stinky finger Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 3 hours ago, Doc said: I'm down with the 7th rounder, but a $6M salary? That salary indicates he’s starting, no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 29 minutes ago, Motor26 said: I don’t think Fromm was ever going to be the long-term backup. I still don’t know why they drafted him. WR Darnell Mooney went a few picks later. They could have drafted S Kamren Curl, or maybe RB James Robinson or punters Braden Mann or Tommy Towsend. But it is what it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 2 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: My only concern with Keenum as a backup is that I looked through his NFL history and he's been 100% a WCO type of QB. For those who don't know, there are two main lineages of NFL offenses West Coast and Erhardt-Perkins, and while they both run many of the same play concepts, the verbiage used to describe and call the plays is very different. While in theory, a smart QB should be able to map the new terminology onto his existing knowledge, in practice it's apparently a helluva lotta work, so veteran backups who bounce around the league tend to stay in one or the other system. I think that’s more relationship based than verbiage based in most cases Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen2D̶i̶g̶g̶s̶TBD Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 Why not? We're not gonna be able to find a qb in the 7th round who can step in immediately if Josh gets hurt. He's an experienced veteran who has won a playoff game. All of our late round picks just get poached from our practice squad without compensation anyway (Jack Anderson, Rachad Wildgoose, Jake Fromm) 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 32 minutes ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said: While we're talking about backup QBs, I wonder what would have happened if Fromm hadn't chosen to leave for the Giants last year. I said it was a bad move and I was right. He should have stayed here as he was waiting in the wings to be the long-term backup. Now, he's without a team entirely because he chased the temporary money in a really unstable situation. How would that make him look when a young QB on a practice squad has a chance to complete and start ? And instead he chooses to remain on a team’s/PS in which he has no chance to be anything more then a backup, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 This seems like a luxury pick in regards to the cap situation and I don't understand why we are paying anyone more than league minimum when if all goes well he will never step on the field for a single play that matters. I would rather save the cap for a CB or a OL player. Trust in Beane but this one does not seem to fit. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 Just now, Buffalo Timmy said: This seems like a luxury pick in regards to the cap situation and I don't understand why we are paying anyone more than league minimum when if all goes well he will never step on the field for a single play that matters. I would rather save the cap for a CB or a OL player. Trust in Beane but this one does not seem to fit. Let’s wait and see the exact price tag Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 2 minutes ago, Buffalo Timmy said: This seems like a luxury pick in regards to the cap situation and I don't understand why we are paying anyone more than league minimum when if all goes well he will never step on the field for a single play that matters. I would rather save the cap for a CB or a OL player. Trust in Beane but this one does not seem to fit. Last year we had money Mitch backing up Josh This year one of the best backups in the league is backing up Josh It absolutely fits Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 8 minutes ago, Buffalo Timmy said: This seems like a luxury pick in regards to the cap situation and I don't understand why we are paying anyone more than league minimum when if all goes well he will never step on the field for a single play that matters. I would rather save the cap for a CB or a OL player. Trust in Beane but this one does not seem to fit. The Cap is a thing poorly run franchises say is what holds them back. Its all make believe and how much money you are actually allocated to spend each year. I think Buffalo might be closer to the actual liquid cash number than Cap number. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manther Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 3 hours ago, Mikie's Bills said: We had two 7ths originally. Ours and Atlanta's, so now we're down to 1. Haha, the 7th for Lee Smith. That was an impressive move for a TE retiring or being cut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 10 minutes ago, Buffalo Timmy said: This seems like a luxury pick in regards to the cap situation and I don't understand why we are paying anyone more than league minimum when if all goes well he will never step on the field for a single play that matters. I would rather save the cap for a CB or a OL player. Trust in Beane but this one does not seem to fit. He's only under contract for this season. I'd imagine that contract will end up getting reworked with an extension so we have that Backup role locked down for a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 1 hour ago, BUFFALOBART said: When the NFL suspends Watson, the Browns are going to need Baker. Guarantee Backer is gone before the season starts if not a lot sooner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl2526 Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 Gotta have a backup. Keenum can play and has leadership skills. Obviously, he doesn't have the same skill set Josh Allen has, but not many QBs do, especially backup caliber QBs. If Allen goes down, Buffalo will have to run a more controlled offense with less of a downfield passing component, and more short timing throws. Obviously Buffalo is much better off if Allen can stay healthy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfandBills Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 28 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: I still don’t know why they drafted him. WR Darnell Mooney went a few picks later. They could have drafted S Kamren Curl, or maybe RB James Robinson or punters Braden Mann or Tommy Towsend. But it is what it is. They didn’t have a crystal ball obviously 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 3 hours ago, gonzo1105 said: Good move by Beane. Keenum is a guy who can win you games in this league. Just for a 7th rounder too Geez....this is incredible...he's better than Kyle Allen, Fitz or Barkley. Way to go Brandon. Have a week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 Keenum is a great backup, Barkley a great backup to the backup. Can we get a backup for the backup’s backup? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 Just now, TheyCallMeAndy said: Keenum is a great backup, Barkley a great backup to the backup. Can we get a backup for the backup’s backup? Peterma… Nevermind. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 I think that this was a GREAT move! 2022 appears to be a very poor QB draft. I will get slammed for saying this but I really don't care: If we need him for a couple of games, he will NOT be such a big dropoff from Trubisky. Excellent move by Beane!!! 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wakingfane Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 I hope they extend him for a few years. He shouldn't really be looking to start anywhere else at this point in his career. I'm glad we didn't go for Fitz to actually play on this team... Major injury last year, baggage from the drought, and too much bad voodoo. Not to mention the predictable fatal picks in crunch time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen2D̶i̶g̶g̶s̶TBD Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 (edited) According to Spotrac Case Keenum has a bigger cap hit than Von Miller 🤣 Edited March 20, 2022 by Allen2Diggs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sierra Foothills Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 3 hours ago, Pokebball said: I'm good with this. 3 hours ago, Brennan Huff said: We were all on edge anticipating your approval 3 hours ago, GolfandBills said: So he’s unable to learn a new system? That was your takeaway? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GETTOTHE50 Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 22 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: Keenum is a great backup, Barkley a great backup to the backup. Can we get a backup for the backup’s backup? i played baseball in highschool. just sayin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 26 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: Keenum is a great backup, Barkley a great backup to the backup. Can we get a backup for the backup’s backup? It's altogether possible. Before Fromm was signed away by the Giants, we had 4 QB's in the building last season. Wouldn't shock me if there was a UDFA or a late round pick also on the Practice Squad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sierra Foothills Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 Wiki: On March 31, 2017, Keenum signed a one-year contract with the Minnesota Vikings. Due to an injury to Sam Bradford, Keenum started the Week 2 game against the Pittsburgh Steelers, completing 20 of 37 passes for 167 yards in a 26–9 loss. In the next game against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, he threw for 369 yards and three touchdowns as the Vikings won by a score of 34–17. Through Weeks 4–7, Keenum averaged 196 yards with a total of two touchdowns and two interceptions, but a record of 3–1 over the span. During Week 8, he had two touchdowns and 288 yards against the winless Cleveland Browns to enter the bye-week. After a Week 9 bye, Keenum threw for 304 yards, four touchdowns, and two interceptions against the Washington Redskins as the Vikings won their fifth straight game, 38–30. In the next game against his former team, the Los Angeles Rams, Keenum threw for 280 yards and a touchdown, resulting in 6 straight games won. On Thanksgiving Day, during Week 12 against the Detroit Lions, he finished with 282 passing yards and two touchdowns as the Vikings won 30–23. He was named the NFC Offensive Player of the Month for November after passing for 866 yards with seven touchdowns and just two interceptions. In 15 games (14 starts) of 2017, Keenum finished with 3,547 passing yards, 22 touchdowns, seven interceptions, and a passer rating of 98.3. He was ranked 51st by his peers on the NFL Top 100 Players of 2018. The Vikings finished the 2017 season with a 13–3 record, clinching the NFC North Division. In the NFC Divisional Round against the New Orleans Saints, Keenum finished with 318 passing yards, a touchdown, and an interception. With only 10 seconds left in the fourth quarter, Keenum threw a pass to Stefon Diggs, who ran 61 yards for the game-winning touchdown, giving the Vikings a miraculous 29–24 victory. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 Good solid pick up. Now, I'm looking for help at CB, WR, and OL depth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGMcD2 Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, MrEpsYtown said: I still don’t know why they drafted him. WR Darnell Mooney went a few picks later. They could have drafted S Kamren Curl, or maybe RB James Robinson or punters Braden Mann or Tommy Towsend. But it is what it is. Ahhh yes - let's just cherry pick the handful of guys that went after him to support my poor argument. That's a great argent...I'm going to try now but with guys that support my stance. I think I know why they drafted him. WR Isaiah Coulter went a few picks later. They could have drafted S Alohi Gilman, or maybe RB Eno Benjamin or special teamers Blake Ferguson or Sterling Hofrichter. But it is what it is. Edited March 20, 2022 by JGMcD2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, newcam2012 said: Good solid pick up. Now, I'm looking for help at CB, WR, and OL depth. Also need a RB after the McKissic fiasco and turning the page on Breida. And we'll need a Starting Guard if Ryan Bates is signed to a deal we can't or won't match. Edited March 20, 2022 by BillsFanForever19 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 4 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said: Also need a RB after the McKissic fiasco and turning the page on Breida. And we'll need a Starting Guard if Ryan Bates is signed to a deal we can't or won't match. I understand that in about a month, NFL teams are allowed to add a certain number of college players to their rosters, through some sort of selection process…some of the players are quite good… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 (edited) 9 minutes ago, mannc said: I understand that in about a month, NFL teams are allowed to add a certain number of college players to their rosters, through some sort of selection process…some of the players are quite good… No way, really?! 🙄 I was simply commenting on other spots we need to fill beyond what he listed. Edited March 20, 2022 by BillsFanForever19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 1 hour ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said: While we're talking about backup QBs, I wonder what would have happened if Fromm hadn't chosen to leave for the Giants last year. I said it was a bad move and I was right. He should have stayed here as he was waiting in the wings to be the long-term backup. Now, he's without a team entirely because he chased the temporary money in a really unstable situation. 1 hour ago, Captain Hindsight said: I bet they still would have traded for Keenum. Bills knew what they had I agree Captain. Fromm was never going to be the #2 QB here. Maybe if he stayed they wouldn't be looking to add Barkley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 Awesome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanoros Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 1 hour ago, Mat68 said: The Cap is a thing poorly run franchises say is what holds them back. Its all make believe and how much money you are actually allocated to spend each year. I think Buffalo might be closer to the actual liquid cash number than Cap number. It’s not make believe, it’s simply pushing cost down the road, or borrowing against future years. With the cap constantly going (pre c19, and again) it’s harder to notice, and not a bad strategy, but there is certainly a cost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 (edited) 49 minutes ago, GETTOTHE50 said: i played baseball in highschool. just sayin Can you beat Rich Eisen in the 40? That is your first test. He’s pricey for a backup, but if you need him you really need him. I hope we can run the ball better this year so we can win games without being so “Josh reliant” if need be. . Edited March 20, 2022 by Augie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 Good backup for a 7th. Salary seems a bit high but maybe they can fix that. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 (edited) By the way, I’m amazed no one tried to troll the board with a clickbait title, like “Bills Acquire Playoff Winning QB from the Browns” to try and make it seem like Baker. Way to be better everyone. 👍 Edited March 21, 2022 by buffaloboyinATL 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfaninChicago Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 No complaints here. Solid vet who can win games if needed to. I was warming up to the idea as Barkley being the back up but it couldn’t hurt to have a camp battle for that spot if they do bring him in also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsGospel Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 Great pickup imo solid guy in the room and lead his team to the playoffs. The salary cap hit is irrelevant as money can be moved. Now let’s get a veteran corner and we can just sit back and enjoy the draft. Loving this off-season so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 Didn't read whole thread but was it mentioned Keenum was Denver's QB for the 2018 season coming over from Minnesota Was he a reason they passed on Josh and didn't go QB in 2018? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 6 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: This is a great backup plan barkley will probably round out QB 3, which I like too Something tells me they see a future QB Coach/OC in Barkley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 44 minutes ago, BUFFALOBART said: I've since read that the Browns stated, that they would 'Replace Baker with an Adult', so all bets are off, with regard to Mayfield's fate.. Whats Progressive Insurance going to do? Maybe they'll use Watson, I'm sure he'd be a great face for the company. Maybe just like many of the Brown fans who are abandoning Cleveland, Progressive will do the same and follow Bills Mafia! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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