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1 minute ago, daz28 said:

They'll still catch balls, but it won't be as automatic.  I mean they struggled to put up points in the playoffs, so this hurts pretty bad.

Rodgers had Jennings, Nelson and Adams as his bread and butter in a good deal of their best years (Adams still growing).

 

I'd like to see Rodgers with the WR corp of Zay Jones, Kelvin Benjamin and Andre Holmes as his top 3 receivers.

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26 minutes ago, Bills Juggernaut said:

Grrrrrrrr……. Not liking this trade. Packers get in front of us to take another first round WR off the board. I was hoping 1st WR/2nd CB. Now it’s probably 1st CB/2nd WR. 

They’ll pry take a qb knowing them.

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50 minutes ago, Donuts and Doritos said:

It's cute how Da Raiders are spending all this $$ & capital to stay relevant in the AFC West. Which of these is not like the other: PATRICK MAHOMES, JUSTIN HERBERT, RUSSELL WILSON, derek carr? Carr is the definition of QB purgatory.

I think Carr is a good QB 

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1 hour ago, Drifter said:

This is the wildest off season I've  ever seen! 

 

Once the crazy trades started happening a couple years back it snowballed. The NBA has been like this for years. Every team is in an arms race trying to build the next great super team. The players have realized they run the show so they're making demands they never would have made 10 years ago. Every offseason is going to be like this now. I love it.

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The owner GM, and head coach, went out for drinks after the trade to have a laugh at Rodgers expense, it’s a cruel game they got going on…,

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2 hours ago, Ross Murdock said:

Rogers might be having buyers remorse. I'm assuming he knew this might happen? You wonder how much having Adams made Rogers look good? 

 

IMO I think it's the other way around.  Elite QB's can make good look elite.  For that reason I'm not that worried about Beasley leaving as Allen will make Davis, McKenzie, rookie, Knox, and Howard all look better than they really are.

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Honestly - I think it helps GB a ton.  They now have 4 picks in the first 2 rounds to get some cost contained players that they need.  Adams is great with Rodgers, but trying to fit that 28 million WR salary with the 50 million QB salary would of eliminated any other players.

 

Get a couple of WRs and couple of DBs - resign Douglas as a CB and they will be fine.  The QB makes the WR.

 

Carr will have tons of options, but I don’t think he makes Adams anywhere near worth 28 million.  I think that salary will look bad from year 1.

 

I do hope LV finds ways to continue to play KC tight and win, Denver should be able to play with and beat KC, LA already had Mahomes’ number early last year.  I can easily see KC with 4 division losses with that defense they will be sporting.

 

 

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12 hours ago, WMDman said:

lmao Rodgers gonna go full Karen mode

Yeah let’s see how he does after all that talk about how much it’s about team for him, and how much the relationship with the gm is so much better now. Haha!  200$ mil / 50 mil a year MAY calm KAARON , but something tells me nothing can stop a full blown diva who was so worried when one press guy refused to vote for him for mvp.   This should be good! 😄. I love it; couldn’t happen to a sweeter guy !  

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14 minutes ago, DrPJax said:

Yeah let’s see how he does after all that talk about how,much it’s aboit team for him, and how much the relationship with the gm is so much better now. Haha!  200$ mil / 50 mil a year MAY calm KAARON , but something tells me nothing can stop a full blown diva who was so worried when one press guy refused to vote for him for mvp.   This should be good! 😄. I love it; couldn’t happen to a sweeter guy !  

 

To be fair, the guys wouldn't vote for him due to his stance on Covid, which isn't football related at all.  That's kind of messed up.  

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1 hour ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said:

 

IMO I think it's the other way around.  Elite QB's can make good look elite.  For that reason I'm not that worried about Beasley leaving as Allen will make Davis, McKenzie, rookie, Knox, and Howard all look better than they really are.

I agree Allen can make guys better, but it also works both ways.  Beas was great with many clutch catches and let’s be honest , Allen was developing into what he is now and many times Cole made spectacular catches of off target throws from Allen , and he helped win games for us   I really like Cole, and he made the right choices for himself  about the vax and didn’t deserve all the crap. I won’t get into the medical arguments here even tho there is a ton of evidence to support individuals choices because this board is not tolerant of discussing outcomes or issues regardless of supporting studies.

 

 But he was great for a developing Josh , played thru a fractured  fibula , and was a very , very good slot guy who moved the chains with many critical receptions.   Allen is at a stage NOW where he does make people better , but Cole is talented reading zones , had great hands , and was a good teammate by all accounts.   It may not be as easy as you think to just plug in some one else : we’ve all read aboit chemistry between a qb and receivers.   Sanders never really developed that type of chemistry with Allen , so I would never  minimize losing a guy Josh depended on many times. 

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It's definitely a big swing for the Raiders, but giving up a 1st & 2nd plus forking over $28.25M per yr to a WR that will be 30 in December may not end up being a smart move.

 

There are some WRs that produce into their mid 30s, but there are more that hit a wall @ 31-32. 

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4 minutes ago, cle23 said:

 

To be fair, the guys wouldn't vote for him due to his stance on Covid, which isn't football related at all.  That's kind of messed up.  

I understand that , after all tho  Rodgers did LIE about things and admitted he was in the wrong   But why attack the guy and call him an idiot just because he didn’t vote for you to be a UNANIMOUS choice and Rodgers was still going to easily win the mvp award.  So all his self love and entitlement was about ONE VOTE!   True behavior of a narcissistic A  hole and it just one more thing in a long history of diva like antics from Rodgers over the years.  He was the guy holding out all this prior pre season as well , so he has a pattern of behavior worrying about himself and not the team as he wants everyone to perceive about him.  This adams thing would be a great time to be a fly on the wall when they try reasoning this to Rodgers who many times said he wanted Adams on the team. 😀

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5 minutes ago, Estro said:

It's definitely a big swing for the Raiders, but giving up a 1st & 2nd plus forking over $28.25M per yr to a WR that will be 30 in December may not end up being a smart move.

 

There are some WRs that produce into their mid 30s, but there are more that hit a wall @ 31-32. 

Great points , and Carr is no Rodgers.  Man,  the AFC just got a whole ton of talent dumped into it this preseason and this is all before the draft ! This is another example of irresponsible spending by a gm as there is no way Adams lives up to that value with Carr throwing the ball and with all the other talented teams in that division. I get trying to do something with all the talent influx , but you have to be realistic with Carr as yoir qb : no way a wr returns value at that price getting throw to by Carr. 

 

I don’t think he will come close to the production he had in Green Bay as other teams will be scoring and holding onto the ball in that division and I think the Raiders would be smarter to try running the ball and keeping possession rather than trying to keep up with Maholmes , Wilson, and the San Diego qb, as Carr is arguably the worst qb in that division now. Raiders being the Raiders tho even with a new staff in place. Some things never change !  Ownership does play a role in how the franchise performs year after year , and any guy who.rocks that hair cut as an owner is proof he makes bad decisions daily !😃

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3 hours ago, Tanoros said:

True, however that was awhile ago now and for the last few years they have been knocking on the door, not getting a wr or even something other than qb with a late first, could have changed everything for them. That team has been so close, and hitting on a 5 year cost controlled contract would have been big for them. 
 

The other reason I bring it up is because, Rodgers winning only one Super Bowl would end up being something people point too when discussing his legacy when he is retired. Everyone always talks about SuperBowl wins/mvps, and league mvps. 
 

I should have been more clear in how I said that. I was referring to this latest opportunity they have had with LaFluer as head coach. 

Good point. As far as his legacy goes, I don't think it matters much, as long as he won one. Great QBs usually win one or two at most, some not at all. John Elway and Peyton Manning, for instance, will still be considered 2 of the greatest of all time. Rodgers is already discussed as possibly better than them.

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Stunned at this trade.  Adams probably didn’t want to have to deal the garbage heap that is Aaron Rodgers any more.  Especially if GB really did offer more cash.

 

Rodgers must not really care to win if he knew Adams would not be signed when he got his contract.

 

Ill say it again, I Love Josh Allen!

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11 hours ago, 17islongenough said:

So will they trade one of those picks for Kunerow?

Trade?!  If I were the Bills, I would be hiring a bodyguard to prevent Kumerow's kidnapping and subsequent brainwashing by forces loyal to AR. 

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18 minutes ago, PetermansRedemption said:

I thought Of that initially, but after thinking deeper, I’m not sure it changes anything. WR was a pretty big need for the Raiders anyways. Almost as much as the Pack. A WR is as likely to go at that pick now as he was before the trade. 

I’d also say Green Bay probably isn’t super likely to take a guy they aren’t sure will be ready to play as a rookie. We’ll see what their WR group looks like at the end of free agency anyways. I have to imagine they’ll sign one or two. 

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1 hour ago, Pete said:

Damn there goes our shot at Jameson 


if Williams is the guy you want, why would GB, absent a # 1 WR draft a guy they won’t have for 8+ games, will need time to gel with the QB, won’t be fully healthy till year 2 cause ACL usually take that long despite being able to play on it earlier when there are multiple other healthy options that make sense 

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11 hours ago, Bills Juggernaut said:

Grrrrrrrr……. Not liking this trade. Packers get in front of us to take another first round WR off the board. I was hoping 1st WR/2nd CB. Now it’s probably 1st CB/2nd WR. 

To be fair Raiders were in WR market probably too anyway. This just makes it almost certainty that WR goes 22.

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In the ends, Fodgers endless drama, bogus holdout, etc over “GB not giving him weapons…something something” was all total BS on his part.  It was (surprise) a well thought out money play.  He didn’t care if they were trading his best weapon.  He got paid.

that’s all this was ever about. 
 

I do give him kudos for this though.  He took endless public hits to get his money.  

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2 hours ago, frostbitmic said:

They'll end up signing OBJ and Beasley, then trade for Bob Woods, then they'll draft Jameson Williams. Kaaron will be fine.

 

 

 

Nothing like a bunch of receivers coming off ACL injuries to get a QB jacked up.

 

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As good as Diggs is, there’s no way I’m paying him or any other receiver Davante Adams money. It’s not a premium position, you can split that money into two very good receivers and get more bang for your buck.

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3 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:

In the ends, Fodgers endless drama, bogus holdout, etc over “GB not giving him weapons…something something” was all total BS on his part.  It was (surprise) a well thought out money play.  He didn’t care if they were trading his best weapon.  He got paid.

that’s all this was ever about. 
 

I do give him kudos for this though.  He took endless public hits to get his money.  

Green Bay gave him all the ammo he needed when they picked Love round 1. 

 

Now, Mayfield has the playbook.

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