coaches/ GM think , based on their off season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 51 minutes ago, Beast said: If he can play, get him in there against the Steelers. Let him get his feet wet again before the KC game. Based on what? Agree with you here. If he's ready then he's ready. I don't know if he might have any "rust" to knock off, but if he does then imo it's good to go ahead and get it out the way 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 I think it’s unbelievable how quiet it’s been around Tre White. Probably good news. I’m sure they’ve been filming his rehab and will do a Bills embedded on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locomark Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 I was always positive GB was the timetable but I just get the spidey sense now it’s going to be much longer. I’m wondering if he isn’t coming back closer to Thanksgiving. Hope I’m wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBaumer Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 1 minute ago, Locomark said: I was always positive GB was the timetable but I just get the spidey sense now it’s going to be much longer. I’m wondering if he isn’t coming back closer to Thanksgiving. Hope I’m wrong. If he is not back for the Kansas City game, I don’t care if he comes back until the playoffs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 6 minutes ago, BuffaloBaumer said: If he is not back for the Kansas City game, I don’t care if he comes back until the playoffs If White misses the KC game, I’d prefer he gets a few games in before the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen2D̶i̶g̶g̶s̶TBD Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 I think he comes back after the bye week at the earliest. No need to rush him considering Jackson and Elam are playing well. Tre will need a couple weeks of practice once he's cleared by our doctors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 Even if he doesn't come back this week he might start practicing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 How about we all just concede that the Bills org knows what kind of health Tre is in much more than we do. If he is ready and healthy, he will likely play. personally if his knee is good, I’d get him practicing right away, keep it slow, keep it limited. And use him in game situations all the same, until he is ready and in football shape and able to start and play all game again. If his knee was fine right now I’d get him in there and suited up for Sunday. Don’t play him unless you have more injuries, or until we’re up by a few scores. Then sprinkle him in to get his legs under him again. A lot of his injury I’d imagine is going to be his confidence he’ll have being able to trust that it’s not going to be any issues going forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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