Utah John Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/andersen-the-bills-super-bowl-window-is-closed/ar-AAS606h?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531 He argues that this year is THE year, because starting next year the Bills won't be able to afford to keep all the good players, let alone replace the problems on the O line. This is largely due to Josh Allen's big contract starting to take big bites out of the salary cap. And since the Bills aren't playing as well as they did last year, it's curtains for us. Reading into what he wrote, if he's right about this, it's back to mediocrity, and quite possibly this year could be the start of a new drought if we can't beat NE on Sunday. Or we can make the playoffs and beat anyone. Who knows. One statement that caught my eye is that the Bills have drafted well. "Although the Bills have consistently drafted well the past few years, it’s fair to say some regression may be on the way, as is usually the case with teams that string together a few good drafts." We look at how other teams have filled holes like ours -- KC has two rookies starting on their O line, and playing great, while we have Rousseau and Basham getting pushed around, and Epenesa hardly playing. Zach Moss and Cody Ford look like busts. McBeane seem unable to evaluate talent on either line. Most of all, the fire has gone out. Last year for a couple of months the Bills played like they simply couldn't lose, no matter who they played. This year they consistently lose the close games and beat up on the weak sisters. This is not how a proud, championship team behaves. The Bills peaked with the KC win -- their best game of the year, by far -- but the Tennessee loss changed them. They haven't had the same spirit ever since. The Bills seem to have good leadership among the players, but no one is actually getting his teammates to buckle down. We're still getting stupid penalties, dropped coverages on D, careless turnovers on offense, and long stretches where the offense can't complete a simple swing pass. The focus and concentration are not there anymore. I hope Andersen is wrong, but if he's right the Bills have no one to blame but themselves. 4 2 1 11 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 They can still get good players. They probably will need to revamp their OL, which the Chiefs were able to do this season after 2 SB appearances . 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Utah John said: https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/andersen-the-bills-super-bowl-window-is-closed/ar-AAS606h?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531 He argues that this year is THE year, because starting next year the Bills won't be able to afford to keep all the good players, let alone replace the problems on the O line. This is largely due to Josh Allen's big contract starting to take big bites out of the salary cap. And since the Bills aren't playing as well as they did last year, it's curtains for us. Reading into what he wrote, if he's right about this, it's back to mediocrity, and quite possibly this year could be the start of a new drought if we can't beat NE on Sunday. Or we can make the playoffs and beat anyone. Who knows. One statement that caught my eye is that the Bills have drafted well. "Although the Bills have consistently drafted well the past few years, it’s fair to say some regression may be on the way, as is usually the case with teams that string together a few good drafts." We look at how other teams have filled holes like ours -- KC has two rookies starting on their O line, and playing great, while we have Rousseau and Basham getting pushed around, and Epenesa hardly playing. Zach Moss and Cody Ford look like busts. McBeane seem unable to evaluate talent on either line. Most of all, the fire has gone out. Last year for a couple of months the Bills played like they simply couldn't lose, no matter who they played. This year they consistently lose the close games and beat up on the weak sisters. This is not how a proud, championship team behaves. The Bills peaked with the KC win -- their best game of the year, by far -- but the Tennessee loss changed them. They haven't had the same spirit ever since. The Bills seem to have good leadership among the players, but no one is actually getting his teammates to buckle down. We're still getting stupid penalties, dropped coverages on D, careless turnovers on offense, and long stretches where the offense can't complete a simple swing pass. The focus and concentration are not there anymore. I hope Andersen is wrong, but if he's right the Bills have no one to blame but themselves. We have a lot of expendable assets on the defensive line and I’m sure josh would restructure at different times to win…as long as josh is here we have a chance to win imo. Our offensive line is playing like a bunch of guys making league minimum and he has still been successful. He also seems like he gets the best out of every receiver that joins the team which is something you want your max contract type guy to do. I don’t give sports writers any credit for comments like this…it’s not exactly a bold statement to say a team isn’t gonna win a Super Bowl over a short term period of time 😂 Edited December 23, 2021 by Generic_Bills_Fan 14 2 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 We say this every year and every year teams find ways to circumvent the cap and acquire FAs. We have our QB, that's the hard part. The rest will be determined by a players willingness to stay and management savvy and draft hits. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 (edited) I guess it's curtains for Mahomes to. Soon Herbert, Murray - and Dak already screwed up Dallas. Look how bad the Cowboys are. And the 49ers with Jimmy Gs contract. The Saints last year had a chance and I think their cap somehow was negative 50 million. The Rams seem to be able to afford people. I no longer put any stock into these rookie QB windows. None. Personally, I thought we might need 1 more year. I didn't think we were good enough in the trenches - I was hopeful sure. And yes this team could still win it all, but it will be better next year. 1. No doubt improving the oline - our anchor was in the hospital losing 20 lbs in August. 2. No doubt upgrading RB 3. No doubt bringing in more CBS - we'll get White mid season. 4. No doubt going to improve the Dline the kids are still developing and we'll be in the market for any Aikeem Hicks or Chandler Jones difference makers. Oh Hicks is available btw. 5. Josh continues to develop 6. Covid goes and f itself This roster will be better next season. Edited December 23, 2021 by Big Blitz 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorin' Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 Yeah, I heard the Bills already moved to Austin too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 The Bills have good leadership and a franchise QB. The window will not be closed as long as they have that. Maybe Allen is the next Dan Marino or Philip Rivers and never gets it done. That would be unfortunate, but I'm gonna have tons of fun watching Bills football with him at the wheel. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corta765 Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 These type of articles are kinda past their time now. The wisdom is known if your gonna pay a QB he better be able to cover your teams flaws and Josh has shown that again this year. The flipside is if you look at the big QB's paid over the last decade all of them made SBs or been on the doorstep a bunch : Manning, Brady, Big Ben, Rodgers, Wilson, Mahomes. With Brees and Rodgers they both have lost NFC title games as not fault of their own due to refs or insanely dumb plays (Brandon Bostick). If you said before the decade that your team had them and were going to pay them big time I think you'd be ok with the result QB wise as a SB title and being close other times isn't bad compared to hitting reset. The QB's that failed once they got contracts this last decade it makes sense with: Goff- Roster and McVay covered him big time and the holes became quite evident once he left. Matt Stafford is literally proving that a better QB can make the team better despite some flaws roster wise Cam- Actually did fine after until injury and never was the same player. Sucks he was really entertaining, but once injury hit and his play went down his salary limited any ability to help. Garrapollo- wasn't bad but not worth the money and the defense had a close to historically good D Flacco- Greatest one hit wonder ever in terms of success. The rosters performance after showed how money takes away talent when the QB can't make the difference. I do wonder if BAL makes the playoffs in 17' if he still would've lasted longer Ryan- He can thank his coach for blowing that team to pieces and not running the ball. Probably deserved a better fate and may not even belong on this piece of the list. In general if you are paying a QB top money the expectation should be he can elevate the roster. From there its on the GM to draft well and add the proper free agents mixed with a little luck. Truthfully I hate this concept that once a QB is paid that is it. In general in a decade there are 10 titles total that can be won and 20 chances total for the top QBs across the league to get in. In Matt Ryan's case for example they made an NFC title and a SB. He took 5% of available spots for a SB and 10% conference wise. With how many good QB's there are there isn't space for a boat load of chances unless your Brady apparently who also took some away. The history of football is littered with QB greats who had their shot and that was it. Marino went year 2 and never again, conversely Elway went 5 times and it took the 4th appearance to win. There is not a team out there who would not pay a QB if they knew they were going to be one of the top guys in the NFL for the next decade and he could carry them regularly. The AFC is loaded with young QB talent right now Allen, Mahomes, Lamar, Herbert, & Burrow and if in 2031 you said each of them only made 1-2 SB's top I would say that sounds about right given the opportunities, luck, and the sport itself. Still you'd rather have one of those 5 guys and role the dice them be the Jets or Texans who have no idea what their future is the next decade. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frogger Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 I think our window would be much more shut without Allen. Buffalo needs to build through the draft. Get the occasional free agent, likely on their 3rd+ contract that might be on the back 9 of their careers…vets that “just want to win” and castaways looking for a new start. spending 16 million a year for a guard doesn’t win many games anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGMcD2 Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 55 minutes ago, Utah John said: He argues that this year is THE year, because starting next year the Bills won't be able to afford to keep all the good players, let alone replace the problems on the O line. If you knew anything about the Bills you'd know that all the good players we have are already locked up... try not to get your analysis from a Boston sports radio station lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 (edited) It was a nice run guys. 😐 Edited December 23, 2021 by Buffalo_Stampede 1 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGMcD2 Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 58 minutes ago, Utah John said: One statement that caught my eye is that the Bills have drafted well. "Although the Bills have consistently drafted well the past few years, it’s fair to say some regression may be on the way, as is usually the case with teams that string together a few good drafts." We look at how other teams have filled holes like ours -- KC has two rookies starting on their O line, and playing great, while we have Rousseau and Basham getting pushed around, and Epenesa hardly playing. Zach Moss and Cody Ford look like busts. McBeane seem unable to evaluate talent on either line. This is also a short-sighted statement. They've been one of THE BEST drafting teams since McBeane arrived as compared to their peers. KC has been pretty pedestrian when it comes to drafting and finally had a good one... look at the whole set of facts and don't cherry pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 Consider the timing and source 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBear Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 This "article" is just a troll-job by a local Boston sports talk radio station. I don't think anyone anywhere with half a brain thinks the window has closed on a team with a 25 year old franchise QB. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blainorama5 Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 Kind of interesting to write a team's obituary when the season isn't even done yet! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnNord Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 1 hour ago, Utah John said: https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/andersen-the-bills-super-bowl-window-is-closed/ar-AAS606h?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531 He argues that this year is THE year, because starting next year the Bills won't be able to afford to keep all the good players, let alone replace the problems on the O line. This is largely due to Josh Allen's big contract starting to take big bites out of the salary cap. And since the Bills aren't playing as well as they did last year, it's curtains for us. Reading into what he wrote, if he's right about this, it's back to mediocrity, and quite possibly this year could be the start of a new drought if we can't beat NE on Sunday. Or we can make the playoffs and beat anyone. Who knows. One statement that caught my eye is that the Bills have drafted well. "Although the Bills have consistently drafted well the past few years, it’s fair to say some regression may be on the way, as is usually the case with teams that string together a few good drafts." We look at how other teams have filled holes like ours -- KC has two rookies starting on their O line, and playing great, while we have Rousseau and Basham getting pushed around, and Epenesa hardly playing. Zach Moss and Cody Ford look like busts. McBeane seem unable to evaluate talent on either line. Most of all, the fire has gone out. Last year for a couple of months the Bills played like they simply couldn't lose, no matter who they played. This year they consistently lose the close games and beat up on the weak sisters. This is not how a proud, championship team behaves. The Bills peaked with the KC win -- their best game of the year, by far -- but the Tennessee loss changed them. They haven't had the same spirit ever since. The Bills seem to have good leadership among the players, but no one is actually getting his teammates to buckle down. We're still getting stupid penalties, dropped coverages on D, careless turnovers on offense, and long stretches where the offense can't complete a simple swing pass. The focus and concentration are not there anymore. I hope Andersen is wrong, but if he's right the Bills have no one to blame but themselves. It should be noted this article was was written by a Boston radio DJ in an attempt to boost engagement/interest during Bills-Patriots week. Its a weak attempt to get attention and many of the people here, including the OP, fell for it. 14 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: Consider the timing and source Never crossed the OP’s mind. It was “fair and balanced” in his opinion 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 1 hour ago, LeGOATski said: The Bills have good leadership and a franchise QB. The window will not be closed as long as they have that. This^^^👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 This only started coming up fairly recently in NFL history, and basically took off once Mahomes signed his contract: you have to win when your QB is on his rookie deal, or it's OVER. I can only smile. It's such a poor, lazy & meaningless hot take. We'll be in contention as long as Josh Allen is behind center. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 We have a YOUNG franchise QB in his prime......the window is just starting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoTom Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 Remember last off season when we had three expiring contracts and there was no chance of re-signing all three? Beane got it done. The window is still open. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 Hogwash. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 LETS GO SABRES (clap,clap) LETS GO SABRES 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 (edited) Thanks , this allowed me to blacklist another writer.... The Bills are the only team to pay a QB and to have the Super Bowl window closed. Edited December 23, 2021 by TBBills 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 I think Beane has narrowed our SB window. By how much? Unsure. We aren’t doomed by any means, but the FO hasn’t given itself any wiggle room with missing on replacement players on the OL, DL, CB, or MLB. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Since1981 Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 Josh contract will look friendlier each year+. I just can’t imagine how good he would be with viable play action. I don’t really buy the “window closes”. BB-Evil-Empire window closed for was about how long? A week (season)?! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 3 minutes ago, Since1981 said: Josh contract will look friendlier each year+. I just can’t imagine how good he would be with viable play action. I don’t really buy the “window closes”. BB-Evil-Empire window closed for was about how long? A week (season)?! It’s more about coaching/player development than anything. The good staffs are consistently signing average players for cheap and getting a lot out of them. The pats talk is kind of nonsense…they were a qb away last year it wasn’t even close to a rebuild situation but the national media is trying to sell it as belichick turned the whole roster over in one offseason lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 Maybe that's why the Patriot organization underpaid Brady for 20 years? As long as we have the kid from Firebaugh we have a chance. Draft 5 young olineman. Cheap for 4 years..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 Man, the window closed fast. More like a camera shutter than a window. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 Gonna have a whole off-season to discuss the off-season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QCity Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 1 hour ago, John from Riverside said: We have a YOUNG franchise QB in his prime......the window is just starting This. The window is open as long as Allen is here. Do you know how many teams would love to have the problem of paying a top QB? Clickbait. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 WEEI wrote this huh? You mean the pats writer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 He’s mostly right. Line is a mess. Need a Beas replacement. Need a RB. Need safeties. We can’t fix that in 1 draft so this is really it….. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoudyBills Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, Utah John said: https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/andersen-the-bills-super-bowl-window-is-closed/ar-AAS606h?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531 He argues that this year is THE year, because starting next year the Bills won't be able to afford to keep all the good players, let alone replace the problems on the O line. This is largely due to Josh Allen's big contract starting to take big bites out of the salary cap. And since the Bills aren't playing as well as they did last year, it's curtains for us. Reading into what he wrote, if he's right about this, it's back to mediocrity, and quite possibly this year could be the start of a new drought if we can't beat NE on Sunday. Or we can make the playoffs and beat anyone. Who knows. One statement that caught my eye is that the Bills have drafted well. "Although the Bills have consistently drafted well the past few years, it’s fair to say some regression may be on the way, as is usually the case with teams that string together a few good drafts." We look at how other teams have filled holes like ours -- KC has two rookies starting on their O line, and playing great, while we have Rousseau and Basham getting pushed around, and Epenesa hardly playing. Zach Moss and Cody Ford look like busts. McBeane seem unable to evaluate talent on either line. Most of all, the fire has gone out. Last year for a couple of months the Bills played like they simply couldn't lose, no matter who they played. This year they consistently lose the close games and beat up on the weak sisters. This is not how a proud, championship team behaves. The Bills peaked with the KC win -- their best game of the year, by far -- but the Tennessee loss changed them. They haven't had the same spirit ever since. The Bills seem to have good leadership among the players, but no one is actually getting his teammates to buckle down. We're still getting stupid penalties, dropped coverages on D, careless turnovers on offense, and long stretches where the offense can't complete a simple swing pass. The focus and concentration are not there anymore. I hope Andersen is wrong, but if he's right the Bills have no one to blame but themselves. So, for the rest of Josh's career they won't have a shot...people get paid to write this bull####? That guy can suck my nuts. Edited December 23, 2021 by CoudyBills Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 5 minutes ago, Governor said: He’s mostly right. Line is a mess. Need a Beas replacement. Need a RB. Need safeties. We can’t fix that in 1 draft so this is really it….. Everyone has huge holes this season because of the salary cap reduction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Governor said: He’s mostly right. Line is a mess. Need a Beas replacement. Need a RB. Need safeties. We can’t fix that in 1 draft so this is really it….. Every team is experiencing that at some degree. You just need to draft well. You hit on a couple picks and you are right back at the top. Edited December 23, 2021 by TBBills Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 3 hours ago, Utah John said: https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/andersen-the-bills-super-bowl-window-is-closed/ar-AAS606h?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531 Who is John Andersen and why are we concerned about what he says? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern_Bills Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 These articles make me laugh, I mean maybe he's correct and we indeed win zero super bowls with Josh, but absolutely no way he actually knows that to be true. Just grabbing clicks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 30 minutes ago, TBBills said: Every team is experiencing that at some degree. You just need to draft well. You hit on a couple picks and you are right back at the top. I think another shot would be possible 3 years from now with some luck. A total rebuild would be required and we’d likely have a new coaching staff and GM by then. That’s assuming we don’t win this year or next. 1 hour ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said: It’s more about coaching/player development than anything. The good staffs are consistently signing average players for cheap and getting a lot out of them. The pats talk is kind of nonsense…they were a qb away last year it wasn’t even close to a rebuild situation but the national media is trying to sell it as belichick turned the whole roster over in one offseason lol He was already turning the roster over during Brady’s last 2 seasons there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 2 hours ago, frogger said: I think our window would be much more shut without Allen. Buffalo needs to build through the draft. Get the occasional free agent, likely on their 3rd+ contract that might be on the back 9 of their careers…vets that “just want to win” and castaways looking for a new start. spending 16 million a year for a guard doesn’t win many games anyway. Buffalo did not have a window before Allen. It was a locked door and 4 brick walls. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 39 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said: Everyone has huge holes this season because of the salary cap reduction. We’ve got more than holes. This team’s build is fatally flawed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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