John from Riverside Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 I think we made a mistake with this last year and it cost us in the Pittsburgh game Josh needs to be ready to start the season come game one 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 Yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 Needs the live reps. I'm sure Josh himself would say the same thing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patzen Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 I'd prefer he get the live reps because I think that's the best way to prepare for the season but if they chose to sit him I'd be OK with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillMafia716ix Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 New OC. New pieces. Gotta get some rhythm. No more than a series or two Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 No, unfortunately. He barely played in preseason last year and ‘Sugar High Josh’ showed up for the month of September. He, like every player, needs reps. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 12 hours ago, RocCityRoller said: even though it was Daboll to Dorsey, they need to install the new offensive concepts and get the new guys mixed in for timing and to realize the heat JA puts on those passes. In scanning these replies before I go any further, that was exactly my thought. I can see him playing only Q1, and then get long looks at Case as many snaps as possible as he needs just in case to know Dorsey’s system. This is the first preseason In interested in seeing them play as I want to see what Dorsey is like as a play caller. I know it will look vanilla. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochesterfan Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 If it is/was the same offense and terminology - I have no issues siting him, but with a new OC and several new offensive coach’s - I would like to see him get a couple of series to work on communication within game. Getting calls from the OC with real crowd noise, timing of the calls coming in, where the OC is comfortable (booth versus sideline) and how that impacts communication with JA. Work those things out with a couple of drives in pre-season - rather than finding out against LA that something does not work in the set-up and it costs you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 Whatever they think is best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 9 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said: But he was plenty healthy/rested at the end of the season when it matters. The last 2 games may have been the best 2 games of his career. Thankfully he didn’t incur an injury in preseason that put him out for a period of time or nagged throughout the year. The Bills were the healthiest team in the NFL last year. Some of that can be attributed to the preseason approach. Last summer, IIRC, he played in one game for a drive or two ?? BING BANG BOOM A TD drive like it was practice. Got my blood flowing. those HOT series may have given them an overconfidence. 🤷♂️ New Coordinator — new things (styles to try) even if Vanilla. 🤷♂️ Healthy and rested? That could be because of any number of reasons he put the nail on Sugar High Josh’s coffin. So, he wasn’t scrambling for his life He learned the game and was “relaxed” enough to not sweat it? 🤷♂️ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 8 minutes ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said: Last summer, IIRC, he played in one game for a drive or two ?? BING BANG BOOM A TD drive like it was practice. Got my blood flowing. those HOT series may have given them an overconfidence. 🤷♂️ New Coordinator — new things (styles to try) even if Vanilla. 🤷♂️ Healthy and rested? That could be because of any number of reasons he put the nail on Sugar High Josh’s coffin. So, he wasn’t scrambling for his life He learned the game and was “relaxed” enough to not sweat it? 🤷♂️ Everything is fine if he comes out completely healthy (and everyone else does as well). If you could GUARANTEE me that every Bills player would exit the preseason, without so much as a scratch, I’d be all for it. Play them the whole game. Health is infinitely more important than scrimmage reps. I’m not willing to risk it for even a small chance of injury to any key guys. This is Super Bowl or bust. Don’t make it any harder on yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 7 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: Everything is fine if he comes out completely healthy (and everyone else does as well). If you could GUARANTEE me that every Bills player would exit the preseason, without so much as a scratch, I’d be all for it. Play them the whole game. Health is infinitely more important than scrimmage reps. I’m not willing to risk it for even a small chance of injury to any key guys. This is Super Bowl or bust. Don’t make it any harder on yourself. With 3 games instead of 4, You got to make that tough choice Safe and Healthy or Unprepared and flat in the opener? I had a postponed COVID wedding event to contend with so I didn’t see the whole game. What I was was flat play on O. Maybe that’s all on Daboll ? Flip 1 of any of 3 games to a W and 1 seed was theirs for the taking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 7 minutes ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said: With 3 games instead of 4, You got to make that tough choice Safe and Healthy or Unprepared and flat in the opener? I had a postponed COVID wedding event to contend with so I didn’t see the whole game. What I was was flat play on O. Maybe that’s all on Daboll ? Flip 1 of any of 3 games to a W and 1 seed was theirs for the taking. Without the blocked punt, they win the opener. Josh slips in Tennessee or they win. The Jags game, I don’t even know what to say. There were a lot of games that could have went differently for that 1 seed. I guess that the way that I look at it is the risk isn’t there with a team this good. If the starters play a quarter in each game that’s 6 total quarters. If ANY of them go out for 6 or 8 weeks (or whatever) it wasn’t worth the 3 quarters that they got. It doesn’t just have to be Allen. I won’t name names because I don’t want to jinx them but there are a lot of guys that we can’t withstand that type of injury to. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 6 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: I thought it was pretty evident Josh played below par the first two games last season before looking like the Josh we saw in 2020 in week 3 against Washington at home… whether that had to do with reps or not who knows. It might have had to do with reps. I guess that I’m okay with a little rust in exchange for no risk of injury. Obviously there are injuries and reps in practice but you get the point. There’s no perfect answer. It’s personal preference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 Low risk offense, 1 quarter per pre season game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris heff Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 14 hours ago, RocCityRoller said: even though it was Daboll to Dorsey, they need to install the new offensive concepts and get the new guys mixed in for timing and to realize the heat JA puts on those passes. Isn’t that what practice is for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JROC INTEL Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 Sitting all of preseason is my definition of “getting cute” . From my time playing various sports, I have learned that even the most talented players need proper warm up and need to be in rhythm. We want the #1 seed and the first game is very important. He can sit when we clinch #1. That being said, he needs to be put out there on a very limited basis with play designs to keep him out of trouble. Shotgun get it out quick type plays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 13 hours ago, Augie said: Wait? Wait for what? Are we still waiting for him to get that punt off? That happened right in front of us, making me ill. Oh, the character we have built over the years…….this board is certainly full of character(s). No, I was waiting for the offense to do something. Everyone at that game was expecting fireworks and the offense did absolutely nothing almost the entire first half. Gee, I wonder why. Maybe because they didn't have the preseason to work out the kinks? And now there is a brand new playcaller and everyone thinks they should just skip the preseason again and roll into week 1 against the super bowl champs? Uhhhh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eee1776 Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 15 hours ago, Buffalo Boy said: Nope, looks like I’ve got free tickets front row behind the Bills bench for the Carolinas game with my boy. We both want to see us some JA close up. On the level though, after last years rusty start I believe he needs some reps to get his mind right, especially with a new OC in his ear. They don’t have to expose him to much danger but he does need some live reps. see you there 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 Run him till he pukes! 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 YES. The pre-season shouldn't exist; it's a waste of time. News Flash: these coaching staffs don't need a pre-season "game" to figure out who the best players are. I would have Allen sit the entirety of it. 16 hours ago, RocCityRoller said: even though it was Daboll to Dorsey, they need to install the new offensive concepts and get the new guys mixed in for timing and to realize the heat JA puts on those passes. Nah, that's just fan speak. Pre-season doesn't need to exist and only does so for money---nothing to do with football development. They are doing all those things for hours and hours all summer long. The players already know how hard Josh throws the ball (and a lot of the time the is no different than what they are used to anyway). 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 17 hours ago, Herc11 said: 1st game is the season opener, prime-time, against the SB Champs. You dont go into that game, with a new O-coordinator, not having some actual game-speed experience together. Despite the hype and excitement that surrounds that game, the outcome is one of the least significant of the season. I still play the 1st team offense some in the preseason but not because I’m worried about the rams game 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 18 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said: Listening to morning show and brought up about Allen and if he’s at that place where he doesn’t play at all in the preseason. How would you feel about it? No need because he’s at that level. Or, he needs live reps with being in his first year with Dorsey? He doesn’t need the game reps IMO. A series or two in the second game, a half in the third. What’s that get you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoMAn Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 (edited) He, along with all his teammates needs a taste or two of actual speed live action before the games start counting. He won’t experience the same intensity in team practice as he will in live action against an unfamiliar opponent with different defensive schemes than the one he’s been facing for the past 7 weeks. There are reasons golfers practice the driving range and putting green before hitting the links. if the concern is injury, well, I suspect the chances are greater coming into the season ‘cold’. For preseason games, he’d probably only see 3-4 quarters total. I believe he can survive that. Edited July 23, 2022 by SoMAn 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clayboy54 Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 Just play him in the final quarter of the final preseason game. This way all the bubble guys can say they “played with Josh Allen.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 4 minutes ago, clayboy54 said: Just play him in the final quarter of the final preseason game. This way all the bubble guys can say they “played with Josh Allen.” I wouldn’t put him out there with the 3rd string OL or anything but it would help to see all the fringe WRs play with him at some point. It’s a tougher evaluation watching them play with Matt Barkley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 19 hours ago, Buffalo Boy said: Nope, looks like I’ve got free tickets front row behind the Bills bench for the Carolinas game with my boy. We both want to see us some JA close up. On the level though, after last years rusty start I believe he needs some reps to get his mind right, especially with a new OC in his ear. They don’t have to expose him to much danger but he does need some live reps. you’ll see him up close, even closer if he’s on the bench!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 I'd like to see him get some action in game 2 maybe? Not sure how it works now with the shortened preseason..does game 2 become dress rehearsal for the season or is it game 3 still? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 2 hours ago, clayboy54 said: Just play him in the final quarter of the final preseason game. This way all the bubble guys can say they “played with Josh Allen.” I really don't want Bobby Hart and Luke Tenuta blocking for him. The first half with the starting offense line during the last preseason game like last year against the Packers. We didn't lose to Pittsburgh because of rust. We lost to them because they had a great defensive game plan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc11 Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 6 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Despite the hype and excitement that surrounds that game, the outcome is one of the least significant of the season. I still play the 1st team offense some in the preseason but not because I’m worried about the rams game In the grand scheme of playoff tie-breakers, you are correct. But, when it comes to the 1 seed, they all matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 On 7/22/2022 at 6:01 PM, Warcodered said: I'd say he sat the last game because that's typical, but I'm not sure with it going from 4 to 3, but he definitely didn't sit all of them. Last year was only 3 pre season games to I believe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 I’d be ok if Josh sits out the whole preseason but I don’t think Josh would be okay with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Red King Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 New OC, new personell. Honestly, I'd like to see him play, but only the opening drive each game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 I put yes, but I know he's not that type of player. He'll want to be out there and get some reps in, especially with the new WR's. And I'm fine with that too. I trust our staff not to put him in harm's way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCNC Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 Heck No. I'll be at the Panthers preseason game and I want to see him play! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 with new OC, has to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocCityRoller Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 On 7/23/2022 at 8:43 AM, chris heff said: Isn’t that what practice is for? I think it's helpful to see other defenses and play against another team to iron out wrinkles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 Him and Dorsey might want some reps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Super Fan Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 Yes I am good with sitting Josh Allen the whole preseason in my opinion. Go Bills! Let’s Go Buffalo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 If Daboll was still the OC then maybe but even then Josh should probably play a series or two just to shake off the rust. With a new OC and some new plays in the offense the starters should see some action this preseason. Have to see how things work in a real game. You can only do so much in practice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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