ROCBillsBeliever Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 17 minutes ago, Freddie's Dead said: Bengals coaches >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bills coaches. If so, then great: Daboll is gone, and maybe we get a leg up on them. If not, then, back to the drawing board. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Boy Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 24 minutes ago, Heitz said: About those adjustments everyone keeps talking about: https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/01/30/patrick-mahomes-you-cant-go-up-21-3-and-lose-thats-on-me/ Their guys just started getting home. Ours, well, did not... But, but, first round D line picks blah blah blah…..Oliver deserves big money Yada yada, Deep rotation on line to keep em fresh and platooning …… Our number one D wasn’t all that and smoke and mirrors doesn’t work against smart players and coaches. Especially when your coaches roll out bonehead 101 prevent schemes repeatedly without adjusting 👿 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Romes Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 Mahomes two best games the last two years were against josh in the playoffs. I think he realizes he needs to elevate his play against Allen. I’ve seen many games where he’s played like today. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomeskillitMoorman Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 1 minute ago, JaCrispy said: But we have McMeathead, who is one hell of a clapper, from what I hear...gotta be worth something, right? 😉 Yup, that's what we're stuck with for now. I just wonder what the people who say he's still learning the job think of a guy like Zac Taylor that doesn't need over 5 years of head coaching experience to understand how to make quality in-game decisions. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trogdor Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 6 minutes ago, Buffalo Boy said: But, but, first round D line picks blah blah blah…..Oliver deserves big money Yada yada, Deep rotation on line to keep em fresh and platooning …… Our number one D wasn’t all that and smoke and mirrors doesn’t work against smart players and coaches. Especially when your coaches roll out bonehead 101 prevent schemes repeatedly without adjusting 👿 Oliver isn't the problem in this scenario. He gets up the middle, but our ends, specifically the right side, are MIA. On the Mahomes TD run Hughes cut inside and got embarrassed on a pumpfake. Contain has been an issue in Buffalo for a long time now. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Finkel Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 Good coaching! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROCBillsBeliever Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 4 minutes ago, Trogdor said: Oliver isn't the problem in this scenario. He gets up the middle, but our ends, specifically the right side, are MIA. On the Mahomes TD run Hughes cut inside and got embarrassed on a pumpfake. Contain has been an issue in Buffalo for a long time now. Let's re-hash the "Maybe we got Shaq Lawson" narrative... In all honesty, he would have been a boon against Mahomes. None of us armchair GM's know the money and contract side of things, but 20/20 hindsight has Lawson looking good against Mahomes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Dude Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 30 minutes ago, ganesh said: 13 seconds This is true. Our CBs were exposed and the lack of speed of our Safteies caught up with them. I just hope some fans stop talking about Milano/Poyer/Hyde as difference makers because they are not, all will have 10 million dollar cap numbers. Hyde made a excellent interception on Jones but what else did those 3 do in these playoffs especially against Chiefs? Missed tackles and not big plays is what I saw 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 I think a lot of what happened today was the Chiefs got up big earlier. Pat was feelin' himself. Just like in the early season, he was feelin' himself and got sloppy. I think his hard work during the season went down the shitter when Patty started feeling himself. He didn't have that opportunity when the Bills are there matching him score for score. Just my feeling. Well, that and the fact that McDermott's awesome defensive line rotation is bull#### and that besides maybe Ed Oliver, we don't have a single guy even approaching game wrecker status on the line. But just wait, with the 25th pick we will pick another guy who can be inactive for four or five games and/or make three impact plays all season. Yay. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnNord Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 19 minutes ago, HomeskillitMoorman said: This is truth. If you watched that game, you could see the Bengals coaches were prepared and calm, and even enjoying those big moments. McDeerInTheHeadlights is lost when things get real. Not true 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 They did very close to what I suggested the Bills should have done in this thread: (maybe the Bengals read it?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marv's Neighbor Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 53 minutes ago, ExWNYer said: Mahomes was rehearsing lines at halftime for his next commercial... He may not be such a good neighbor, after tonight. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 They drafted offensive weapons, built the D in FA and ignored the OL. They lost the trenches all season, but overcame that. They gave up 9 sacks last weeks. Until the last few weeks, everyone in Cincinnati wanted to run Zach Taylor out of town on a rail so all those on here talking about coaching are missing the point. The Bengals are on a run of luck. They should have lost in Nashville if not for a lucky bounce and caught the Chiefs after an epic game against us. If the Raiders had a QB they should lost that game too. I live here and no one saw this coming. This is a weird league. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 18 minutes ago, HomeskillitMoorman said: Yup, that's what we're stuck with for now. I just wonder what the people who say he's still learning the job think of a guy like Zac Taylor that doesn't need over 5 years of head coaching experience to understand how to make quality in-game decisions. I've seen Taylor make bad in game decisions Dont turn this into a McDermott is a weakness We'd be 20 years Into a drought without him ...he absolutely gets better yearly 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLEN1QB Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 They have a real defense. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 Better coaches Better pass rush Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pbomb Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 Without seeing plays analysis I’m guessing they doubled hill and kelce forcing mahomes to look for his other scrub targets while pressuring him making him average 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TC in St. Louis Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 58 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: The last play of the first half Bingo. Amazing they got nothing out of that. Mahomes threw that pick and the game turned. He was not throwing the ball well at all after that. Maybe he got hurt or something. He wasn't right. Maybe the team was in letdown mode after climbing the mountain last week. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
since79 Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 49 minutes ago, SCBills said: Its not complicated to me. Our entire defensive effort was basically pass rushers flying off the edge with no rhyme or reason and either getting looped out of the play or diving at Mahomes feet, linebackers who were - as usual - doing something that isn’t quantifiable to the average fan apparently, and cornerbacks playing off ball all game to hide their lack of speed/talent. Soft D cannot win in playoffs long term. They contained Mahomes, not a speed rush. Inside pressure, sticky off the line in coverage. Mahomes is a rhythm passer. He needs to warm up, then gets hot quickly. Recipe for disaster against Mahomes. Speed rush with soft coverage letting him get in his groove. Cinci had 3-4 stops mid game taking him out of his rhythm. A steaky player. In basketball A 3 point shooter may miss his first 5 then hit 10 straight. Once he hits 1-2 you may be in trouble. You need to disrupt his rhythm…. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnNord Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 3 minutes ago, since79 said: Soft D cannot win in playoffs long term. They contained Mahomes, not a speed rush. Inside pressure, sticky off the line in coverage. Mahomes is a rhythm passer. He needs to warm up, then gets hot quickly. Recipe for disaster against Mahomes. Speed rush with soft coverage letting him get in his groove. Cinci had 3-4 stops mid game taking him out of his rhythm. A steaky player. In basketball A 3 point shooter may miss his first 5 then hit 10 straight. Once he hits 1-2 you may be in trouble. You need to disrupt his rhythm…. You are correct that they don’t have a speed rusher like Henrickson, but the Bills pressure rate was consistent with CIN. The difference is that Cincy was able to bring down Mahomes and contained him so he couldn’t scramble. Mahomes rushed for 70 yards against Buffalo. He had 19 today. The Bills were flying after Mahomes but he was able to do enough to avoid them or broke free. That was the difference. The other difference was that Mahomes just wasn’t as sharp as he was last week Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuvian Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 amazing second half adjustments on D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 I agree the end of the first half rattled Mahomes. Second half he missed simple swing passes and out patterns, he resorted to scrambling backwards on a few ill advised pass attempts. He floated balls over guys heads. The Bengals made him super uncomfortable after halftime. Credit to them. Buffalo was never able to do that to Mahomes, and our D plays soft ass coverages giving them so much respect. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllin Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 One of teams defenses were magnets and glue to Mahomes and able to bring him down, while the other team played like they were covered in oil and let him run every where he wanted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreboding Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 (edited) I think us taking the lead, playing aggressive early, put their offense into overdrive in the last game and they took the mindset of needeing to score every drive. I also believe KC took the bengals lightly compared to the josh allen experience. It bit them. Edited January 31, 2022 by foreboding 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GETTOTHE50 Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 slipped under the radar like a stealth bomber. the chiefs treated the bills game as their superbowl 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QCity Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 It really looked like they took their foot off the gas when they went up 21-3. Making Super Bowl plans at halftime. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djp14150 Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 1 hour ago, Awwufelloff said: How did the Bengals hold the Chiefs to 3 pts after halftime which included OT in which KC won the toss? How were they able to do something we couldn't? they were able to get them into 3rd and 5+ and they missed. they got him sacked in the second half. they got a turnover in regulation that git them points. The second turnover in OT was an equivalent to a punt. I coukdnt see an all 22 look and see what adjustments they made. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 1 hour ago, PetermansRedemption said: 8 man coverage. Mahomes was something like 5 for 17 with 57 yards and an INT against that coverage. The Bengals adjusted at halftime, something Frazier is seemingly allergic to. I've had enough of Frazier I think. The problem is he ain't gonna be hired anywhere, and we aren't going to fire him. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djp14150 Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 16 minutes ago, foreboding said: I think us taking the lead, playing aggressive early, put their offense into overdrive in the last game amd they took the mindset of needeing to score every drive. I also think KC took the bengals lightly compared to the josh allen experience. It bit them. I think Thry took thrm lightly and being up 21-3 reinforced this. evrn though they failed end of first to score they knew they’d get the ball to start. maho es was making mistakes in the second half similar to early season plays where he missed throws or was off with receivers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 1 hour ago, gonzo1105 said: Mahomes was off, I think once he threw the pic, and the pressure started getting close he panicked and got away from what worked all 2nd half of the season. Stopped taking the check downs and started playing hero ball again which got him into trouble early in the year. Came back like a ghost today on him He kinda looked like he did against us in the first game...had happy feet and made throws that were off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills6969 Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 Cincy is better coached 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comebackkid Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 1 hour ago, Success said: Mahomes is OVERRATED. Sorry, but he is. Doesn't mean he isn't great. But somehow, he saves some of his best games for us. He was basically shut out in the 2nd half, at home. Well he's going to look pretty good when you can't defend one pass out of 44. Bill's defense needs to control him rather than let him do whatever he wants. Bengals shut down the edges pretty good. When they went after mahomes they actually kept an eye on him and maintained their Gap integrity so he couldn't run free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
97bills Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 1 hour ago, Jim said: I think a lot of what happened today was the Chiefs got up big earlier. Pat was feelin' himself. Just like in the early season, he was feelin' himself and got sloppy. I think his hard work during the season went down the shitter when Patty started feeling himself. He didn't have that opportunity when the Bills are there matching him score for score. Just my feeling. Well, that and the fact that McDermott's awesome defensive line rotation is bull#### and that besides maybe Ed Oliver, we don't have a single guy even approaching game wrecker status on the line. But just wait, with the 25th pick we will pick another guy who can be inactive for four or five games and/or make three impact plays all season. Yay. Or not even play. 1 hour ago, FrenchConnection said: They drafted offensive weapons, built the D in FA and ignored the OL. They lost the trenches all season, but overcame that. They gave up 9 sacks last weeks. Until the last few weeks, everyone in Cincinnati wanted to run Zach Taylor out of town on a rail so all those on here talking about coaching are missing the point. The Bengals are on a run of luck. They should have lost in Nashville if not for a lucky bounce and caught the Chiefs after an epic game against us. If the Raiders had a QB they should lost that game too. I live here and no one saw this coming. This is a weird league. That’s a lot of ifs for a team going to the super bowl just saying 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetermansRedemption Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 1 hour ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: mahomes said the bengals didn’t adjust at halftime. They did the exact same thing. I feel he has to say this, whether it’s true or not. Otherwise; he’s throwing his coaches under the bus. He can’t very well admit that the Bengals adjusted and his coaches didn’t or couldn’t counter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 2 hours ago, billsfanmiamioh said: Mahomes got the yips That is encouraging going forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 Their D continued a hot streak with takeaways. Looks like they got Mahomes a few times. No magic bullets here. No mythical secret strategy. Guys just have to step up and make plays. The Bills D didn’t do that. The Bengals gave up the tying points ( thought they didn’t only have to defend for 13 measly seconds)and lost the toss in OT. They took the ball away , kick , Super Bowl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 From worst to SB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 17 minutes ago, 97bills said: Or not even play. That’s a lot of ifs for a team going to the super bowl just saying 🤔 It is and it happens sometimes. Seems like Burrow was sacked every 3rd dropback laat week. Teams get hot and go on a run though. Not the first time or the last. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awwufelloff Posted January 31, 2022 Author Share Posted January 31, 2022 36 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: I've had enough of Frazier I think. The problem is he ain't gonna be hired anywhere, and we aren't going to fire him. This Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 36 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: I've had enough of Frazier I think. The problem is he ain't gonna be hired anywhere, and we aren't going to fire him. Yep. The one guy I wouldn’t hate to see leave is the one that will stay. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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