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Baker Mayfield says goodbye to Cleveland (update - Traded to Panthers)


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To me the Lions would be a perfect fit for Mayfield. It’s a team that plays with a lot of heart and a chip on their shoulder. This guy is a lot of things but he fits that mold for sure. That fan base would almost definitely embrace him and the lions would be getting a very motivated guy. It would be an excellent place to try and revitalize a career IMO. Low expectations but room for a monster payoff.

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17 minutes ago, aceman_16 said:

Yeah...crazy fandom. I am afraid we would do the same thing.

You mean passing on a repentant Mike Vick still in his prime? Ignoring Josh Allen’s racist tweets? Or booing our own players for their political beliefs? Because we’ve been there on all sides. 

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1 hour ago, ddaryl said:

 


too late that ship has sailed...   We have our backups locked up, and Baker will not be released.

 

I disagree that Baker won't be released.   I don't think that there are many -- any -- teams willing to take on Mayfield's salary ($18 million IIRC) and give up a player/pick for a one year rental on a not that great QB who is still making a lot of the same mistakes he made as a rookie.

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Just now, SoTier said:

 

I disagree that Baker won't be released.   I don't think that there are many -- any -- teams willing to take on Mayfield's salary ($18 million IIRC) and give up a player/pick for a one year rental on a not that great QB who is still making a lot of the same mistakes he made as a rookie.

Waiting for the homeless Baker commercial.

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15 minutes ago, SoTier said:

 

I disagree that Baker won't be released.   I don't think that there are many -- any -- teams willing to take on Mayfield's salary ($18 million IIRC) and give up a player/pick for a one year rental on a not that great QB who is still making a lot of the same mistakes he made as a rookie.



Possibly but I believe someone will offer something. Especially if a team loses a starter before the season.

Looks like Cleveland could swallow Bakers cap hit and wait it out... Would they want to is the question. They gave up a ton of picks for Watson so I'm sure they want to try

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2 hours ago, SoTier said:

 

I disagree that Baker won't be released.   I don't think that there are many -- any -- teams willing to take on Mayfield's salary ($18 million IIRC) and give up a player/pick for a one year rental on a not that great QB who is still making a lot of the same mistakes he made as a rookie.

His salary is fully guaranteed.  Other than the roster spot (which would be filled by a player whose salary also would count toward the cap) they’d gain nothing.  They could keep him for part/all of the season.  He could compete with Brissett for the back up spot.  If he wants to start somewhere else in the league, then he can man up and entice the other teams while Watson is suspended.  That’s a tough road, but I think that after Watson’s suspension is announced the Browns may say that he could start during that time.  That’d mostly be a move to try to improve his trade value though. 
 

I think they do eventually trade him.  If they can’t, then I think the likely scenario is that he sits the year as inactive for every game unless suspension and/or injury require the team to make him active.  I doubt he actually plays unless it’s an emergency.  They’ll at least get a comp pick out of it that way. 

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2 hours ago, ddaryl said:



Possibly but I believe someone will offer something. Especially if a team loses a starter before the season.

Looks like Cleveland could swallow Bakers cap hit and wait it out... Would they want to is the question. They gave up a ton of picks for Watson so I'm sure they want to try


I think Cleveland is going to do the Brock Osweiler type deal and send Baker and some draft pick(s) to a team with excess cap space. The Browns only return will be cap relief and dumping a headache. 

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4 hours ago, SoTier said:

 

I disagree that Baker won't be released.   I don't think that there are many -- any -- teams willing to take on Mayfield's salary ($18 million IIRC) and give up a player/pick for a one year rental on a not that great QB who is still making a lot of the same mistakes he made as a rookie.


I understand your point, but the trade partner could renegotiate with Baker.

 

Another possibility is the trade partner gives up a pick in exchange for Browns keeping a portion of Baker’s salary

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6 hours ago, benderbender said:

You mean passing on a repentant Mike Vick still in his prime? Ignoring Josh Allen’s racist tweets? Or booing our own players for their political beliefs? Because we’ve been there on all sides. 

I was unaware that Josh had racist tweet, when did this happen and what did he say?

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6 hours ago, benderbender said:

You mean passing on a repentant Mike Vick still in his prime? Ignoring Josh Allen’s racist tweets? Or booing our own players for their political beliefs? Because we’ve been there on all sides. 

 

1 minute ago, Buffalo Timmy said:

I was unaware that Josh had racist tweet, when did this happen and what did he say?

He didn’t, but that doesn’t fit benders narrative. He quoted rap lyrics that were taken out of context while he was in high school. 
 

Bills fans also didn’t boo Beasley-I was at that game in question, no one was booing him, people were saying Coooooole…but again, doesn’t fit the narrative that’s trying to be passed

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3 minutes ago, Buffalo Timmy said:

I was unaware that Josh had racist tweet, when did this happen and what did he say?

 

 

He quoted a rap song.  Ignore these idiots.

Just now, Ya Digg? said:

 

He didn’t, but that doesn’t fit benders narrative. He quoted rap lyrics that were taken out of context while he was in high school. 
 

Bills fans also didn’t boo Beasley-I was at that game in question, no one was booing him, people were saying Coooooole…but again, doesn’t fit the narrative that’s trying to be passed

 

 

To be fair, some fans might have been booing. You can only be sure about what you heard. But even  if a few fans did, so what?  Players get booed by some fans all the time, even at home.

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SHOCKER. Browns find few trade suitors for Baker. 

 

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/browns-are-making-it-clear-baker-mayfield-is-out-but-a-trade-might-not-happen-unless-they-pay-up-181952357.html

 

Browns are making it clear Baker Mayfield is out.
 

But a trade might not happen unless they pay up

 

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7 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

That's some real lack of self awareness right there.

 

He and Sammy should land in the same spot so they can talk smack about the people in their “little jobs”.     🙄

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We’ll he’s losing options at this point.  NO, Carolina, and maybe Seattle.  They haven’t traded for him yet so it’s a safe bet he won’t get traded until after the draft if at all.

 

He was really banged up and may have hurt himself as if he pulled out mid year, his stock would probably be higher now.

 

I meant to add per Spotrac Carolina has $30.8 mil., NO has $20.5 mil.,and Seattle has $15.6 mil.  As of today Cleveland I thought owes BM $18.8 mil, and they have $19.6 available pre Watson contract.

 

Its just a matter of whether any of these three teams see him as that much of an upgrade over what’s on their roster.  Also, do they see any value in if the top. Draft prospects.  This draft is pretty weak at QB.

 

Next year is much better so they may want to rent Mayfield for a year, and then draft a much better class next year.

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6 hours ago, Augie said:

 

He and Sammy should land in the same spot so they can talk smack about the people in their “little jobs”.     🙄

Joke’s on baker! People in cubicles already hate themselves 

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9 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said:

Say what you want about the guy, but he is arguably better than 15 of the guys who will start for NFL teams next year.     Think he'd be a hell of a smart pickup for Seattle this year, if they can cut some salary in the trade.  

.....and all of the bottom 15 teams are looking to upgrade and get a franchise QB.  That's hardly the bar to clear and not sure would qualify as a smart pickup for Seattle.  Maybe Cleveland is still asking for too much to trade for Mayfield, but there does not seem to be much interest....guess that demonstrates what the rest of the league thinks of him.

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16 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said:

Say what you want about the guy, but he is arguably better than 15 of the guys who will start for NFL teams next year.     Think he'd be a hell of a smart pickup for Seattle this year, if they can cut some salary in the trade.  

He would only be smart if they weren't rebuilding.

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5 minutes ago, Yard Monkey said:

.....and all of the bottom 15 teams are looking to upgrade and get a franchise QB.  That's hardly the bar to clear and not sure would qualify as a smart pickup for Seattle.  Maybe Cleveland is still asking for too much to trade for Mayfield, but there does not seem to be much interest....guess that demonstrates what the rest of the league thinks of him.

Other teams know he's going to get cut. Browns can't have Baker suit up this year. That relationship is so bad right now. If Trubisky got another shot, Baker will too

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We’ll he’s losing options at this point.  NO, Carolina, and Seattle.  Carolina has almost $31 mil., NO has about $25.  Seattle has $15 mil.

 

If they don’t like any draft picks, they could inherit the $18 mil, owes BM.  I don’t see anyone at this point giving away any high draft picks for him this year.  He’s still good enough to play as an avg. NFL QB.  
 

Next years draft is supposed to be much better at QB.  It’s all spec. At this point.

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Some of that stuff Baker was saying about struggling to motivate guys that get paid a ton of money to win is so cringe. Can’t even imagine Josh saying stuff like that. 
 

I thank the good Lord above that we picked the right QB from that class. Easily could’ve F’d up that decision and instead Beane delivered. 

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39 minutes ago, TheProcess said:

Some of that stuff Baker was saying about struggling to motivate guys that get paid a ton of money to win is so cringe. Can’t even imagine Josh saying stuff like that. 
 

I thank the good Lord above that we picked the right QB from that class. Easily could’ve F’d up that decision and instead Beane delivered. 

He did throw his coaches and locker room under the bus. I didn’t finish the whole thing but that part was bad. He’s still technically on the team 

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55 minutes ago, TheProcess said:

I thank the good Lord above that we picked the right QB from that class. Easily could’ve F’d up that decision and instead Beane delivered. 

 

Yeah, thank goodness Beane didn't listen to the guys tweeting the replies to this back in 2018...

 

 

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6 hours ago, Captain Hindsight said:

Other teams know he's going to get cut. Browns can't have Baker suit up this year. That relationship is so bad right now. If Trubisky got another shot, Baker will too

Mitch wasn’t a malcontent who was known in league circles as having a childish attitude. Baker has talent and can be a starting QB in the NFL, but has a lot of self-reflection and improvement to take on.

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