MasterStrategist Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 Just now, Pasaluki said: Nah not for a punter. A punter isn't valuable enough to be patient with. I could care less about it being Araiza, or the water boy. It's about doing the right thing for the individual, let more info come out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 1 minute ago, Steptide said: Lots of people on Twitter calling to cut him immediately. Not sure what to think I'm going to do the prudent thing and reserve judgement until more facts come out. A few years ago the Bills had a player who was accused of sex crimes in the off season (I think it was peeping tom) & it turned out he was completely innocent. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
716er Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 Just now, Malazan said: *if* the Bills knew and they should have known.. this is bad. The investigators hired by NFL teams are not slouches and an active police investigation is not hard to find. They have made a very large blunder for.. a punter. Guilty or innocent, this was a bad move for the Bills and they need to get a lot of information very quickly. If it looks like he was involved, they need to make the right decision very quickly and give a good explanation to the fans. FWIW the “punt god” was passed on by two other teams who chose punters. Makes you wonder. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 Good news…if this was going to happen to any starter, punter would be at the top of the list. Bad news…not a good look for a team with a female co-owner/team president. My guess is that come game time tomorrow, he will be an ex-Bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
716er Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 Just now, L Ron Burgundy said: No. What if it turns out to be bs? Need more detail. Then he signs with another team. He’s a punter. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steel City Mafia Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 Duke Lacrosse scandal . Never know https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duke_lacrosse_case 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemma Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 1 minute ago, Beck Water said: Yes, marks were shown although the Halloween costume was blurred out But it's still a question: who put the bruises there? I don't like the idea that in this day and age, it can be 10 months between an alleged sexual assault crime and only just now are decisions being made about charges. But I also don't like the idea that in the absence of criminal charges, the mere filing of a lawsuit causes people decide guilt and call for immediate consequences. I think I read that the city of Portland hasn’t even evaluated rape kits for years due to lack of personnel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBear Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, 716er said: Cut this moron and don’t look back. He’s a freaking punter and we barely punt. I generally hate the idea of rushing to judgement, but I agree with you. This is not a story the Bills want hanging over them heading into a very promising season. Cut him and if this eventually gets dismissed in his favor, then you can circle back and re-sign him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 3 minutes ago, Turbo44 said: From the article, it seems the civil suit was only filed cuz the police were dragging their feet on the criminal case. This totally works to her benefit though and I am very happy that it does. Had this been public back in October, Araiza would have never of been drafted. Now she can go after his rookie bonus/gtd money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, K-9 said: All potential draft picks are investigated by both league and team private investigators during the draft process. I’m confident the Bills did their due diligence given the information available at the time. My concern is that information was less than candid and reliable. This. There's also the point that even if the Bills decided there was no evidence of a crime, there can still be league consequences. For example, the Bills investigated Tyrell Dodson and concluded he was not guilty of domestic violence, which is why they signed him. But Dodson was still suspended for 6 games by the NFL after he pled guilty to misdemeanor disorderly conduct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airseven Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, Chicagobills said: What happened to innocent until proven guilty? Social media, public opinion, tribal pressure, cancel culture, victimhood, self-righteousness, greed, et al. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 Lots of posters here must feel pretty secure in their career to just call for people to be fired within five minutes of hearing about an allegation. 6 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 22 minutes ago, Beck Water said: Where does this "more than 3 years older than her, it's a felony" come from? Alleged victim 17, Araiza 21, so yes, more than 3 years but this source says not typically felony From this--it's been posted 3 times already.... 21 minutes ago, wppete said: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewookie1 Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 Well this certainly isn't good; although is she angling for money due to the fear of not winning a criminal case? Seeing as a civil case is easier to achieve restitution with than a criminal case. Why was his college sitting on it for 10 months? Well, I guess we should start working out some more punters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkirchofer Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 1 minute ago, Beck Water said: This. There's also the point that even if the Bills decided there was no evidence of a crime, there can still be league consequences. For example, the Bills investigated Tyrell Dodson and concluded he was not guilty of domestic violence, which is why they signed him. But Dodson was still suspended for 6 games by the NFL after he pled guilty to misdemeanor disorderly conduct. But for a team and a front office that likes to preach culture, that they would draft someone with this type of accusation floating with an ongoing criminal investigation is dissapointing to say the least. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
716er Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 Just now, SCBills said: Lots of posters here must feel pretty secure in their career to just call for people to be fired within five minutes of hearing about an allegation. What is the benefit of having an an accused rapist barely punt when a person who was not accused of rape can also barely punt? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 1 minute ago, Beck Water said: This. There's also the point that even if the Bills decided there was no evidence of a crime, there can still be league consequences. For example, the Bills investigated Tyrell Dodson and concluded he was not guilty of domestic violence, which is why they signed him. But Dodson was still suspended for 6 games by the NFL after he pled guilty to misdemeanor disorderly conduct. It would be impossible for the Bills to conclude at this time that there is no evidence of a crime. The DA hasn't concluded that yet. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 3 minutes ago, Beck Water said: Yes, marks were shown although the Halloween costume was blurred out But it's still a question: who put the bruises there? I don't like the idea that in this day and age, it can be 10 months between an alleged sexual assault crime and only just now are decisions being made about charges. But I also don't like the idea that in the absence of criminal charges, the mere filing of a lawsuit causes people decide guilt and call for immediate consequences. His attorney feels pretty confident about his witnesses and there are witnesses at the party. If she was drunk and also given a drug her memory could be very spotty unfortunately. That’s the problem in general with these types of cases. Often times they can be he said she said which doesn’t bode well if there was a rape and no physical proof. Matt could have had sex consensually and she could have been rapes in the room. on the exempt list until it’s sorted out and cut if he is charged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OZBILLS Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, SCBills said: Lots of posters here must feel pretty secure in their career to just call for people to be fired within five minutes of hearing about an allegation. I'd be out on my ass the minute this was alleged 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 3 minutes ago, Steel City Mafia said: Duke Lacrosse scandal . Never know https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duke_lacrosse_case women dont deserve slut shaming and mean dont deserve sentencing without due process. believe it or not, its possible for a person to value both sides of this coin 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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