Baker Mayfield says goodbye to Cleveland (update - Traded to Panthers)

[Warcodered]

16 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

All that guaranteed money the Browns threw around might have pissed some other teams off.

[The Wiz]

1 hour ago, Warcodered said:

All that guaranteed money the Browns threw around might have pissed some other teams off.

More to the point that they basically told everyone Mayfield is done in Cleveland but they won't let him leave.

 

At this rate they are just holding Mayfield hostage for whatever they deem as a worthwhile offer. 

 

The GT money is just stupid of cleveland and I'm sure other teams are just laughing at them.

Edited May 6, 2022 by The Wiz

[KDIGGZ]

3 hours ago, Chaos said:

NFL Roster management is simply financial asset management.  As an anology imagine you are shopping for a house. One house is very nice and clearly worth $1 million dollars, but has an asking price of $3 million. Another house is not as nice, and is clearly worth $500 thousand dollars, and has an asking price of $500k.  Which house would you buy? 

The one that can complete a pass

[CSBill]

7 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

 

“no one’s trying to do the #Browns any favors in this situation.”  GOOD! The Browns management has worked hard to be the most loathed team in the NFL. They win.

 

As for Baker Mayfield, this has actually done the opposite for him: He is now viewed with great sympathy. Who can fault him for wanting to get out of there?

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

14 minutes ago, CSBill said:

 

...The Browns management has worked hard to be the most loathed team in the NFL. They win.

"Hi, I'm Russ!  Sounds like you folks here at the Browns could use an experienced executive who relates to the other teams and your fanbase as a 'straight up guy'!"

[machine gun kelly]

The teams that still want to add a QB are simply waiting for Cleveland to cut him.  I do agree with some who mentioned other teams are not interested in playing ball with a team that significantly overpaid for Watson as it sets a precedent other teams have to deal with in their own future negotiations with top QB’s.

 

Teams like Seattle and Carolina can simply wait and let Cleveland eat the $18.8 mil. they are currently on the hook for in 2022.  They can then make a low ball offer for a guy still recuperating from multiple injuries.

[SoTier]

22 minutes ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said:

"Hi, I'm Russ!  Sounds like you folks here at the Browns could use an experienced executive who relates to the other teams and your fanbase as a 'straight up guy'!"

 

Neither Cleveland nor the Browns fans deserve this plague.   Maybe Pats fans deserve Brandon but not Browns fans.  Hell, even Jests fans don't deserve him.

[Niagara Bill]

So, do teams not like Mayfields ability, or he is just such a jerk like Manziel was.

 

Imagine if it's personality how bad he really is, they took a rusk on Watson rather than him!   

 

Looks like Mayfield may have started his last game

[eball]

16 minutes ago, Niagara Bill said:

So, do teams not like Mayfields ability, or he is just such a jerk like Manziel was.

 

Imagine if it's personality how bad he really is, they took a rusk on Watson rather than him!   

 

Looks like Mayfield may have started his last game

 

Hardly.  More likely, Cleveland is asking for too much.  That will change.

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

7 minutes ago, eball said:

 

Hardly.  More likely, Cleveland is asking for too much.  That will change.

 

Huge cap hit. If they trade him, new team gets the whole thing. If they cut him he can sign anywhere and still get that guarantee. Teams are expecting Cleveland to throw in a 2nd or 3rd, not ask for significant compensation.

[Punching Bag]

8 hours ago, The Wiz said:

More to the point that they basically told everyone Mayfield is done in Cleveland but they won't let him leave.

 

At this rate they are just holding Mayfield hostage for whatever they deem as a worthwhile offer. 

 

The GT money is just stupid of cleveland and I'm sure other teams are just laughing at them.

 

Mayfield may gave a paid year off just like their new QB.

If new QB is suspended Mayfield will show up as required to not be fined but will do anything extra.

If they have him in front of press he will say "I am here just so I am not fined.  Browns already told me I am being replaced."

[Don Otreply]

9 minutes ago, Limeaid said:

 

Mayfield may gave a paid year off just like their new QB.

If new QB is suspended Mayfield will show up as required to not be fined but will do anything extra.

If they have him in front of press he will say "I am here just so I am not fined.  Browns already told me I am being replaced."

I’m not so much a fan of Baker, but Mayfield should show up in Cleveland in a Hawaiian shirt and flip flops, with a cooler, beach chair, and umbrella, sit on the sideline applying sunscreen…, all under the guise of “recouping from injury”, jmo of course…, 😁

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

39 minutes ago, Limeaid said:

 

Mayfield may gave a paid year off just like their new QB.

If new QB is suspended Mayfield will show up as required to not be fined but will do anything extra.

If they have him in front of press he will say "I am here just so I am not fined.  Browns already told me I am being replaced."

Does that mean he can keep the in stadium apartment, and the groundskeeper gig? 🤔

[Punching Bag]

1 minute ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said:

Does that mean he can keep the in stadium apartment, and the groundskeeper gig? 🤔

 

I am wonder if Watson will get Mayfield's commercials?  I certainly think Mayfield will be in less of them this year.

[aristocrat]

There is always an injury and that team will be running to the browns. 

[H2o]

1 hour ago, dneveu said:

 

Huge cap hit. If they trade him, new team gets the whole thing. If they cut him he can sign anywhere and still get that guarantee. Teams are expecting Cleveland to throw in a 2nd or 3rd, not ask for significant compensation.

This is karma for the Brock Osweiler trade they made with the Texans a few years back. Houston was looking to unload salary, and Osweiler. The Browns fleeced them out of a 2nd Round and 6th Round pick for Osweiler, while only giving up a 4th. They will have to do the same to get rid of Mayfield if they really want to unload him. Or they can just hold onto him this year. Up to them, but it seems they are trying everything they can to keep him from ending up somewhere he actually wants to be. 

[BuffaloBillsGospel]

Even if he's cut 18.8M is 23rd in the league as far as QB salaries in 2022. I can understand if teams don't want to give draft picks but he might actually get more in the open market if he's released. I'd have to think that both Seattle and Carolina would have interest, maybe even Atlanta.

[Motorin']

17 minutes ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said:

Does that mean he can keep the in stadium apartment, and the groundskeeper gig? 🤔

 

There's a funny commercial in all this. The movers show up to move Baker out. He's sitting in the parking lot with an evictions an notice. But the Browns have all of his stuff locked up and a janitor tells him management won't let him leave. 

 

 

[DCofNC]

1 hour ago, Don Otreply said:

I’m not so much a fan of Baker, but Mayfield should show up in Cleveland in a Hawaiian shirt and flip flops, with a cooler, beach chair, and umbrella, sit on the sideline applying sunscreen…, all under the guise of “recouping from injury”, jmo of course…, 😁

That’s what Watson did to get the largest full guarantee contract ever, should work for Baker too.

[DCofNC]

43 minutes ago, Motorin' said:

 

There's a funny commercial in all this. The movers show up to move Baker out. He's sitting in the parking lot with an evictions an notice. But the Browns have all of his stuff locked up and a janitor tells him management won't let him leave. 

 

 

Show him stuck in the dog pound, looking all hungry, sad music playing in the background, “for only 1.1 Million a game, you can save this poor QB, give him a chance to live free and play again” (breaks to a highlight reel of Baker running around throwing the ball with smiles on his face).  “Call today and do your part to save this boy from the Pound”. 

[The Dean]

5 hours ago, CSBill said:

 

“no one’s trying to do the #Browns any favors in this situation.”  GOOD! The Browns management has worked hard to be the most loathed team in the NFL. They win.

 

As for Baker Mayfield, this has actually done the opposite for him: He is now viewed with great sympathy. Who can fault him for wanting to get out of there?

 

 

I suppose by some people. but I doubt by most in the NFL.  Yes, the Browns were/are a dysfunctional clusterfu#k.  Mayfield was part of that dysfunction, not apart from it.  Publicly dumping on your ex head coach, complaining about lack of support when your team makes a really solid roster with terrific WRs and RBs isn't going to endear you to most teams, IMO.  I hope this anti-process player stays very far from the Bills.

[CSBill]

3 hours ago, Don Otreply said:

I’m not so much a fan of Baker, but Mayfield should show up in Cleveland in a Hawaiian shirt and flip flops, with a cooler, beach chair, and umbrella, sit on the sideline applying sunscreen…, all under the guise of “recouping from injury”, jmo of course…, 😁

 

That would be epic--and would be a great theme for the next commercial.

[NewEra]

3 hours ago, Don Otreply said:

I’m not so much a fan of Baker, but Mayfield should show up in Cleveland in a Hawaiian shirt and flip flops, with a cooler, beach chair, and umbrella, sit on the sideline applying sunscreen…, all under the guise of “recouping from injury”, jmo of course…, 😁

He should show up wearing a Ben Simmons mask with a heating pad on his back.  “All this stress caused an injury to my back that no one can diagnose.  So now I have to sit out due to mental and physical injuries”.

[Gugny]

1 hour ago, The Dean said:

 

 

I suppose by some people. but I doubt by most in the NFL.  Yes, the Browns were/are a dysfunctional clusterfu#k.  Mayfield was part of that dysfunction, not apart from it.  Publicly dumping on your ex head coach, complaining about lack of support when your team makes a really solid roster with terrific WRs and RBs isn't going to endear you to most teams, IMO.  I hope this anti-process player stays very far from the Bills.

 

Seriously.  They stacked that offense and Mayfield was the main reason they sucked.

 

[CorkScrewHill]

2 hours ago, Gugny said:

 

Seriously.  They stacked that offense and Mayfield was the main reason they sucked.

 

Nope. I listened to Skip Bayless and he is confident that Baker is great .. .. maybe right below Josh Allen though Josh has to prove more to him

[TBBills]

How's that trade coming along?

[BillsShredder83]

Lol its like Baker and the Browns held a contest to see who could devalue his trade stock worse 😂 sooooo weirdddd

[Trock]

2 hours ago, CorkScrewHill said:

Nope. I listened to Skip Bayless and he is confident that Baker is great .. .. maybe right below Josh Allen though Josh has to prove more to him

We all know skip is mentally handicapped. He shouldn’t be judging others. 

[cle23]

7 hours ago, H2o said:

This is karma for the Brock Osweiler trade they made with the Texans a few years back. Houston was looking to unload salary, and Osweiler. The Browns fleeced them out of a 2nd Round and 6th Round pick for Osweiler, while only giving up a 4th. They will have to do the same to get rid of Mayfield if they really want to unload him. Or they can just hold onto him this year. Up to them, but it seems they are trying everything they can to keep him from ending up somewhere he actually wants to be. 

 

The main difference there is Osweiler had 3 years, and I believe like $28m guaranteed left on his contract.  Mayfield has 1 year.  

 

I could honestly see Cleveland keeping him at this point with no intention on playing him at all.  He would likely get signed as a starter next offseason for some QB desperate team, and given that Cleveland's front office is heavily analytics/draft pick driven, you take your comp pick and go.  Especially if cutting him only saves vet minimum when someone else signs him.

Edited May 6, 2022 by cle23

[Niagara Bill]

7 hours ago, BuffaloBillsGospel said:

Even if he's cut 18.8M is 23rd in the league as far as QB salaries in 2022. I can understand if teams don't want to give draft picks but he might actually get more in the open market if he's released. I'd have to think that both Seattle and Carolina would have interest, maybe even Atlanta.

Appreciate your opinion, but I see no leadership in him and limited ability. No team would do this to a valued player/leader. " Something is afoot here Watson"!

[GunnerBill]

4 hours ago, Gugny said:

 

Seriously.  They stacked that offense and Mayfield was the main reason they sucked.

 

 

He was also hurt all year. I said in week 3 Baker was being foolish playing through a serious shoulder injury and he would cost himself money in the long term. I'm not saying he is great. But the 2021 version of Baker Mayfield was never going to be the best Baker Mayfield after week 2 and he put being a tough guy ahead of a sensible career decision. If he had gone on IR as he should have he'd have a starting job now.

[freddyjj]

Meanwhile, video obtained by Browns shows despite skipping OTAs, Baker is trying to work on elusiveness in the pocket.  

 

 

Yes I know it's old but it never gets old!  😎

This showed me he would have trouble handling the rush

[Punching Bag]

Frankly he is a Browns QB.  Never expected him to be great even the Browns coaching staff brought in Van Pelt to teach him decision making.

[Alphadawg7]

1 hour ago, GunnerBill said:

 

He was also hurt all year. I said in week 3 Baker was being foolish playing through a serious shoulder injury and he would cost himself money in the long term. I'm not saying he is great. But the 2021 version of Baker Mayfield was never going to be the best Baker Mayfield after week 2 and he put being a tough guy ahead of a sensible career decision. If he had gone on IR as he should have he'd have a starting job now.

 

Yeah, Baker isnt as bad as people are making him out to be, completely over looking what he was playing through last year.  

[Richard Noggin]

Josh Allen was objectively BAD in 2020 while he was dealing with the same injury Baker Mayfield dealt with last season. Granted, that poor play lasted only two games (albeit HIGH PROFILE games) and went away once he took off that damned LB shoulder brace. I think Mayfield's injury was more severe than Allen's. but it's important to recognize that the bigger, stronger QB suffered a less severe injury and subsequently bounced back from it MUCH faster. 

 

Mayfield absolutely hurt his stock by being a tough guy. Hurt his team, too. But that's who he is. It's both a quality and a flaw. 

[mikemac2001]

Baker should show up and be a professional if he isn’t cut or traded 

 

he has a chance to start for 3-6 games with a talented roster get over his ego pride being hurt and show some teams why they should invest in him 

 

but he won’t he’s an asshat who thinks his f arts don’t smell bad 

[Gugny]

6 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

He was also hurt all year. I said in week 3 Baker was being foolish playing through a serious shoulder injury and he would cost himself money in the long term. I'm not saying he is great. But the 2021 version of Baker Mayfield was never going to be the best Baker Mayfield after week 2 and he put being a tough guy ahead of a sensible career decision. If he had gone on IR as he should have he'd have a starting job now.

 

I should have included this, but I actually based my opinion on the 2020 season because he was hurt last year.  And if he knew he was good enough to not lose his job to injury, he'd have gone on IR.  But he knew better.

[GoBills808]

I hope he has to start for the Browns and they win, then sit him for Watson and immediately start losing.

[Gugny]

6 hours ago, GoBills808 said:

I hope he has to start for the Browns and they win, then sit him for Watson and immediately start losing.

 

LIke Fitz and Tua, LOL.

[BuffaloBillsGospel]

16 hours ago, Niagara Bill said:

Appreciate your opinion, but I see no leadership in him and limited ability. No team would do this to a valued player/leader. " Something is afoot here Watson"!

 

Thanks! Now are teams doing it because they don't believe Mayfield is a starting QB or because they know the Browns will cut him? I personally don't think Mayfield is a backup, he's shown he's good enough and accurate enough to get his team to the playoffs at least.

 

I guess we'll find out the answer to this if nobody picks him up but I doubt that happens.