billsfan89 Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 I hope whatever happens the truth is found out and justice is served. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattymafia Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 6 minutes ago, Dick_Cheney said: Fairly confident this is a crime in itself. If the phone call of him is what it sounds like, he's toast. It sounds like he said that more because she had sex with multiple people at one party. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 (edited) 1 minute ago, John from Riverside said: Really not approp My comment or his that this stuff happens at every high school or college party? Edited August 26, 2022 by Beast 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 Just now, Matt_In_NH said: The phone call info is pretty damning......I am not sure this guy will be a Bill. I do think the phone call right now is based on their account of it, they don't have the recording(the police obviously do). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountDorkula Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 1 minute ago, Alphadawg7 said: I will wait for the full story before I react or form some sort of judgement. Clearly, if he is guilty of this, he is done and should be done and face criminal charges. But as bad as it looks on the preliminary story, there is still the fact it didn't come out sooner, the Bills may have had prior knowledge and did their own research, and there is not yet a criminal charge...so let's see how this plays out before we decide the outcome. I mean the school not cooperating and trying to hide it might have something to do with that…. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 11 minutes ago, Beck Water said: He was 21. Did she tell him she was 17? She could have said she was older 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo44 Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 wonder what warhow (spelling) will say? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awwufelloff Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 Get him off this team. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 1 minute ago, Alphadawg7 said: I will wait for the full story before I react or form some sort of judgement. Clearly, if he is guilty of this, he is done and should be done and face criminal charges. But as bad as it looks on the preliminary story, there is still the fact it didn't come out sooner, the Bills may have had prior knowledge and did their own research, and there is not yet a criminal charge...so let's see how this plays out before we decide the outcome. Well, in terms of public perception, 27 pages in two hours should give you an indication... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. K Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 Ugly ugly ugly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick_Cheney Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 (edited) 1 minute ago, Mattymafia said: It sounds like he said that more because she had sex with multiple people at one party. Ahhh, so he's a rapist with a conscience. Edited August 26, 2022 by Dick_Cheney Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 Just now, Awwufelloff said: Get him off this team. Seriously. Hes a ***** punter. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Beast said: The article says the two other named suspects have attorney's. Araiza must also have one. At least you would think so. How could the Bills not know about this? They do. They did. And they did their own investigation. And he's still on the team despite having a competent alternative. They get the benefit of the doubt right now from me because I have no doubt they'd cut him if they felt he did something wrong. Something happened with the girl no doubt. But there seems to be a lot more to this - that as of right now and I don't know maybe in an hour they cut him - but as of right now this organization owned and ran by a female in deciding what do with a punter who while potentially awesome is still a freaking punter that we can replace and forget he ever existed......he's still on the team. That tells me we probably need to let this play out. Edited August 26, 2022 by Big Blitz 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKBillFan Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 Just now, CountDorkula said: I mean the school not cooperating and trying to hide it might have something to do with that…. Being from the other side of the pond, I don’t know how the college would have the power to limit and restrict a police investigation? The police themselves being corrupt and protecting famous (local) athletes I can understand, but the college being able to hold things back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo44 Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 Just now, Awwufelloff said: Get him off this team. Or let the truth play out, even with as bad as it initially looks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToGoGo Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 Just now, Turbo44 said: wonder what warhow (spelling) will say? He'll say whatever it takes to get his Pulitzer prize. Just the other day he was trying cause a scandal based on lack of female artists playing on the speaker during practice. 1 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 40 minutes ago, stevewin said: If for some reason he is not released right away, while this plays out at a minimum it has got to result in some real awkwardness in the locker room - and also possible distraction. Players and coaches being asked at PCs about the accused rapist punter.... geez If he isn’t released I think the Bills try and keep themselves away from punting and have Keenum/Barkley holding. He should be released. None of this is worth it. I think he should be charged with a crime. Even if innocent it’s not worth it to have him on a roster that’s trying to go to the super bowl. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 Just now, CountDorkula said: I mean the school not cooperating and trying to hide it might have something to do with that…. Where do you get the school was not cooperating? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 1 minute ago, Big Blitz said: They do. They did. And they did their own investigation. And he's still on the team despite having a competent alternative. They get the benefit of the doubt right from me because I have no doubt they'd cut him if they felt he did something wrong. Something happened with the girl no doubt. But there seems to be a lot more to this - that as of right now and I don't know maybe in an hour they cut him - but as of right now this organization owned and ran by a female in deciding what do with a punter who while potentially awesome is still a freaking punter that we can replace and forget he ever existed......he's still on the team. That tells me we probably need to let this play out. Why do you assume the Bills knew before cutting Haack? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy1 Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 29 minutes ago, RaoulDuke79 said: It willtellsomeofthestory. You can have sex with someone and not rape them. There will be a lot of pieces to this puzzle that tell the stor. He is 21, she was 17. That is a problem and a crime. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 4 minutes ago, Mattymafia said: you guys got money? @HOUSEis loaded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Beck Water said: Jesus, WTF are you getting at? IF the allegation is true, would it somehow make it better if it's common? You’re the 2nd person to comment about this general statement. I was responding to a statement about how Araiza brought her to his friends for their turn. It’s common behavior. It’s sickening and gets covered up everyday. Edited August 26, 2022 by Buffalo_Stampede 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKBillFan Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 1 minute ago, Beck Water said: Where do you get the school was not cooperating? Allegation from the victim’s attorney. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmart128 Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 Just now, Rocky Landing said: Why do you assume the Bills knew before cutting Haack? Because they said they did a thorough investigation... and the girls lawyer said the Bills knew about it for awhile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKBillFan Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 1 minute ago, Rocky Landing said: Why do you assume the Bills knew before cutting Haack? Because this was in the public domain a month ago. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steel City Mafia Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptide Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 The article says, she got on her knees and performed oral on him, how would she have been passed out? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemma Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 1 minute ago, ColoradoBills said: @HOUSEis loaded. He found his wallet? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awwufelloff Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 From Schefter.... Bills’ rookie punter Matt Araiza has been accused along with two others of gang raping a 17-year-old girl last year in a civil lawsuit filed on Thursday. The lawsuit involves allegations against three current and former San Diego State football players, including Araiza -- who starred for the Aztecs last season. The other men named in the complaint are Zavier Leonard, a redshirt freshman at San Diego State, and Nowlin Ewaliko, who was a freshman last season but is no longer on the listed roster. The lawsuit accuses Araiza, 22, of having sex with the then-high school senior outside at an off-campus party before brining her inside a room where she was repeatedly raped, according to The Los Angeles Times. The lawsuit states that the minor went in and out of consciousness but remembers moments as the men took turns assaulting her, according to the Times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 Regardless of how this goes, they have to at least bring another punter into the fold don't they? Lachlan Edwards? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 (edited) He will immediately be signed by the Browns and be welcomed with open arms Edited August 26, 2022 by Sheneneh Jenkins 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 42 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: A bunch will be cut next week. I think league rules mandate we dress a punter. We will have him tomorrow. He likely won’t hold. And the Bills will go for it on 4th whenever possible. Then they’ll sign the best of the cuts from camp. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 1 minute ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: You’re the 2nd person to comment about this general statement. I was responding to a statement about how Araiza brought to his friends for their turn. It’s common behavior. It’s sickening and gets covered up everyday. Maybe I had a different high school, and college experience. I don't remember any gang rapes at any of the parties I went to. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 Was it non-violent rape though? The nfl/nflpa is ok with that 🙄 Didn't read the whole thread so I'm sure I missed a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 Just now, Rocky Landing said: Why do you assume the Bills knew before cutting Haack? Because they issued a statement saying "we recently learned......we did our own investigation and as of the nature of this situation are not issuing any comment." Don't you think if they just learned about this they'd currently ..... be saying nothing about their own investigation? . Plus, this was REPORTED in late July. This wasn't asked of Araiza since? No one thought hey, we may need to ask Matt if he was aware of this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 If the kid is guilty his life is essentially over. I would just let this case play out his attorney is denying all these charges. Its so easy to play judge jury and executioner I just realize Brian Banks was convicted by a jury and sent to federal prison and the only way he cleared his name was to run his own sting operation…but still his career was essentially over. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBills1998 Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 5 minutes ago, Buffalo03 said: Did she tell him she was 17? She could have said she was older But can he/does he have proof that she lied about her age?? Without that proof especially these days your dead in the water. Even if he pleads guilty to statutory rape I don’t see how Buffalo could keep him. This is a distraction we don’t need 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 33 minutes ago, Beast said: His body isn't even cold yet. LOL It's a cold business. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 1 minute ago, Steptide said: The article says, she got on her knees and performed oral on him, how would she have been passed out? It says that act happened outside and she was then brought inside to a room everything else happened and she claims she lost consciousness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattymafia Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 1 minute ago, That's No Moon said: Regardless of how this goes, they have to at least bring another punter into the fold don't they? Lachlan Edwards? 100% this dude is not punting this weekend or week 1. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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