Beasely update

[416BillsFan]

If this was "voluntarily" deleted, he's a must play in fantasy next week. I expect him to be fed tons of carrots if he takes his sticks well.

[wppete]

Happy he deleted Twitter. Everyone should delete it. 

[Sundancer]

He's not getting less snaps because of his social media. He's getting less snaps mostly because of Knox. They Bills can now play more TE sets. 

 

With Knox out there, the Bills have an extra blocker and (now) an extra pass catcher. Beasley is not blocking anyone.

 

Bills still need him and he will have his day but this team's makeup may not be as wide open as last year.  

 

BTW, don't see Diggs turning on the fans about getting less action because of Knox and Sanders. He's all for the team success. 

[foreboding]

3 hours ago, billsfan1959 said:

Maybe Beasley isn't the only one that needs to mature above a 6th grade level....

Welcome to page 7 of the thread. Nice to have you.

Edited October 11, 2021 by foreboding

[billsfan1959]

4 minutes ago, foreboding said:

Welcome to page 7 of the thread. Nice to have you.

 

Not sure what the point of this post is...

[Hapless Bills Fan]

3 minutes ago, Sundancer said:

He's not getting less snaps because of his social media. He's getting less snaps mostly because of Knox. They Bills can now play more TE sets. 

With Knox out there, the Bills have an extra blocker and (now) an extra pass catcher. Beasley is not blocking anyone.

 

Before we get all discursive about why Beasley is getting "less snaps", I'd just like to point out that last year, Beasley got 63% of the offensive snaps.

So far this season, he is getting....63% of the offensive snaps.

 

Last season his snap counts in games where he played ranged from a low of 30% (LVR) to a high of 85% (LAC)

So far this season, his snap counts range from a low of 39% to a high of 91%

 

I'm really not sure anything is that much different.  I think different WR get fed differently based upon what Daboll thinks will succeed that week and the defense we see on the field. 

 

By the way, last season per Sharp Football Stats, we ran a set with at least 1 TE 93% of the time.  This season it's actually down a bit so far, 82%.  The main thing is last season TE snaps were divided between Knox, Kroft, and Smith.  This season, it's pretty much all Knox.  Most of the difference is that our use of (1,1) set is down this season vs last season, 63% vs 71%.

 

Anyway,

1) factually, on average, Beasley is not actually getting less snaps this season so far.  He got less snaps the last 2 games but that could easily be matchup-driven.

2) Knox has gotten lots o' snaps in games where Beasley has too (Miami) so overall not sure they're coupled.  It may be true that Beasley got fewer snaps and Knox more last night (again, matchup driven).

[Don Otreply]

6 hours ago, SirAndrew said:

I think that Davis has plenty of raw talent, and he made some big plays last season, but I’ve often questioned if Davis is as good as many assume. He hasn’t become a consistent force in this offense, and owes some of his early success to playing with Allen. There’s isn’t much to complain about after a win like that, but we are typically a better offense when Beasley is productive. 

Which WR doesn’t owe his success to Allen? Just sayin, because they all do,  record seasons with Josh isn’t an accident, 

[BigDingus]

I remember when Andre Reed was upset about the offense not really putting much of a focus on him, having a reduced role, and seeing the team succeed without him as the number one. But I don't think this is the same thing.

 

Even if he says a lot of dumb things on Twitter & spreads a bunch of misinformation, he doesn't strike me as the kind of guy who is "me, me, me!" or gets upset in the face of a huge win just because he didn't get more personal accolades. 

 

He probably wants to contribute more, sure, but I doubt he'd cause drama over it. Allen only had 15 completed passes all night, so how many receptions could anyone really have?

 

You've got Diggs, Beasley, Knox, Sanders, Davis, Singletary & Moss, so that's already 7 people r1ight there. If you give each of them 2 receptions, and you're nearly at the total for the entire game (I know that's not the real numbers, just an example). Point is, if Allen was distributing evenly, nobody really could get a huge workload & focus. It was a team effort, through & through.

 

So yeah, it's more likely off the field stuff that resulted in his Twitter being deactivated. He almost surely got talked to about his comments regarding vaccines/Bills fans booing him. Unfortunately, he KNOWS deactivating his Twitter makes it a story in itself. Instead of just stopping the Tweets, he burned it all down so people would promptly notice & start talking. 

 

Either way, I still love the guy as a player & hope he sticks around. 

 

46 minutes ago, Buffalo619 said:

Doesn’t surprise me, esp an overly censored platform like Twitter. 
 

Going against the narrative has consequences. 

 

I think you mean "going against the facts have consequences."

 

I've never seen Twitter censor anyone for anything other than hate speech or deliberately spreading misinformation. In fact, Twitter didn't even do anything about Beasley. He did it himself.

Edited October 11, 2021 by BigDingus

[Don Otreply]

Beasley is at times his own worst enemy, when he does act out, it reflects poorly on the organization, and the hand that feeds him gets cranky.   Humans are all inherently flawed, especially when we allow ourselves to be trapped in our own echo chambers… and that goes for all of us, not just the little dummy, 

[Alphadawg7]

Keep in mind, no one on the team had more than 3 catches Sunday

 

Beasley will be fine

[Beast]

50 minutes ago, billsfan89 said:

I hope this is just he don’t want the distraction of social media. I hope that the Bills find a way to get him involved in the offense. I can easily see teams mimicking the two deep safe defense that worked against KC.

 

If that’s the case they will need Beasley to help the dinking and dunking up the field.

 

Teams can mimick the two deep but it also takes a pair of outstanding safeties and great CB's to get the job done.

 

Can they mimick the Bills defensive talent. I would argue not many can.

Edited October 11, 2021 by Beast

[Rubes]

15 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

Before we get all discursive about why Beasley is getting "less snaps", I'd just like to point out that last year, Beasley got 63% of the offensive snaps.

So far this season, he is getting....63% of the offensive snaps.

 

Last season his snap counts in games where he played ranged from a low of 30% (LVR) to a high of 85% (LAC)

So far this season, his snap counts range from a low of 39% to a high of 91%

 

I'm really not sure anything is that much different.  I think different WR get fed differently based upon what Daboll thinks will succeed that week and the defense we see on the field. 

 

By the way, last season per Sharp Football Stats, we ran a set with at least 1 TE 93% of the time.  This season it's actually down a bit so far, 82%.  The main thing is last season TE snaps were divided between Knox, Kroft, and Smith.  This season, it's pretty much all Knox.  Most of the difference is that our use of (1,1) set is down this season vs last season, 63% vs 71%.

 

Anyway,

1) factually, on average, Beasley is not actually getting less snaps this season so far.  He got less snaps the last 2 games but that could easily be matchup-driven.

2) Knox has gotten lots o' snaps in games where Beasley has too (Miami) so overall not sure they're coupled.  It may be true that Beasley got fewer snaps and Knox more last night (again, matchup driven).

 

A+ post.

[muppy]

33 minutes ago, wppete said:

Happy he deleted Twitter. Everyone should delete it. 

I dont' partake anywhere but here but I love the posted content :-)))))

[Mark Vader]

4 hours ago, CountDorkula said:

 

Buffalo has Scored 35 against Miami, 40 against Houston, 38 against KC, and Beasley had 7 catches in those 3 games.

 

They are producing without him.

 

This is his last year in buffalo.

Gabriel Davis has 2 catches from those 3 games.

 

Is this his last year in Buffalo?

[JerseyBills]

7 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

Or getting tired of not playing 

 

 

Same thing last week. He would run out n get signaled back. I started a thread last week on it. 

I honestly think this O could be better n 3rd n Cole was a 1st down machine last year. 

But we ran more 3+WR sets last year,this year not so much.

1 play in particular last night,Allen dumped it off to a RB and Cole was running up the same sideline,uncovered.  He's a professional,great WR imo and will bounce back. Going to need a guy like him to win a SB

5 minutes ago, Rubes said:

 

A+ post.

Ya. This O is built where the ball can literally go to any WR/TE/RB on any play. Makes it much worse on the defense. 

 

You look at KC and there's a significant drop off after Hill n Kelce and we exposed that last night. 

[First Round Bust]

5 hours ago, First Round Bust said:

dont go away mad, just go away

22 snaps against KC - lowest since LV game last season - team first or me first ?

[Mango]

21 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

Before we get all discursive about why Beasley is getting "less snaps", I'd just like to point out that last year, Beasley got 63% of the offensive snaps.

So far this season, he is getting....63% of the offensive snaps.

 

Last season his snap counts in games where he played ranged from a low of 30% (LVR) to a high of 85% (LAC)

So far this season, his snap counts range from a low of 39% to a high of 91%

 

I'm really not sure anything is that much different.  I think different WR get fed differently based upon what Daboll thinks will succeed that week and the defense we see on the field. 

 

By the way, last season per Sharp Football Stats, we ran a set with at least 1 TE 93% of the time.  This season it's actually down a bit so far, 82%.  The main thing is last season TE snaps were divided between Knox, Kroft, and Smith.  This season, it's pretty much all Knox.  Most of the difference is that our use of (1,1) set is down this season vs last season, 63% vs 71%.

 

Anyway,

1) factually, on average, Beasley is not actually getting less snaps this season so far.  He got less snaps the last 2 games but that could easily be matchup-driven.

2) Knox has gotten lots o' snaps in games where Beasley has too (Miami) so overall not sure they're coupled.  It may be true that Beasley got fewer snaps and Knox more last night (again, matchup driven).

 

IF there is an issue, which I would not be shocked at either way, it is not going to just be playing time/snaps. It will include targets. It is not a super far leap that a guy like Beasley who gets off on the "everybody is out to get me" (which is fine, a lot of athletes do this) sees two games in a row where he is targeted just twice in each and he thinks there is a problem. 

For reference, Beasley has never been held to 2 or less targets, and/or 2 or less catches in back to back games in his career. 

Factually Beasly's snap count is fine. His role to the offense as a whole is also fine. But that might not be how Beasley interprets it. 

I think the conversation is worth while given how loud Cole has been this year in general. Deleting twitter is a sudden change. So is his lack of involvement. It may or may not have any teeth. 

[atlbillsfan1975]

6 minutes ago, First Round Bust said:

22 snaps against KC - lowest since LV game last season - team first or me first ?

I think the Bills had 54 offensive snaps total. I really don’t think the game plan was a product of anything other than doing what the coaches thought would work. If anyone is reading to much into things it’s us the fans, and the media, but hopefully not Bease. 

[CountDorkula]

19 minutes ago, Mark Vader said:

Gabriel Davis has 2 catches from those 3 games.

 

Is this his last year in Buffalo?

 

Gabe Davis 22 on a rookie contract 895K.

 

Cole Beasley 32 nearly 8 million dollar cap hit. 

[Mark Vader]

1 minute ago, CountDorkula said:

 

Gabe Davis 22 on a rookie contract 895K.

 

Cole Beasley 32 nearly 8 million dollar cap hit. 

I think it is a bit early to be talking about the Bills possibly dismissing Beasley next year.

[billsfan1959]

13 minutes ago, Mango said:

 

IF there is an issue, which I would not be shocked at either way, it is not going to just be playing time/snaps. It will include targets. It is not a super far leap that a guy like Beasley who gets off on the "everybody is out to get me" (which is fine, a lot of athletes do this) sees two games in a row where he is targeted just twice in each and he thinks there is a problem. 

For reference, Beasley has never been held to 2 or less targets, and/or 2 or less catches in back to back games in his career. 

Factually Beasly's snap count is fine. His role to the offense as a whole is also fine. But that might not be how Beasley interprets it. 

I think the conversation is worth while given how loud Cole has been this year in general. Deleting twitter is a sudden change. So is his lack of involvement. It may or may not have any teeth. 

 

If Beasley is in the game, IMHO, there is no way in hell Daboll or Allen are going to let anything influence who gets targeted other than what is best for being effective on any given play. When that offense is on the field, the only thing that matters is moving the ball and scoring points.

[bigduke6]

i love Beas on the field,  off field,  well thats his business.   if he cant keep the two separate then its a problem.   guy still performs,  and fills a function that nobody else really can on this team.   i believe teams are taking him away lately tho,  would explain the drop in actual targets.    Diggs isnt getting tons of work either tbh.    i worry he will eventually get upset about it.     this is just a function of how the games are working out tho imo.   guys need 2 be team players if they want to contend.   drop in stats hurts them, yes,  but how badly do u want to win is the question.    its tough.   the job is to win.

[K-9]

Beasley and Davis are gonna get theirs before the season is over. Knox and Sanders have become focal points in the meantime. DCs will adjust and Daboll will readjust and so it goes.

[ColoradoBills]

2 hours ago, John from Riverside said:

 

2 hours ago, John from Riverside said:

This feels cancerous.......and I really wish that McD would just get out in front of this and say Bease is a member of this team and one of us.

 

I have to disagree with you John on one point.  It was Beasley that needed to decide if he wanted to still be "one of us".

He deleted his twitter which for him is a big way to say I want to still be "one of us".

 

All will be forgotten if he just plays football.  I see this as a positive.  Also as others have pointed out Knox's play just naturally takes away

some of his snaps.  

[billybob71]

he is on a team that can legit win the super bowl that prob has jarred him back to focus on what is in front of him

[Big Blitz]

He isn't going to run block as well as the other guys.

 

Our WRs were taken away by bigger physical corners last year vs KC.

 

Just don't think using him or featuring 11 personnel packages or 4 wide was in the game plan.  

 

We clearly thru their defense off and showed the versatility of the offense.   

 

 

I think the Twitter thing is him making sure he doesn't say anything after being ticked about playing time.  No distractions I think it's pretty significant if he did this on his own.   No way they told him to do it.   

[Jerome007]

Diggs all year and now Beasley for the last games (first 3 games he had LOTS of catches) are not as targeted as last year. It's almost weird. But let's recall yesterday Josh only completed 15 passes! He got insane yardage out of very few passes. I admit I'm surprised Beasley has not been targeted more on short 3rd down plays, that's always been his bread and butter. Yes Davis is good, but he does not fil the same role as Cole, more like Sanders. Can fans actually NOT want someone off the team? LOL. Let the Bills win the Superbowl THIS season, will you?

[Dont Stop Billeiving]

6 hours ago, CheshireCT said:

I agree with the others who say his limited snaps were likely game plan specific.

 

in terms of the Twitter crap and vaccine protest, I’m glad to see the team is showing they will not be distracted by it. If anyone is distracted by it, it’s Beasley himself, who I do think is limiting his own potential.

 

hope he stays off Twitter and refocuses on football. One thing is for damn sure, you can win the Super Bowl but you can’t win Twitter.

Best post of the thread, agree 100%...the Twitter stuff (and the resulting fallout or whatever you want to call it) has been self-inflicted. I really hope Beasley getting off Twitter can be the end of this weird chapter of his Bills career and now he can get back to helping us move the chains and win football games.

 

Great football player who has had some outstanding moments for our team and who we'll need if we want to win the Super Bowl this year. Need him back to his best.

Edited October 11, 2021 by Dont Stop Billeiving

[billsfan89]

2 hours ago, Beast said:

 

Teams can mimick the two deep but it also takes a pair of outstanding safeties and great CB's to get the job done.

 

Can they mimick the Bills defensive talent. I would argue not many can.

The Titans did it last year against Josh to some success, the Bills aren’t the only team with good secondary players. I agree that the defense talent wise won’t be matched often but the Bills will need Beasley to carve up soft zones and just in general to generate cheap first downs. 

[dave mcbride]

For those wondering, Beasley is still on pace for 88 receptions this season. He's also catching 76.5 percent of the passes thrown his way.

[FilthyBeast]

1 minute ago, dave mcbride said:

For those wondering, Beasley is still on pace for 88 receptions this season. He's also catching 76.5 percent of the passes thrown his way.

 

Yeah I think people are reading too much into things and not sure his twitter account deletion/low snap count last night have anything to do with one another.

 

I do think this is probably his last season in Buffalo though irregardless of the vaccine/twitter stuff.

[dave mcbride]

Just now, FilthyBeast said:

 

Yeah I think people are reading too much into things and not sure his twitter account deletion/low snap count last night have anything to do with one another.

 

I do think this is probably his last season in Buffalo though irregardless of the vaccine/twitter stuff.

The Bills are a lot like the Patriots on offense; some game plans will feature a player heavily and then see him buried the next week. I wouldn't be surprised to see Beasley get 8 receptions next week. Also, a number of these games have been blowouts, which skews everything. Not the KC and Pitt games, of course. 

[Straight Hucklebuck]

6 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:

The Bills are a lot like the Patriots on offense; some game plans will feature a player heavily and then see him buried the next week. I wouldn't be surprised to see Beasley get 8 receptions next week. Also, a number of these games have been blowouts, which skews everything. Not the KC and Pitt games, of course. 

We saw this last year with Isaiah McKenzie. 

 

Big game last season to end the year against Miami, then disappeared for the Playoffs. 

 

There is no reason for the Bills to alienate Beasley. He'll be needed in this offense as the year goes on. 

 

I'm not sure what he could be mad about. He had 11 balls for 99 yards two games ago, and he averages 5.2 catches per game this season, verses 2.83 catches/game career before arriving in Buffalo. 

 

Edited October 11, 2021 by Straight Hucklebuck

[Scott7975]

8 hours ago, Cheektowaga Chad said:

Still think fans/media are the ones trying to make something outta nothing here. 

 

Like the dude who is wr3 played wr3 snaps. People want this to be a story in the worst way and its crazy to me

 

The bills have had more run based game plans the past few weeks. In games where it will be pass heavy he will get more looks and more snaps.

 

Also this is kind of what happens when you have a deep offense

 

When a player is as dumb on twitter as he is, trying to play politics with Covid and then trying to boohoo call out fans, he is going to be put under a microscope.  Thats how that works.

[WideNine]

I don't think McBeane and OBD policy of keeping team/NFL policy things "in house" is too much to ask if that is the case here.

 

They seem to respect player personal choices, they have shown flexibility and support when players wanted to show their solidarity around policing reform after the Floyd incident, but in regards to personal choices that are ripe for news bulletin board material they would likely prefer that players keep those choices and opinions to themselves.

 

Just speculating, but it sounds like Bease just needs to be more mature about what he sounds off about publicly. You cannot control how some folks will feel about your opinions, but you absolutely have control over whether to make those opinions public and how you choose to do that.

 

His teammates clearly appreciate him, they are playing well and winning. If I were a coach and GM I would probably work to nip the distractions in the bud too - no one player should be bigger than the team.

 

They are all working too hard to row in the same direction towards a championship goal.

 

 

 

 

[LABILLBACKER]

Clearly Sanders has emerged as our wr2. It breaks my heart to see Cole's targets diminish. Has this whole vax issue taken it's toll? I'm also not thrilled that Gabe's targets are down too. Maybe some of those are now finding Knox. 

[JakeFrommStateFarm]

Beasley's last post on twitter before he deactivated his account.

 

[YoloinOhio]

 

[Warcodered]

8 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said:

Clearly Sanders has emerged as our wr2. It breaks my heart to see Cole's targets diminish. Has this whole vax issue taken it's toll? I'm also not thrilled that Gabe's targets are down too. Maybe some of those are now finding Knox. 

I mean there is only so many yards/targets/reception/TDs to around when you have so many guys getting it done.

[dave mcbride]

35 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:

We saw this last year with Isaiah McKenzie. 

 

Big game last season to end the year against Miami, then disappeared for the Playoffs. 

 

There is no reason for the Bills to alienate Beasley. He'll be needed in this offense as the year goes on. 

 

I'm not sure what he could be mad about. He had 11 balls for 99 yards two games ago, and he averages 5.2 catches per game this season, verses 2.83 catches/game career before arriving in Buffalo. 

 

Yup, and as we all know, injuries happen in the NFL. He'll get his chances.