JD Mckissic to Bills 2 year, 7 million

[Warcodered]

Just now, Meatloaf63 said:

Brieda couldn’t pass protect and wasn’t as good of a runner, no comparison…

it also always felt like he was a fumble waiting to happen.

[HamSandwhich]

This is going to be a sneaky good signing for the Bills! He was sometimes the best RB on the field for the WTFs. 

[716er]

JD has 5 career fumbles, all 5 in 2020. 

[DapperCam]

I think Singletary and McKissic split reps with Singletary doing most of the running between the tackles.

 

Considering Moss was a healthy scratch at times last year, he should be sweating. I could see the Bills bringing in a late round RB to compete with him and he could lose his job. Probably a burner/KR/PR.

[freddyjj]

5 minutes ago, Meatloaf63 said:

Brieda couldn’t pass protect and wasn’t as good of a runner, no comparison…

 

3 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

it also always felt like he was a fumble waiting to happen.

And he lined up in wrong positions. 

 

FOCUS!!!

 

[Thurman#1]

1 hour ago, No_Matter_What said:

Interesting. I know nothing about him but stats are hardly inspiring.

 

And any signing like this makes signing of impactful DE less likely. 

 

I'll tell you what I think when FA ends

 

 

Me likey. And the stats aren't bad at all.

 

2020 85 carries for 365 yards, 4.3 YPC, plus 80 receptions for 589 yards. That's 954 yards from scrimmage. 3 TDs

2021 (11 games) 48 carries for 212 yards, 4.4 YPC, plus 43 receptions for 397 yards. That's 609 yards from scrimmage in 11 games. 4 TDs.

 

This guy is a really good 3rd down back type.

 

[Logic]

Someone on Twitter, I think it was YardsPerPas, said it best: 

The Bills have decided that instead of running you out of two-high, they're going to checkdown you to death.

We started to see this more and more as last season progressed, starting in the second Patriots game. Josh got really good at hitting Singletary underneath when teams were dropping everyone into coverage -- which is something he previously was NOT very good at. He finally figured it, our had it drilled into him by the coaches, or whatever, and it changed everything. 

Now, instead of Singletary -- who I love, but who is not a receiving threat that strikes fear into opposing defenses -- catching those checkdowns, it will be a guy who is really productive with his opportunities. A guy who actually DOES strike fear into opposing defenses, at least as it relates to converting 3rd and short-to-medium and moving the chains.

I also think that he will instantly be the best pass blocking running back on the roster. The extra second that a good pass blocking running back can buy a QB can often be the difference between a sack and a big play through the air.

I STILL don't love the money, but I do like the player and the idea behind signing him.

[NewEra]

The Mic’d up vids are a nice way to see a little deeper into a players character.  Seems like a perfect fit.

[EasternOHBillsFan]

13 minutes ago, IronMaidenBills said:

But this is why we don’t win Super Bowls. You need high end talent at all positions. Breece Hall is faster and equally catches passes as well as McKissic. I don’t want to just get better, I want to dominate. That’s what it takes to win Super Bowls. 

 

High end talent at all positions? You're cracked. That's not the modern NFL works. You find talented draft picks and integrate them with a couple top FAs or targeted FAs which fill the holes you have. You can't possibly have a "high end talent at all positions" kind of a team- it's impossible.

[Royale with Cheese]

 

[Gugny]

1 minute ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

 

THIS was the straw that broke that camel's back???

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

1 hour ago, BillsMafi$ said:

 

This dude has been a key cog on my very mediocre fantasy teams for years now. I approve! 

[ngbills]

33 minutes ago, todd said:

One thing I’ve noticed is that certain people are not happy unless they are unhappy. So much whining about a RB signing because they think they know more that the guy who was voted 2020 NFL Executive of the Year by his peers. 
 

stupid.

I think many that are not happy simply wanted a C Patterson, Fournette, trade for C McAff, etc. This is more a depth move that could be good or be a Breida/Yeldon repeat. We will see next year. 

[Awwufelloff]

Our Darren Sproles?

[Coach Tuesday]

2 minutes ago, Gugny said:

 

THIS was the straw that broke that camel's back???

 

I mean they just traded for Carson Wentz at FULL SALARY.

[billrooter]

1 hour ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

I get why folks are excited, and he seems to be an upgrade over Breida. But how much of those big receiving numbers comes from WFT sucking, and them checking it down a lot?

Possibly alot if it, but it proves he is a very good receiving back and will be a nice outlet for Josh and another possible weapon.

Edited March 15, 2022 by billrooter

[chris heff]

1 hour ago, BringBackFergy said:

Always liked JD McKenzie coming out of college. Fast and great field vision.

Now that’s creative and funny. Nice twist on what will now be the continuation of a great and long running joke.

[BigAl2526]

The Bills were never in the market for Saquan Barkley.  This is the kind of signing that Beane typically uses to fill out the roster in preparation for the draft.  McKissic has ordinary measurables.  He's a little lighter and a little faster than Moss or Singletary, not nearly as fast as Brieda was, but that didn't help Brieda be greatly productive.  McKissic was pretty productive for two seasons with Washington.  Prior to that he was pretty ordinary.  Though somewhat undersized, he's fairly well rounded.  Yes, he's a proficient pass catcher, but he also knows how to run and he's not a liability in pass blocking.   He's not going to be a star, but he could be productive.  Overall, it's a pretty solid signing.

[YoloinOhio]

28 minutes ago, IronMaidenBills said:

But this is why we don’t win Super Bowls. You need high end talent at all positions. Breece Hall is faster and equally catches passes as well as McKissic. I don’t want to just get better, I want to dominate. That’s what it takes to win Super Bowls. 

How do you know Breece Hall would oh never mind 

[hemma]

Great get.

I really hope he can get together with Josh in the offseason so they can start to get in synch.

[Niagara Dude]

1 hour ago, BillsMafi$ said:

 

Nothing to get excited about,  average speed( 4.56) and average size.  The name of the game is speed and we are still slow at RB,m. I am sure the experts will not agree

[Thurman#1]

31 minutes ago, IronMaidenBills said:

But this is why we don’t win Super Bowls. You need high end talent at all positions. Breece Hall is faster and equally catches passes as well as McKissic. I don’t want to just get better, I want to dominate. That’s what it takes to win Super Bowls. 

 

 

Total nonsense.

 

If that's what it took to win Super Bowls nobody would every have won one.

 

Nobody has high end talent at all positions. Nobody.

[YoloinOhio]

 

[junior]

33 minutes ago, IronMaidenBills said:

But this is why we don’t win Super Bowls. You need high end talent at all positions. Breece Hall is faster and equally catches passes as well as McKissic. I don’t want to just get better, I want to dominate. That’s what it takes to win Super Bowls. 

 

Great. Let's flip it around then. 

 

We all know we need a CB2. What if Beane spent $3.5M/yr on a low-level CB and drafted Breece Hall in the 2nd. Wouldn't we be having the same conversation?

 

I know in my case I'd rather get a solid, young CB on a cost-controlled contract than I would a RB... but that's just me.

[Hapless Bills Fan]

1 hour ago, Billzgobowlin said:

This is Brieda 2.0 meh

 

Lazy take.  I'm not saying this signing excites me, mind.

But the paradox of Breida was a very fast guy who saw >100 carries a year and 20 receptions a year for 3 years on a very good team that went to the Superbowl, but then could barely see the field in Miami.  Was he used up/injured/demotivated?  Or was it Miami?

 

McKissic has struggled with injuries the last two seasons, but he's a legit receiving threat out of the backfield with 80 targets and 60 receptions per season the last two years, even WITH missing some games.  He's seen the field whenever healthy, and they've missed him when he's not.

 

Almost 50% of his receiving yards are YAC and close to that for rush yards, so he might bring that YAC element that was missing from the short passing game as well.

 

Hope we can "get him right" and keep him healthy though

[appoo]

1 hour ago, VADC Bills said:

I watch many Washington games when they don't conflict with Bills games. This was a steal, he will take Singletary's spot if if Devin isn't careful.

JD brings the excitement. We will not be drafting a RB.

You mean he's taking Moss' spot

[The Jokeman]

6 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

Bye bye Beasley. Bills getting a backup RB/possible slot WR all in one. Not bad but still need to shore up backup TE and a veteran DE to help the young kids and of course a veteran backup QB. Maybe all these Washington guys can convince Fitz to come in as a backup. 

2 minutes ago, appoo said:

You mean he's taking Moss' spot

Moss/Beasley spot hopefully we do draft a RB and/or a CB that can  add outside depth and return kicks/punts to shore up another hole. 

Edited March 15, 2022 by The Jokeman

[John from Riverside]

37 minutes ago, IronMaidenBills said:

But this is why we don’t win Super Bowls. You need high end talent at all positions. Breece Hall is faster and equally catches passes as well as McKissic. I don’t want to just get better, I want to dominate. That’s what it takes to win Super Bowls. 

This is short sighted and stupid

 

There is this thing called a salary cap and you HAVE to find those value gems in order to fill out your roster.   You only have so many picks....the draft is a crapshoot....and if you hit on HALF of those picks you are doing well.

 

I give a rats ass on the name on the back of the jersey as long as they are giving the production needed.

[Sierra Foothills]

Without pointing the finger directly at anyone, this board always reminds me that many people make judgements based solely on name recognition. If it's not bright and shiny they simply have no ability to appreciate value. For those of you that possess and embrace this blind spot, good luck in life.

 

This is also a good place to be reminded that many fans don't understand the difference between game speed and timed speed. These are the fans who thought that Gabriel Davis was a wasted draft pick.

 

Don't.

display.

your.

lack.

of.

understanding.

 

Watch.

the.

video.

 

Post.

less.

 

 

[Brianmoorman4jesus]

I actually love this guy as a player. I know what he’s done is catch an incredible amount of passes but he’s a good runner too. I think the Bills should just make this guy the every down RB and see what’s what 

[dje85]

4 minutes ago, junior said:

 

Great. Let's flip it around then. 

 

We all know we need a CB2. What if Beane spent $3.5M/yr on a low-level CB and drafted Breece Hall in the 2nd. Wouldn't we be having the same conversation?

 

I know in my case I'd rather get a solid, young CB on a cost-controlled contract than I would a RB... but that's just me.

If Breece is there at our second round pick I will let you change my avatar to your choice. There is zero percent chance of that happening. he goes mid second the latest likely late first early second.

[Niagara Dude]

2 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

Lazy take.  I'm not saying this signing excites me, mind.

But the paradox of Breida was a very fast guy who saw >100 carries a year and 20 receptions a year for 3 years on a very good team that went to the Superbowl, but then could barely see the field in Miami.  Was he used up/injured/demotivated?  Or was it Miami?

 

McKissic has struggled with injuries the last two seasons, but he's a legit receiving threat out of the backfield with 80 targets and 60 receptions per season the last two years, even WITH missing some games.  He's seen the field whenever healthy, and they've missed him when he's not.

 

Almost 50% of his receiving yards are YAC and close to that for rush yards, so he might bring that YAC element that was missing from the short passing game as well.

 

Hope we can "get him right" and keep him healthy though

Looks like he is much faster then 40 time,  so he could help.  I still hope the Bills draft another RB in the draft with great speed,  not sold on Singletary as a starter because of his lack of speed.  This guy looks like he has some burst

 

 

[HOUSE]

His real name is Joshua Dobbie McKissic, sounds like trouble to me

[John from Riverside]

4 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

Lazy take.  I'm not saying this signing excites me, mind.

But the paradox of Breida was a very fast guy who saw >100 carries a year and 20 receptions a year for 3 years on a very good team that went to the Superbowl, but then could barely see the field in Miami.  Was he used up/injured/demotivated?  Or was it Miami?

 

McKissic has struggled with injuries the last two seasons, but he's a legit receiving threat out of the backfield with 80 targets and 60 receptions per season the last two years, even WITH missing some games.  He's seen the field whenever healthy, and they've missed him when he's not.

 

Almost 50% of his receiving yards are YAC and close to that for rush yards, so he might bring that YAC element that was missing from the short passing game as well.

 

Hope we can "get him right" and keep him healthy though

Its also a take without taking a look at the strengths of the two players

 

If Brieda could pick up the blitz he would have gotten a lot more time with the bills because he fit a need we absolutey have.   if McK can do this you are looking at your 3rd down back right out the gate.

2 minutes ago, dje85 said:

If Breece is there at our second round pick I will let you change my avatar to your choice. There is zero percent chance of that happening. he goes mid second the latest likely late first early second.

And we have larger needs so it all works out

[Sestak4ever]

This is a good signing and will drive linebackers crazy. Do I cover the running back out of the backfield or hold my ground and see if Josh takes off? Our OC should have fun with this keeping opposing DC’s guessing.

[John from Riverside]

2 minutes ago, HOUSE said:

His real name is Joshua Dobbie McKissic, sounds like trouble to me

Awesome....Im calling him dobbie

 

[junior]

2 minutes ago, dje85 said:

If Breece is there at our second round pick I will let you change my avatar to your choice. There is zero percent chance of that happening. he goes mid second the latest likely late first early second.

 

Lol this isn't my argument, so feel free to sub in whatever RB you want for Breece Hall. My points are

 

a.) it's perhaps it's a bit wiser to spend a 2nd on a CB than it is a RB, and

b.) we're doing to have to decide what positions to prioritize. 

[Big Turk]

1 hour ago, Billzgobowlin said:

This is Brieda 2.0 meh

 

Wrong. Do some research and you'll find out. Something tells me with the laziness of the take that you don't do much of that tho.

[Virgil]

Goodbye Patterson dream 🥲

[Logic]

48 minutes ago, IronMaidenBills said:

But this is why we don’t win Super Bowls. You need high end talent at all positions. Breece Hall is faster and equally catches passes as well as McKissic. I don’t want to just get better, I want to dominate. That’s what it takes to win Super Bowls. 

You heard it here folks. ALL IT TAKES is high end talent at ALL positions. He's cracked the code. Somebody alert the GMs!