Billsfan1972 Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 Know this is a day or two old, but makes me see red http://www.espn.com/video/clip/clip?id=34683404 https://www.espn.com/video/clip/_/id/34690041 Maybe I'm unfair when talking about Lamar and see Josh Allen with Rose Coloured Glasses, but to me right now it isn't close as to which QB I'd want. 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwistofFate Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 Lamar is having a great season thus far. The praise is justified. He's still going to lose though and go bills. 7 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billz4ever Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 Nothing but click bait and red meat for the homers. If your choice for MVP has changed 4 times in 3 weeks like these people's have, they need to explain to me why I should listen to a single thing they have to say. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 Don't care about MVP. Care about #1 seed. 6 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan1972 Posted September 30, 2022 Author Share Posted September 30, 2022 How did all three choose Lamar though? Usually it's supposed to be a debate with one taking the other side. Here was unanimous? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushypeaches Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 It will change after this stat line 14/29 - 156 - 1TD - 3INT 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkeerie Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 14 minutes ago, TBBills said: Don't care about MVP. Care about #1 seed. I'd rather Josh have Super Bowl MVP. 4 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 Lamar should be talked about as an MVP so far. He catches hate for only being a runner, and now he’s not only running but making all the throws as well.. What more would anyone want to see to have him in the conversation? Its early things can always change but he absolutely should be in the conversation and I wouldn’t be upset if people had him as the favorite so far. 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 The only MVP talk I want to see is for the SB. Aarons last imo was Platitudes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downunderbill Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 The MVP vote will swing a lot in the early part of the season, until the true pecking order works itself out. He certainly deserves to be in the conversation and considered among the favorites. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 Lamar is having a good season so far. They've been talking about him "having a better year than his MVP season" the last couple of weeks. Florio, ESPN, all of them. 15 more weeks to go and a lot of football left to be played. If we get the #1 seed and Josh puts up good numbers then he'll likely get it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 13 minutes ago, Rc2catch said: Lamar should be talked about as an MVP so far. He catches hate for only being a runner, and now he’s not only running but making all the throws as well.. What more would anyone want to see to have him in the conversation? Its early things can always change but he absolutely should be in the conversation and I wouldn’t be upset if people had him as the favorite so far. Lamar looks like good passing QB’s because of blown coverages when they over pursue him to keep him contained. Tua has been throwing long high arc passes also because of blown coverages. Hell, I might even say something about Burrow and his 50 yard deep passing his short game looked bad Thursday night 5 minutes ago, downunderbill said: The MVP vote will swing a lot in the early part of the season, until the true pecking order works itself out. He certainly deserves to be in the conversation and considered among the favorites. The MVP leader has to really mess up to lose that top position IMO. All the contenders will bounce between 2 - 5 th place in voting 🗳️ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SF Bills Fan Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 I could care less abut Josh for MVP talk and I bet Josh Allen could care less too. The only thing that matter is the Ws and the trophy. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 The players will still vote for him as MVP even if sacked and knocked out for season. Bills are short Defense Linemen. They ought to sign Trent Murphy for the game and Lemur will find a reason to not play. https://www.buffalobills.com/video/highlight-trent-murphy-trips-up-deshaun-watson-for-third-down-sack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loveorhatembillsfan4life Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 Josh outplays or as good as Lamar and the teams seals the deal with a win..that would probably go along way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 Lamar is playing out of his mind. He deserves the talk. As does Josh. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 I think i’ve heard more Jalen Hurts MVP talk than even Lamar. But both are talked about more than JA that’s for sure. I guess that Miami loss took Josh out of the equation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 1 hour ago, TBBills said: Don't care about MVP. Care about #1 seed. Those two things typically go hand in hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 Lamar is just a glorified Tyrod Taylor guys. I learnt that heer 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 No idea how people don't like Lamar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 Lamar Jackson, the 2019 MVP, should not be in the 2022 MVP conversation after 3 games but Josh Allen should? …..is this part of the concussion fallout thread? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 Lamar is right there but I'd still give the slight edge to Josh. Josh has a much better team around him. Lamar's RB's and WR's are meh and their D is bad. By that metric you can easily make the case for Lamar as more valuable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uninja Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 Say what you will about him he’s out there turning lemons into lemonade with that team. Guy can ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in STL Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 MVP talk in week 3 is kind of crazy. Play the games and see what happens first. Part of these awards are political anyway. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 In a few weeks it will be Pat. M, then after that back to Rodgers. The MVP talk will change from player to player as the season goes forward Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills2022 Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 Lamar didn't show up in the 4th quarter of the Dolphins game. If he had, Miami would never have gotten the ball back over and over and he might be in the MVP discussion. There is a love affair with Lamar and certain members of the media. The reality is that the MVP right now is 1) Jalen Hurts 2) Josh Allen. The rest are really not in the discussion. Hurts and Allen have the passing stats, the rushing stats and the quality wins. Lamar has the rushing stats. That is it. He is not even top 15 in passing and he does not have a single win over a good team. Jalen Hurts is the MVP right now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 I see this is going well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills2022 Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 14 minutes ago, I am the egg man said: Lamar Jackson, the 2019 MVP, should not be in the 2022 MVP conversation after 3 games but Josh Allen should? …..is this part of the concussion fallout thread? Why would Lamar be in the MVP discussion? Hurts and Allen dwarf him in terms of accomplishments. Lamar is not even close. That could change after this week, but right now Lamar is not even in the discussion except with talking heads on tv. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDingus Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 6 hours ago, Billsfan1972 said: Know this is a day or two old, but makes me see red http://www.espn.com/video/clip/clip?id=34683404 https://www.espn.com/video/clip/_/id/34690041 Maybe I'm unfair when talking about Lamar and see Josh Allen with Rose Coloured Glasses, but to me right now it isn't close as to which QB I'd want. If I were you, I'd hope 99% of these "talking heads" are right, as they also likely predicted Bills winning the Super Bowl. If Lamar wins MVP & Bills win the Super Bowl, I'll take that 10 times out of 10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickelCity Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 I just care about the Bills winning the Super Bowl. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 Lamar accounts for 86% of the Ravens offensive production. Josh accounts for 83% of the Bills. I believe those are tops in the NFL, can't confirm though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 11 hours ago, eball said: Lamar is playing out of his mind. He deserves the talk. As does Josh. Agree. Lamar has been excellent. I think Bills fans have a real bee in their bonnet about Lamar. It seems to trigger them. I think that is because they have been writing him off for 2 and a bit years since his MVP season and he keeps playing well. Of course I wouldn't swap Allen for Jackson. But newsflash.... other teama have good QBs as well. It is as if certain Bills fans have to believe every other QB sucks for Josh to be great. Which is crazy. Josh's ability is independent of anything else and he shows it almost every Sunday. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKBillFan Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 1 hour ago, GunnerBill said: Agree. Lamar has been excellent. I think Bills fans have a real bee in their bonnet about Lamar. It seems to trigger them. I think that is because they have been writing him off for 2 and a bit years since his MVP season and he keeps playing well. Of course I wouldn't swap Allen for Jackson. But newsflash.... other teama have good QBs as well. It is as if certain Bills fans have to believe every other QB sucks for Josh to be great. Which is crazy. Josh's ability is independent of anything else and he shows it almost every Sunday. I think it’s also because there’s an element of a victim complex from Bills fans towards the media over Josh. That every error and mistake he makes is magnified whilst it’s overlooked with other quarterbacks. Whether that’s fair or not is up to debate, but I think that’s why there is an attempt to criticise, in some cases overly, other quarterbacks who are doing well - because there’s a feeling they’re waiting to come down heavily on Josh but not many others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 mvp chatter 4 weeks in. meh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 14 hours ago, SF Bills Fan said: I could care less abut Josh for MVP talk and I bet Josh Allen could care less too. The only thing that matter is the Ws and the trophy. It's couldn't care less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan1972 Posted October 1, 2022 Author Share Posted October 1, 2022 Just posting something I read and yes there is victimhood when it comes to Josh Allen. And isn't there a mvp thread elsewhere here? I just thought how quickly the narrative changed was a little bit surprising. I don't worry at all about the mvp just about Josh Allen being the best player in the league. And yes watching these makes Sunday's game just a little more "personal". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 15 hours ago, Billsfan1972 said: Know this is a day or two old, but makes me see red http://www.espn.com/video/clip/clip?id=34683404 https://www.espn.com/video/clip/_/id/34690041 Maybe I'm unfair when talking about Lamar and see Josh Allen with Rose Coloured Glasses, but to me right now it isn't close as to which QB I'd want. This is one of those weird, insecure, old-Bills posts that I thought we were beyond? It was the same with Mahomes in the past. It is okay for multiple people to be phenomenal. Lamar being good doesn’t mean that Josh is bad. We don’t need to downplay his historical accomplishments to prop up Allen. His play speaks for itself. These guys are both elite players and we all should appreciate watching them play the game that we all love. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 Meh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 2 hours ago, GunnerBill said: Agree. Lamar has been excellent. I think Bills fans have a real bee in their bonnet about Lamar. It seems to trigger them. I think that is because they have been writing him off for 2 and a bit years since his MVP season and he keeps playing well. Of course I wouldn't swap Allen for Jackson. But newsflash.... other teama have good QBs as well. It is as if certain Bills fans have to believe every other QB sucks for Josh to be great. Which is crazy. Josh's ability is independent of anything else and he shows it almost every Sunday. Nah, Bills fans like and have liked other QB's for a long time. I think it's pretty simple. Lamar was given the benefit of the doubt when he wasn't passing well by the media and Josh wasn't. Not by all, Josh had some believers, but no where near the love affair of Lamar. It's because of that, that Bills fans are soured on the guy. Not all, not all, not all but most. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCofNC Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 Thus far, Lamar is the MVP, he’s done it all. The guy is playing lights out. Josh is on his heals, overall IT’S 3 GAMES IN TO THE SEASON, chill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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