Dablitzkrieg Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 (edited) Per NFL radio on Sirius XM. No link, my apologies. This was pre draft so obviously they got Cook to fill the need, but interesting Edited May 12, 2022 by Dablitzkrieg 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetermansRedemption Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 Dodged a bullet 10 1 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted May 12, 2022 Author Share Posted May 12, 2022 Just now, PetermansRedemption said: Dodged a bullet My thoughts exactly. Dynamic when healthy, WHEN 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 Glad they declined. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 Who? (JK) 🤗 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 Could the Bills have fit his contract under the cap? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 16 minutes ago, Dablitzkrieg said: Per NFL radio on Sirius XM. No link, my apologies. This was pre draft so obviously they got Cook to fill the need, but interesting https://thespun.com/more/top-stories/1-nfl-team-offered-trade-for-christian-mccaffrey-fans-react 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 17 minutes ago, PetermansRedemption said: Dodged a bullet You ain't lying 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Rico said: https://thespun.com/more/top-stories/1-nfl-team-offered-trade-for-christian-mccaffrey-fans-react I said Beane and McDermott was trying to rebuild the 2017 Panthers team. Edited May 12, 2022 by Solomon Grundy 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 (edited) I don't doubt we made a "due diligence" call on CMC. But I kind of question whether or not we made an offer. Seems kind of like a game of telephone to me. There's been reports over the past couple days we called. I think outlets like Sirius XM are taking that story and running with it that we made an offer. Even if we did, I'm sure it wasn't much. Probably a 3rd while wanting them to take on some salary of his large contract. The fact that we were in on J.D. McKissic as quickly as we were and then transitioned to James Cook says to me that the talks weren't all that serious. 5 minutes ago, Rico said: https://thespun.com/more/top-stories/1-nfl-team-offered-trade-for-christian-mccaffrey-fans-react Case in point, this is an article saying we made an offer. But the sources they're quoting to form the article all just said we called on him. Calling about a player doesn't denote a formal offer. Edited May 12, 2022 by BillsFanForever19 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 Bills really wanted a RB they could play at WR. 2 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 6 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said: I said Beane and McDermott was trying to rebuild the 2015 Panthers team. Well that would be interesting since McCaffrey wasn’t on that team. 1 1 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 4 minutes ago, eball said: Well that would be interesting since McCaffrey wasn’t on that team. Fat fingers 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 32 minutes ago, Dablitzkrieg said: Per NFL radio on Sirius XM. No link, my apologies. This was pre draft so obviously they got Cook to fill the need, but interesting So glad that didn't go through. Would hate to get a RB that can only play 6 games a year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybrew1 Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 40 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Bills really wanted a RB they could play at WR. I guess we want to run this play as no one can really cover it now…. A LB can cover Cook is my impression. If you have this match up what a defense chooses to do to stop it should open up other things. This offense, with Cook on the field, ought to be pretty similar to what we ran wih end we had the Thurmanator…. If the defense stays big we pass to Cook or whomever, if they try to matchup in the pass game, we run it to Cook. Let our OL have some fun. It looks like KD wants to be even more matchup happy than Daboll…. And moreso, I think we want to use Allen as a runner less… We’ll use him a blocker instead…. 😃 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 1 hour ago, Dablitzkrieg said: My thoughts exactly. Dynamic when healthy, WHEN Also known as dynamic never. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 5 minutes ago, billybrew1 said: I guess we want to run this play as no one can really cover it now…. A LB can cover Cook is my impression. If you have this match up what a defense chooses to do to stop it should open up other things. This offense, with Cook on the field, ought to be pretty similar to what we ran wih end we had the Thurmanator…. If the defense stays big we pass to Cook or whomever, if they try to matchup in the pass game, we run it to Cook. Let our OL have some fun. It looks like KD wants to be even more matchup happy than Daboll…. And moreso, I think we want to use Allen as a runner less… We’ll use him a blocker instead…. 😃 Great post. Creating mismatches is what the nfl is all about imo. Cook is the ultimate mismatch maker. His route running is so smooth. Diggs will teach him some of his some tricks. LBers be like 😱 If it’s 1 on 1 with a Lb, spread him out wide and let him go to work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frogger Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 1 hour ago, PetermansRedemption said: Dodged a bullet I said it before, I’ll say it again, Cook can do everything CMC can do, but without the injury history. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket94 Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 Injury risk at this stage of his career! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 1 hour ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Bills really wanted a RB they could play at WR. Two birds, one stone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 1 hour ago, ScottLaw said: You’d think they’d have learned by now to stay away from the Carolina connection 😅 I congratulate you, Scott, for your dedication and persistence. No matter what is posted anywhere on this forum we can count on you to take a massive 💩 on it. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 2 hours ago, PetermansRedemption said: Dodged a bullet Sometimes you get lucky being turned down. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 yikes . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffBillsForLife Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 No way on earth would I take on McCaffrey's contract, especially not if I'm giving up assets for him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seoulofstone Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, 4merper4mer said: Also known as dynamic never. 1000 yards passing/receiving in the same season. Definitely not a dynamic player. 11 minutes ago, BuffBillsForLife said: No way on earth would I take on McCaffrey's contract, especially not if I'm giving up assets for him. On closer inspection I think you will find he would have been incredibly cheap. Most of the guaranteed money would have stayed with Carolina(and they could have afforded it) but that was likely the sticking point in the deal. It would have taken a bounty for them to eat the enormous cap hit. I wouldn’t be shocked if this deal is revived after this season. In fact that will be my bold prediction for next offseason. After Bills win the super bowl and Carolina finally has a reset after another bad year they will eat the CMC contract and Bills will move on from Singletary. Edited May 12, 2022 by Seoulofstone 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seoulofstone Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Rocket94 said: Injury risk at this stage of his career! Every player is an injury risk. CMC missed 2 seasons after 4 seasons of continuous health. His workload is insane-on the level of Derrick Henry, while also running routes and occasionally returns. Used properly by a creative OC I think it would be different. Edited May 12, 2022 by Seoulofstone 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilthyBeast Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 I don't care so much about us trying to raid the Panthers roster again as much as what we may have offered. And if it was anything in the 1st/2nd round arena that probably would have been a huge mistake given McCaffrery's inability to stay healthy and on the field. But a conditional mid round type of pick that could go higher if he stays on the field would have made sense and perhaps that's all beane dangled out there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, Seoulofstone said: 1000 yards passing/receiving in the same season. Definitely not a dynamic player. On closer inspection I think you will find he would have been incredibly cheap. Most of the guaranteed money would have stayed with Carolina(and they could have afforded it) but that was likely the sticking point in the deal. It would have taken a bounty for them to eat the enormous cap hit. I wouldn’t be shocked if this deal is revived after this season. In fact that will be my bold prediction for next offseason. After Bills win the super bowl and Carolina finally has a reset after another bad year they will eat the CMC contract and Bills will move on from Singletary. He would have been very cheap in year 1 for the Bills at about $1.2M, but then about $12M/year for the next 3. So it seems like it would have been a short term play. Two seasons at $6.6M AAV or even three at $8.4M AAV is reasonable if he stayed reasonably healthy. Nothing significant hanging over the team’s head if they had to cut him either. Edited May 13, 2022 by BarleyNY 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCofNC Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 1 hour ago, frogger said: I said it before, I’ll say it again, Cook can do everything CMC can do, but without the injury history. All without starting in college or the NFL.. oook 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 Thank you for Declining Carolina. Another Solid. First McD. Then Beane now this. Appreciate it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msw2112 Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 1 hour ago, OldTimer1960 said: Sometimes you get lucky being turned down. Antonio Brown, anyone? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 What if we offered a 7th round pick in 2023? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msw2112 Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 I am on board with the Cook pick and think and hope he'll be a great addition to the team, and a cost-controlled one at that. But to say that he's better than a healthy Christian McCaffery, at this point, when the guy was not a starter in college and hasn't played an NFL snap, is a bit much. I agree that McCaffery's injury history and salary would be concerns for the Bills (or any team). That said, I do think that guys get injured more often and stay injured longer on bad teams. Guys are more likely to play banged up if their team is in contention and has something play for. They don't rush back on the field so quickly when their team has no hope of even making the playoffs. By that theory, I think that if the Bills had acquired McCaffery, he would have missed far less time than he did in Carolina. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 Both organizations are confused. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 2 hours ago, billybrew1 said: I guess we want to run this play as no one can really cover it now…. A LB can cover Cook is my impression. If you have this match up what a defense chooses to do to stop it should open up other things. This offense, with Cook on the field, ought to be pretty similar to what we ran wih end we had the Thurmanator…. If the defense stays big we pass to Cook or whomever, if they try to matchup in the pass game, we run it to Cook. Let our OL have some fun. It looks like KD wants to be even more matchup happy than Daboll…. And moreso, I think we want to use Allen as a runner less… We’ll use him a blocker instead…. 😃 Or when we want to go big- Two TE-Knox, Howard, Kumerow, Gabe, Cooks- mismatches galore. Or we could go smash mouth and break the will of opposing Ds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 1 hour ago, OldTimer1960 said: Sometimes you get lucky being turned down. Too bad my ex-wife didn't turn me down. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitro Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 4 hours ago, PetermansRedemption said: Dodged a bullet Bills do not need the china doll that is McCaffrey. Cook is going to make Bills fans very happy. 1 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HamptonBillsfan Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 Why would Beane give up what it would take to get him when he rarely stays on the field for a full season. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 7 hours ago, PetermansRedemption said: Dodged a bullet What? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 First Mckissik , then CMC . They obviously wanted to add a duel threat RB. Cook obviously fills that role. Going to make this offense that much more dynamic. This O might break all time records , when you look at what we added and how phenomenal they were vs NE and KC to end the season. Adding a legit pass catcher in Cook outta the backfield is going to be brutal for coaches to scheme against this O. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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