Bills wanted to trade for McCaffrey, Panthers didn't want to move him, per Adam Caplan

[Dablitzkrieg]

And?

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

Adam Caplan is just teasing TSW's own Sherlock Holmes. 😁

[Nihilarian]

If this team is going to pay a player 16 mill per...I'd hope its a new pass rusher!

[Brennan Huff]

17 minutes ago, buffblue said:

He's useless at this point. The man cannot stay on the field because Carolina broke him down.

 

I agree with those who thought we should have made an attempt at Barkley. While he is also injury prone, he doesn't have a huge contract and there's a lot of tread on the tires still. I would've considered offering a 4th, possibly a 3rd.

Yes he’s completely useless. I’ll bet the Panthers will just flat out cut him. And then nobody will pick him up because he has absolutely no value whatsoever. Maybe he can catch on with the flag football league or something 

[BADOLBILZ]

14 minutes ago, Logic said:

It's funny to me how many people are saying that a guy who sustained injuries two years in a row -- at a position where injuries frequently occur, no less -- is broken down, washed up, etc.

If you feel like he's injury prone, fine. If you feel like he's overpaid, fine. But "broken down"? "Finished"? I think that's a bunch of nonsense. He's 25 years old and there are no indications that any of the injuries he has suffered are likely to be in any way career threatening. The exaggeration of his demise by some on this forum is comical.

 

 

He had over 700 touches in two years and then started getting hurt...........he had over 700 more in college..............and he's built like a slot receiver whose game is built on speed not a 220-230# RB.

 

Maybe he's not washed up or broken down but injuries and declining production tend to happen and stay that way after huge seasonal workloads like 2019 McCaffrey.

[somnus00]

46 minutes ago, Purplebulldog said:

And this my friends is why  you NEVER draft an RB in round 1 !!

And never sign one to a big contract.

[ColoradoBills]

Thank you baby Jesus.

[Nihilarian]

10 minutes ago, Buffalo03 said:

Nope, I'd be all over bringing him to Buffalo. You have to remember, he wouldn't be a workhorse here. We would give him heavy usage but nothing like he sees in Carolina. He's the best RB in the league when completely healthy. I trust Beane, if he thought it would have worked, I do to

What another amazing facet to the Buffalo offense he would be...along with one more weapon that opposing DCs would need to account for...

 

My problem with him is the money.

[Buftex]

48 minutes ago, MJS said:

What's wrong with the signing? Please explain why you are smarter than Beane and also every single other NFL analyst who says this is a good signing for the Bills?

It seems that people who think this is a terrible signing are under the impression that the Bills intend to use McKissic as their #1 running back...forgetting that their preference has always been to have two guys that they could use interchangeably...they tried that for 2 years, before pretty much giving up on Moss late last season... McKissic is just taking over the roll that Moss was supposed to play, but he just happens to be an exceptional receiver out of the backfield, with some speed.  And, he is coming pretty cheap. I think people are looking at his career rushing stats, thinking that he must be terrible, because he only has 950 yards in 7 years...ignoring what he did as a receiver, and the fact that he barely played his first four seasons.  

 

Personally, I think this is a really great signing.  

[Dablitzkrieg]

1 hour ago, MAJBobby said:

Thank you for saying No Carolina.  If I expect to believe this and not someone just connecting dots that are not there because of McKissic

1 hour ago, H2o said:

An often injured RB who has been ridden like a Brokeback mule since his college days at Stanford, and carries one of the highest price tags at the position, was our Plan A? Not buying it either. 

Sounds like my ex gf

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

53 minutes ago, Buffalo03 said:

I actually think it's the other way around

CMC has been more injured.  But Barkley played really terribly for the last year and change.

[buffblue]

11 minutes ago, Brennan Huff said:

Yes he’s completely useless. I’ll bet the Panthers will just flat out cut him. And then nobody will pick him up because he has absolutely no value whatsoever. Maybe he can catch on with the flag football league or something 

Don't take it from me, take it from Panthers fans. I don't root for them but I live in Charlotte, and by and large the fan base here has lost hope in his ability to stay healthy.

 

And with good reason. The dude is like Marquise Goodwin now - you breathe on him and he gets injured

 

 

[without a drought]

Thank you Panthers for being a good big brother. The Bills sometimes take some crap from them but when it to something like this, it's good to see that they stillhave their back.

[Freddie's Dead]

CMC is only 25 years old.  He'd be worth a look at the right price.

[Captain Hindsight]

26 minutes ago, Nihilarian said:

Especially at #2 overall...

 

 

And...When your QB is 36 and the class is loaded with 1st round talents

[Bigantall]

49 minutes ago, NC-billsfan! said:

I don’t think they are against him, they are against his outrageous contract.

And the fact he's hurt every year for multiple games

[Big Turk]

wow...that would have been a big splash move, but I am kinda glad Carolina said no.  Dude is constantly injured.

[Augie]

49 minutes ago, Logic said:

I find the people who say "I really doubt this is true" to be quite interesting.

Are you saying that because you don't WANT it to be true?

Rumors from MULTIPLE sources last year said the Bills were very interested in drafting Travis Etienne. We know that coach McDermott likes to have a productive running game, because he has said so directly. This offseason, we know for sure that the Bills prioritized adding a talented receiving back, because they just signed one on the second day of the tampering period. We know that the Carolina-to-Buffalo pipeline is a real thing, because we've seen multiple instances of it.

Knowing everything I just listed above, why is it so hard to believe that Beane would pursue this trade? I get that McCaffrey is oft injured and gets paid a ton, but is it so hard to believe that Beane would think that a 25 year old offensive weapon like McCaffrey, with 2,000-yards-from-scrimmage potential every year, would be the piece that puts the Bills offense over the top?

It seems like very realistic possibility to me that the Bills would have done this trade at the right price.

 

I think it’s very believable that they would look into it. That is what they are paid to do. I’m also not at all surprised that they were not willing to pay the  price Carolina wanted. He’s not a franchise QB, so he can be dealt, for the right price. The injuries and the salary are probably the reasons we were limited in what we would offer, and that just wasn’t enough.  Makes sense to me. 

[Haslett_Stomp]

54 minutes ago, Buffalo03 said:

Why is everyone so against McCaffery?

 

You obviously have not drafted him in your fantasy league the past couple of years.

[Saint Doug]

Probably for the best. CMC is a beast, but his injuries concern me. 

[Milanos Milano]

32 minutes ago, Nihilarian said:

Especially at #2 overall...

 

 

OJ Simpson says Hi. 

[eball]

1 hour ago, MJS said:

What's wrong with the signing? Please explain why you are smarter than Beane and also every single other NFL analyst who says this is a good signing for the Bills?

 

He's a

 

[Wsam4031]

1 hour ago, sirebors said:

 

Link? 

sorry dont have the link handy. just tried finding it again on my phone and cant find it. It was a link off of facebook 

[Norcalbillsfan]

"Didn't want to move him" aka bills probably threw out a peanuts offer for him to see if panthers would take it.

[BillsFanForever19]

2 minutes ago, Norcalbillsfan said:

"Didn't want to move him" aka bills probably threw out a peanuts offer for him to see if panthers would take it.

 

Agreed. I HIGHLY doubt we were interested in paying 8 mil this year and 12 mil every year after that AND give up premium draft picks for a guy who can't stay healthy and would essentially move Singletary to the bench most of the time, coming off the best he's ever looked.

 

Maybe called. Made a small offer, looked to see if McCaffrey would rework his deal, and when those didn't come to be, neither side was interested.

 

Always assumed they'd look at a guy who could provide more in the receiving game, was a better blocker, and more clutch on 3rd downs when they needed to give Singletary a breather. And that's exactly what they did.

[Ethan in Cleveland]

All depends on what Beane was willing to give up. To take on that contract it would have to have been a very low draft pick. Maybe even just a swap of picks. We give a 4th and get back a 6th and McCaffrey. The injuries and the contract would have made it a bad deal. 

Whoever said no, Carolina or Beane, thank you!

[Putin]

2 hours ago, Logic said:

 

Let the panthers pay him and keep him on IR and not us 

[Helpmenow]

2 hours ago, H2o said:

Rocky lockridge, RIP

[TBBills]

1 hour ago, IronMaidenBills said:

OJ Simpson says Hi. 

Not a good way of making a point.

[Sierra Foothills]

2 hours ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

Beane “we’re gonna get a Mcsomething at running back dammit” 

 

I think it was McBeane who said it actually.

 

2 hours ago, Logic said:

It's funny to me how many people are saying that a guy who sustained injuries two years in a row -- at a position where injuries frequently occur, no less -- is broken down, washed up, etc.

If you feel like he's injury prone, fine. If you feel like he's overpaid, fine. But "broken down"? "Finished"? I think that's a bunch of nonsense. He's 25 years old and there are no indications that any of the injuries he has suffered are likely to be in any way career threatening. The exaggeration of his demise by some on this forum is comical.

 

I mostly agree with this but also... 

 

2 hours ago, buffblue said:

He was never a workhorse player at Stanford and was not projected to be in the pros, but the Panthers gave him almost 1000 touches his first 3 years. Now he's played a total of 10 games the last 2 years. 

 

I would stay far away from him, even if his contract wasn't so egregious.

 

Yes, there's little doubt that McCaffrey was unwisely overused by Carolina.

 

IF he was available at THE RIGHT PRICE and IF he would be open to  renegotiating his contract, THEN I could see a team taking him on and using him more wisely and efficiently than the Panthers did... kind of like how the Bills plan on using McKittrick... as a hybrid passing down back/slot receiver.

[Maynard]

5 hours ago, sirebors said:

 

Link? 

Exactly. 

[Estro]

Be careful with Adam Caplan. There guys in the media that are passing on real knowledge 

 

Then there's a Lotta guys that are wannabes. Caplan is closer to the latter. Not saying he didn't hear it, but hes not a guy I'd put a lot of trust in

[Hapless Bills Fan]

7 hours ago, Logic said:

 

 

So fwiw, there was this report a week ago:

 

 

If it's true, apparently the Bills weren't able or willing to pony up whatever the Panthers wanted besides Beas

[Logic]

36 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

So fwiw, there was this report a week ago:

 

 

If it's true, apparently the Bills weren't able or willing to pony up whatever the Panthers wanted besides Beas

wow. I missed that somehow. Thanks.

 

Seems like a pretty reputable source. I don’t recall pelissero reporting that.

 

If it’s true, I wonder what the sticking point was that ended trade talks. Knowing Beane, I’m guessing it was the draft pick compensation, with rumors that CAR was holding firm on wanting a 1st round pick and more.

[Warcodered]

42 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

So fwiw, there was this report a week ago:

 

 

If it's true, apparently the Bills weren't able or willing to pony up whatever the Panthers wanted besides Beas

 

4 minutes ago, Logic said:

wow. I missed that somehow. Thanks.

 

Seems like a pretty reputable source. I don’t recall pelissero reporting that.

 

If it’s true, I wonder what the sticking point was that ended trade talks. Knowing Beane, I’m guessing it was the draft pick compensation, with rumors that CAR was holding firm on wanting a 1st round pick and more.

That's a fake account isn't it?

Yeah probably fake.

[maddenboy]

10 hours ago, Buffalo03 said:

If this is true, they must be confident about getting Watson. Otherwise, there's no need for Carolina to keep him. They have nothing else

Or, since the Texans had to approve a  trade package prior to giving permission for the Panthers (and all teams) to then speak to Watson:

 

-They promised Watson that CmC would be his running back if he came to them, or maybe

 

-They promised to include CmC in the trade package to the Texans

[Brand J]

2 hours ago, Warcodered said:

 

That's a fake account isn't it?

Yeah probably fake.

The E-P-S-N gives it away as a fake, as does the 50 followers the account has.

[BillsFanForever19]

3 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

So fwiw, there was this report a week ago:

 

 

If it's true, apparently the Bills weren't able or willing to pony up whatever the Panthers wanted besides Beas

 

It's a fake account made to rile people up. Like Adam Schefter accounts where they add another R at the end hoping people won't notice.

[John from Riverside]

3 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

So fwiw, there was this report a week ago:

 

 

If it's true, apparently the Bills weren't able or willing to pony up whatever the Panthers wanted besides Beas

A straight swap of these player should’ve all that’s been on the table given McCaffrey injury issues

[Aussie Joe]

3 hours ago, Logic said:

 

 

If it’s true, I wonder what the sticking point was that ended trade talks. Knowing Beane, I’m guessing it was the draft pick compensation, with rumors that CAR was holding firm on wanting a 1st round pick and more.

I believe it was Beane who wanted their 1st to take on that albatross of a contract…