Seventeen Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 5 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: I love Fitz, and lead the bandwagon to get him into the HoF. But I don't want him anywhere near Josh with his backup curse. He can sign a 1-day contract to retire as a Bill, but that's it. For backup QB, I'd follow the Trubisky model. Keep finding those 1st round picks that were mishandled by the team that drafted them, and bring them in for 1 year. Next year is Darnold (who is good friends with Josh), year after maybe Daniel Jones, year after that Trey Lance, etc... It would poetic justice to sign Josh Rosen as Josh's backup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 Work with Josh Allen or Daniel Jones. Which would you choose? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Bob Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 It seems like a pretty simple career choice for Dorsey. Be an OC for a defensive minded head coach, get to call the offensive plays, and continue working with Josh Allen or Be an OC for an offensive minded head coach, not get to call the offensive plays (most likely), and work with whomever Daboll's team's QB is... Taking the Bills OC job should be a no-brainer if it is offered to Dorsey. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokebball Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 3 hours ago, No_Matter_What said: Why would he leave to work with much lesser QB, whoever it will be? I had two thoughts, and this was one of them. The second is, what is Dorsey's fastest track to a HC opportunity? I think Buffalo will get him more exposure, quicker. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 10 minutes ago, Roy Hobbs said: It would poetic justice to sign Josh Rosen as Josh's backup. Oof, no. We arent that desperate. But we'd finally have the right Josh! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 3 hours ago, Bangarang said: If he wants to go work with Daniel Jones then I wouldn’t lose sleep over him leaving. Sounds like a dumb decision to me. We’ll have plenty of options to replace Daboll if he does leave. This is true. If he's dumb enough to leave a future HOF qb over Trubisky or Jones, then maybe we don't need more dumb coaches on this team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damj Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 3 hours ago, Codyny13 said: I don’t think the bills would release him from contract to make a lateral Move. 3 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said: I know his alma mater The U reportedly has a salary of over $1.5M per year on the table in search for their next OC. Daboll was one of the highest paid OC's in the league in Buffalo at I believe around $2M. So I think Dorsey might have a decision to make between college and the NFL as well. He would be the odds on favorite to stay and be the OC. If the Bills aren't making him OC, then they would let him go follow Daboll Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurlyBurly51 Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 4 hours ago, Codyny13 said: I don’t think the bills would release him from contract to make a lateral Move. QB coach to OC is not lateral. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, No_Matter_What said: Why would he leave to work with much lesser QB, whoever it will be? Josh seems to give you a better chance to look like a genius OC and create opportunities for a HC gig. Not personally knowing any of the players involved, this seems objectively to be his best path assuming he wants to be a HC some day. What is his relationship with Daboll like? How close are they? I have no idea. I should add, what does McD think of him? Are we sure that he would be McD’s first choice? Again, I don’t know. He could attract some fine candidates to that situation, but I suspect Josh would rather keep him, and that should carry some weight. . Edited January 26, 2022 by Augie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardyBoy Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 2 hours ago, Augie said: Josh seems to give you a better chance to look like a genius OC and create opportunities for a HC gig. Not personally knowing any of the players involved, this seems objectively to be his best path assuming he wants to be a HC some day. What is his relationship with Daboll like? How close are they? I have no idea. I should add, what does McD think of him? Are we sure that he would be McD’s first choice? Again, I don’t know. He could attract some fine candidates to that situation, but I suspect Josh would rather keep him, and that should carry some weight. . Also could have people saying who cares what he schemed, it was all Allen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 1 minute ago, HardyBoy said: Also could have people saying who cares what he schemed, it was all Allen. I'm sure it was quite a few times 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 6 hours ago, Bangarang said: If he wants to go work with Daniel Jones then I wouldn’t lose sleep over him leaving. Sounds like a dumb decision to me. We’ll have plenty of options to replace Daboll if he does leave. I think it’s also worth pointing out that if he goes to the Giants he will still be a glorified QB coach. Do you honestly think that Daboll would let Dorsey call the plays? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 2 hours ago, HurlyBurly51 said: QB coach to OC is not lateral. Correct but he was actually the passing game coordinator. I think what will happen is Dorsey to OC, chad hall to passing game coordinator, Shea tierney to QB coach Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 Probably better to be an OC under a defensive head coach in McD than an OC under an offensive coach like Daboll not to mention the advantage of Josh making you look good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 If Dorsey has aspirations to go even farther (i.e., HC) then staying in Buffalo as the OC is by far the best career choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 7 hours ago, No_Matter_What said: Why would he leave to work with much lesser QB, whoever it will be? What he said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weatherman Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 8 hours ago, Greg S said: This is like asking would you rather have sex with a 10 or a 2. A 2 is 8 adult beverages away from being a 10! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 The Bills would be the no-brainer move (and Pegs can match any salary offer). But everyone has their own motives. 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: Correct but he was actually the passing game coordinator. I think what will happen is Dorsey to OC, chad hall to passing game coordinator, Shea tierney to QB coach That would be great, but I think Daboll will try to take either Hall or Tierney. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
In Summary Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 Depends where his wife wants to live. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 9 hours ago, Heavy Kevi said: It's clear everyone expects Daboll to get a HC job this year, including Josh who's publicly stated he expects Daboll to go. It's also widely believed that Josh wants Dorsey as OC, and McD said Josh's input is important to him. What do you think Dorsey would do given both options, to stay and OC a proven star on a SB caliber team in Josh/Bills, or does he take OC is NY (or wherever) with Daboll and potentially Trubisky? Does he stay or does he go? Bills are a fast track to a HC gig. Career wise, staying here statistically will give him better odds of getting a HC gig in the next 2 to 3 years. Doesn't mean he cant do that somewhere else, but he will have a lot better shot at shining and being in demand working with Allen and this offense than starting somewhere during a rebuild. Look at Daboll, much longer and more impressive resume...took him a long time to finally get real consideration as a HC because they had to build the offense up first then show it wasn't a fluke too. Lot of people thought he would get it last year, and that didn't happen. Yet as you look around the league, you see guys step into coordinator spots with great offenses and start getting HC buzz and mentions much quicker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl2526 Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 There are some rumors that Daboll is going to get the Miami head coach job. . If that does happen, and Dorsey has strong ties to the area because of his college career, I could see that happening. On the other side of the ledger, Dorsey won't find any better situation as an offensive coordinator than he would have in Buffalo. He would probably be well compensated. There won't be any opportunity in the league to go to a situation that is set up better for success than Buffalo. It doesn't hurt that he seems to have a great relationship with Josh Allen. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Warcodered said: All good. But does this mean he can out coach BB or Spagnolo or Staley or Fangio or Tomlin in game? It would be foolish to not look at the talent that's going to be banging down our door to be OC here. McD needs to know if Dorsey is ready to call plays for the start of peak Josh Allen or he needs to bring in the best guy possible. All due respect to Dorsey but he's never called plays. If they know he can do it and Allen gives his stamp of approval then fine. But Dorsey is not the best OC that will be available. Edited January 27, 2022 by Big Blitz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 I wonder if McBeane even wants Dorsey as OC. He may not have a choice but to leave or stay on as QB coach. 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 25 minutes ago, BigAl2526 said: There are some rumors that Daboll is going to get the Miami head coach job. . If that does happen, and Dorsey has strong ties to the area because of his college career, I could see that happening. On the other side of the ledger, Dorsey won't find any better situation as an offensive coordinator than he would have in Buffalo. He would probably be well compensated. There won't be any opportunity in the league to go to a situation that is set up better for success than Buffalo. It doesn't hurt that he seems to have a great relationship with Josh Allen. The only reason I can see Dorsey (who is from Cali) going to Miami with Daboll is because of the weather. Outside of that, there is no other sane reason to take that job over the Bills'. 19 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: All good. But does this mean he can out coach BB or Spagnolo or Staley or Fangio or Tomlin in game? It would be foolish to not look at the talent that's going to be banging down our door to be OC here. McD needs to know if Dorsey is ready to call plays for the start of peak Josh Allen or he needs to bring in the best guy possible. All due respect to Dorsey but he's never called plays. If they know he can do it and Allen gives his stamp of approval then fine. But Dorsey is not the best OC that will be available. Is there any OC out there (IOW a guy who is only available because he got fired, maybe multiple times, because he wasn't good enough at calling plays with his last team/teams) who definitively can do this? 14 minutes ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: I wonder if McBeane even wants Dorsey as OC. He may not have a choice but to leave or stay on as QB coach. 🤔 Giving Dorsey a promotion had to be greenlit by them. So yes, I think they want him as OC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 On 1/26/2022 at 11:47 AM, No_Matter_What said: Why would he leave to work with much lesser QB, whoever it will be? And on a team with a lot less offensive talent than the Bills have? My guess is that if Daboll leaves, the Bills will tap Dorsey as OC. OCs on perennial playoff teams with strong offenses are much more likely to get HC opportunities than OCs on perennial rebuilding teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 23 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Correct but he was actually the passing game coordinator. I think what will happen is Dorsey to OC, chad hall to passing game coordinator, Shea tierney to QB coach Sounds like a solid plan ... don't try to "fix" what's not broke, and that certainly describes the Bills offense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 On 1/26/2022 at 8:49 AM, Greg S said: This is like asking would you rather have sex with a 10 or a 2. Giggity Giggity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatdane21 Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 If Dabol leaves and wants to take Dorsey with him the Bills have no obligation to release him from his contract ! Refuse to let him go and have him take the O C job here ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 1 minute ago, Greatdane21 said: If Dabol leaves and wants to take Dorsey with him the Bills have no obligation to release him from his contract ! Refuse to let him go and have him take the O C job here ! I'm sure that would work well. 😳 I'm actually now getting the vibe Daboll isn't getting a job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codyny13 Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 On 1/26/2022 at 4:05 PM, HurlyBurly51 said: QB coach to OC is not lateral. If Buffalo offers him the OC position On 1/26/2022 at 3:40 PM, damj said: He would be the odds on favorite to stay and be the OC. If the Bills aren't making him OC, then they would let him go follow Daboll Absolutely On 1/26/2022 at 2:34 PM, Mark80 said: It wouldn't be lateral. He is not our OC...yet. The point is if he was offered the oc spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern_Bills Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 If he is solely focused on his career he would stay in Buffalo if offered the OC position. Established team and a franchise QB is the fastest way to a HC position. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 Why would Dorsey leave with Daboll and have less control than staying with Buffalo with more control and a better QB? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 (edited) Maybe Dorsey wants to run his own offense instead of what Daboll tells him to do Edited January 28, 2022 by YoloinOhio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 Would be stupid to go to the giants. We have a better organization and far superior QB, Dorsey will make a better name for himself here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 3 hours ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: I wonder if McBeane even wants Dorsey as OC. He may not have a choice but to leave or stay on as QB coach. 🤔 In his end of season presser, Beane made it clear that he and McDermott had a list of names both internal and external; they value Josh Allen's opinion and value Dorsey but would do their "due diligence" (the term he used). 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheektowaga Chad Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 I think Dorsey would be more inclined to go with frazier than daboll just because he would get a lot more say on the offense then he would with daboll Then again I guess it depends on if daboll would be an offensive coordinator as head coach or just a head coach Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCbillsfan Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 Just now, Hapless Bills Fan said: In his end of season presser, Beane made it clear that he and McDermott had a list of names both internal and external; they value Josh Allen's opinion and value Dorsey but would do their "due diligence" (the term he used). I remember an interview of Beane, at least 2 years ago, where he mentioned timing isn't always right when hiring various coaches. Sometimes your top choice isn't available or the person is available but a coaching position is not. If Bills lose Daboll, I would think McD would want a person with previous NFL OC experience. JMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
out Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 New rumor is Daboll , Dorsey and Trubisky to miami Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heavy Kevi Posted January 28, 2022 Author Share Posted January 28, 2022 7 minutes ago, tenderland said: New rumor is Daboll , Dorsey and Trubisky to miami Right. Well not really "new" in terms of the 24 he news cycle, but yeah that's why I started this thread. I keep reading Daboll is taking dorsey with him, but that seems at odds with Josh clearly wanting Dorsey and McBeane saying they'll take Josh's opinion into consideration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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