Tyrod's legacy?

[Bills fan since 87]

So on the Bills Mafia Facebook page somebody posted a recent pic of themselves with Tyrod Taylor.  I commented on how I appreciated his time here, wished him the best and was thankful he was a part of the end of the drought.  Immediately some one commented “you mean Andy Dalton”.  This turned into a back and forth where the other Bills fan went on to say how Tyrod was never clutch and proceeded to trash him.  In fact I was surprised by the amount of negative comments toward him from other posters (probably 60/40 good comments but still a lot of negativity) and it got me to thinking what is Tyrod’s legacy here in Buffalo?

 

Obviously, he is no Jim Kelly, Jack Kemp or even Joe Ferguson and most recently the savior Josh.  But to think of him as a bad player or to lump him with the likes Trent Edwards, EJ Manuel and Todd Collins seems ridiculous too me.  So what group would you include him in, again based on legacy?  He only spent three years here throwing 51 touchdowns and 16 interceptions.  Compare that to Drew Bledsoe’s 55 and 43 also in a 3 year span or Fitz’s 80 and 64 in 4 years and he really isn’t all that far behind.  In fact way behind on interceptions (as maddening as the checkdowns could be)

 

But how would we compare him to those two as a Buffalo Bill?  We all LOVE Fitz, his personality and how he’s stood by Buffalo.  Bledsoe had one fantastic and fun year here before fizzling out fast.  Is there a better QB to compare him too statistically and success wise over a comprable span with the Bills?

 

Tyrod was a gutsy player that, like so many others during and before the drought had NOTHING around him.  I remember a specific 3rd and 27 type play against the Titans where he ran for the first down before being horse collard into an injury at the plays end.  Dude gave it his all.  Is it fair to say his legacy is equal to Fitz when you consider the teams oh so modest success in his last year?

 

Im interested in what others might think.  How you will remember him and his tenure as a Bills quarterback ?

 

With all that said thankfully those days are all behind us now.  We have a stud  QB and Super Bowl aspirations.  However I’ve always been a Bills fan and I remember Tyrod’s time here fondly in context.  Maybe I’m way off?  Does the recent success distort the memories of those darker times?  Do you have any particulallry good or bad Tyrod Buffalo Bill memories?   Go Bills!

[Rigby]

I always thought he was better than some gave him credit for. Fondest memory was comeback win against the Bucs.

[NewEra]

He’s aight

[Gugny]

He was effin' horrible.  The only thing he was good at was padding his stats.  Pure crap.

[CA OC Bills Fan]

I'd put him way ahead of Bledsoe. Yes, Bledsoe had half a season of greatness before everyone realized, "Wait, he's the same statue that will hold the ball until he either has a huge play or gets sacked that used to play in New England." I'd also put him behind Fitz but I'm less sure of that. Tyrod made great plays with his legs and did make many excellent passes, it just seemed he didn't trust throwing if the receiver wasn't totally open.

[KingBoots8]

Tyrod was a far better option than people gave him credit for at the time. I feel like some people are/were hard on him because we dreamed of having a QB like Josh. Now, years later, I think people could/should see that he was one of the better drought era QB’s we had. He wasn’t going to throw for 350+/4tds, but he wouldn’t make mistakes and he would let his playmakers (Shady especially) do their thing. 
 

I give Rex a lot of grief for some of his decisions, but ultimately at the time he was right when it came to QB. Tyrod was a great presence on the team and seems like a genuinely good guy. I hope he can start a few games in NY

[Mark80]

He was terrible and held our team back.  He was too scared to win, always trying not to lose instead.  He was great a passing to guys who were open by 5 yards though.

Edited July 18, 2022 by Mark80

[Augie]

Tyrod had his lung in the wrong place, at the wrong time.  That has to be part of this story, because it’s just so crazy. 

 

He was serviceable, but with limitations. I like the guy because he bet on himself. I believe he was offered more to be a backup elsewhere, but he wanted a chance to start. I admire the attitude! 

 

 

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Edited July 18, 2022 by Augie

[Don Otreply]

Tyrod was a good average QB for us as compared to so many other failures we as fans endured, as to the negativity towards him by “fans”, remember 100% of those who talked sh-t about him couldn’t carry his jock, they are the same folk that now constantly complain, whimper and cry about endless misdeeds by our current HC GM and players, they are big talkers who couldn’t in their wildest dreams be as good as he has been on a football field, yet they will tell anyone who would listen how f ing smart they are about all things football…,  in real life they are the people we avoid being around…,

 

GO BILLS!!!

[extrahammer]

He is what he is, an athletic-style game manager with some accuracy issues. I don't think he's greatest in the league, but I also don't think you have a 12 year NFL career being terrible. 

Edited July 18, 2022 by extrahammer

[Alphadawg7]

I hate it when people say “Andy Dalton”.  We would have won 10 games instead of 9 had Tyrod started against Chargers.  I was at that game, and Chargers were a losing team, only had 2 close wins over bad teams and were on a 3 game losing streak.  Tyrod came in 2nd half and was moving the ball no problem.  
 

I was at that game and other Charger games that year.  No one can convince me we still lose if Tyrod starts that game against that bad team.

 

So for me, his legacy is as a class act, good teammate who was solid but not great and helped snap the 17 year drought.  Two pro bowls, highest scoring era outside the SB years up that time (Allen offense obviously surpassed that now too making Tyrod era now 3rd highest scoring bills era), and saddled with terrible coaching.  
 

He should not be crapped on.  Don’t have to think he was great (which he wasn’t great), but he wasn’t remotely as bad as his naysayers say and doesn’t deserve the venom some people spit at him.  

[Augie]

A former 6th round draft pick who has earned well north of $50 Million certainly gets my respect! 

[TheCockSportif]

To his credit, Tyrod wasn't EJ Manuel, and was a good dude by all accounts.  But otherwise he wasn't good enough by a long shot.

[dreadlox]

Tyrod was by all accounts a great teammate and hard worker. I don’t think the team lost too many games because of him, but they didn’t win many on account of him either. I remember feeling like if The Bills fell behind, it was over. He just wasn’t explosive as a passer. Too timid. I was glad he helped end the drought of course, but was also glad the team moved on the following year.

[eball]

I didn't hate Tyrod, and the bottom line is that he was the QB for the team that ended the drought.  All I can remember, though, is that we only scored 3 freaking points at Jacksonville in the playoffs.

[Bad Things]

No matter how many whine about him, Tyrod Taylor is The Drought-Breaker, and should be viewed as such.

[JoPoy88]

Does every former Bill really need or qualify for a “legacy?” 

[fergie's ire]

I agree that accuracy was his main issue.  He could not reliably place the ball in a small window.  He worked really hard and developed a work around which was to be careful and just throw to open receivers where ballpark accuracy was good enough.  He could run around to allow those windows to open up.  The problem was not that he was not clutch or was padding but that when he played better teams those windows were tighter and pass rush was quicker so he didn't have those open receivers to hit.  Essentially he had college level accuracy but found a way to make it work in the NFL which is really impressive, but what became clear to McDermott et al. is that wouldn't be good enough to make the team more than a borderline playoff team.

 

[NewEra]

7 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

I hate it when people say “Andy Dalton”.  We would have won 10 games instead of 9 had Tyrod started against Chargers.  I was at that game, and Chargers were a losing team, only had 2 close wins over bad teams and were on a 3 game losing streak.  Tyrod came in 2nd half and was moving the ball no problem.  
 

I was at that game and other Charger games that year.  No one can convince me we still lose if Tyrod starts that game against that bad team.

 

So for me, his legacy is as a class act, good teammate who was solid but not great and helped snap the 17 year drought.  Two pro bowls, highest scoring era outside the SB years up that time (Allen offense obviously surpassed that now too making Tyrod era now 3rd highest scoring bills era), and saddled with terrible coaching.  
 

He should not be crapped on.  Don’t have to think he was great (which he wasn’t great), but he wasn’t remotely as bad as his naysayers say and doesn’t deserve the venom some people spit at him.  

Well said.  I was at that game too.  That was different.  Watching our qB throw 100 million Ints in a soccer stadium, in the first half.  
 

i think people crap on him because he played scared.  He was too afraid of making a mistake.  From my recollection, when we needed a big play, he usually either ran or threw short of the 1st down marker.  So many times I was left thinking “we would’ve won that game if Tyrod wasn’t such a p****”.  That’s not to discredit his clutch moments, he had a few I’m sure (although not one comes to mind).  I liked the guy but that’s who he was.  Just a guy-

[Artful Dodger]

Good team guy, hard worker, and mildly competent, but the offense in that 2018 wild card playoff game (Jacksonville over Buffalo, 10-3) was just so painful to watch.  Taylor was 17 of 37 for 134 yards and one interception.  He was injured on the last drive and replaced by Peterman.  That sums him up for me. 

[TBBills]

We have Josh Allen!!!! 🙆

 

He was just good enough to help break the drought and get us Allen.

Edited July 18, 2022 by TBBills

[Let's Go Buffalo]

I will remember Tyrod as a hard nosed quarterback who helped us end our drought. He and Shady were a pretty good tandem in the backfield, and could've handled his benching mid-year that season a lot differently, instead of being negative about it and potentially losing the locker room like some players in his shoes might have, he came back strong, and helped us finally reach the playoffs again. So, that's how I will remember him. 

[patzen]

He was a risk-averse game manager who had a really beautiful deep ball. He will always hold a special place in my heart as the drought-breaking qb.

[hondo in seattle]

A hard-worker, mediocre passer, and excellent runner.  

 

The offense was competent when ALynn was his OC.

[sven233]

Good dude on and off the field that had a lot of physical talent that always left you wanting more.

[Ethan in Cleveland]

46 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

I hate it when people say “Andy Dalton”.  We would have won 10 games instead of 9 had Tyrod started against Chargers.  I was at that game, and Chargers were a losing team, only had 2 close wins over bad teams and were on a 3 game losing streak.  Tyrod came in 2nd half and was moving the ball no problem.  
 

I was at that game and other Charger games that year.  No one can convince me we still lose if Tyrod starts that game against that bad team.

 

So for me, his legacy is as a class act, good teammate who was solid but not great and helped snap the 17 year drought.  Two pro bowls, highest scoring era outside the SB years up that time (Allen offense obviously surpassed that now too making Tyrod era now 3rd highest scoring bills era), and saddled with terrible coaching.  
 

He should not be crapped on.  Don’t have to think he was great (which he wasn’t great), but he wasn’t remotely as bad as his naysayers say and doesn’t deserve the venom some people spit at him.  

I was there too

[ALLEN1QB]

Mouthwash on sidelines thats it.

[Beast]

1 hour ago, CA OC Bills Fan said:

I'd put him way ahead of Bledsoe. Yes, Bledsoe had half a season of greatness before everyone realized, "Wait, he's the same statue that will hold the ball until he either has a huge play or gets sacked that used to play in New England." I'd also put him behind Fitz but I'm less sure of that. Tyrod made great plays with his legs and did make many excellent passes, it just seemed he didn't trust throwing if the receiver wasn't totally open.

 

If Tyrod could spin the ball half as good as Bledsoe he'd be a Hall of Famer.

[Ethan in Cleveland]

Tyrod is still tied for second all time in lowest Interception percentage at 1.6%.  He is tied with Mahommes and only Aaron Rodgers at 1.3% is lower.  The difference obviously is those two QBs still take plenty of chances with the ball and produce TD's and wins.  

The Bills led the league in rushing two years in a row with TT and I believe were top 10 in points both years.  If Rex didn't destroy the defense he could have been an average winning QB.  His Bills legacy was forever written in Jax. It was a game the Bills should have won but he was terrible all game and missed a wide open TE (Clay?) for a go ahead TD in the second half.   

[julian]

Screaming at my television that I never want to see him in a Bills uniform ever again as he walked off the field in Jacksonville was it for me. Thankfully I never had to stomach another chickensh*t performance like that again.

[Rico]

1 hour ago, CA OC Bills Fan said:

I'd put him way ahead of Bledsoe. Yes, Bledsoe had half a season of greatness before everyone realized, "Wait, he's the same statue that will hold the ball until he either has a huge play or gets sacked that used to play in New England." I'd also put him behind Fitz but I'm less sure of that. Tyrod made great plays with his legs and did make many excellent passes, it just seemed he didn't trust throwing if the receiver wasn't totally open.

Yes, TT was WAY ahead of Brain Dead Drew.

[DallasMac]

There is absolutely no reason to hate Tyrod.  The guy gave his all but just wasn't good enough in the end.  He could hit the open targets but was unable to throw with anticipation or throw guys open.  Absolutely appreciate his time here and what he accomplished, as far as getting the team into a position where they could get into the playoffs.  Breaking the drought was great, that playoff game not so much.

Edited July 18, 2022 by DallasMac

[Big Turk]

Tyrod wasn't clutch. If he got behind in a game, it was very rare that they would come back and win. Most of the games he won they jumped out to an early lead

 

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

I’ll use the KISS method 

 

Tyrod = JAG trying to play QB that could run some 

[Fixxxer]

Average to above average QB, with some playmaking ability (mostly with his legs) Good teammate and by all accounts person. He just wasn't good enough to carry a team on his back. At the end of his time with the team, his play became frustrating to watch.

 

Both Fitz and Tyrod are the same guy, good players but not good enough to win consistently. 

[The Red King]

He was consistent, passable or mundane depending on how you were looking.  He wasn't great, he wasn't terrible.  He wouldn't be the one to lose you games, but he wouldn't personally win them either.  He would give you 7-9 wins, no more, no less.  Some people applauded him for one side of it, some hated him for the other.  The JAX playoff game showcased his limits, and made it clear he wasn't the future.  That being said, I still think he's almost a model backup QB, where that consistency is valued in someone you're hoping will help you keep your head above water until your starter returns.

[Bills fan since 87]

1 hour ago, JoPoy88 said:

Does every former Bill really need or qualify for a “legacy?” 

 

Yes

[Mr. WEO]

1 hour ago, Augie said:

Tyrod had his lung in the wrong place, at the wrong time.  That has to be part of this story, because it’s just so crazy. 

 

 

 

 

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Not really.  A needle near the lung for any reason/indication has a risk of pneumothorax. It is recovered from very quickly in most cases.  The reason Tyrod was listed as out "indefinitely" after that game where the injury became known immediately prior to kickoff is because Herbert came in as a rookie and threw for 300 yards.

 

That was it for TT.....

 

[TheyCallMeAndy]

You can’t have the utmost respect for Fitz and think Tyrod sucked. 

[Jerry Jabber]

Athletic, game managing QB who wouldn’t lose the game for you on a bad turnover.  One of the better QB’s we had during the playoff drought era. Seemed like a good guy and wasn’t a lockeroom cancer. 
 

Yes, it was frustrating seeing him throw 150-200 yards a game and only throw to someone if they were wide open with no defenders around him. But, he helped break the playoff drought and gave us our first taste of the playoffs in 17 years.