billsfan89 Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 26 minutes ago, Back2Buff said: I'm not too confident they are actually good. They should have absolutely killed that Houston team. The game was close into the 3rd. They are a solid team one that I think could take a wildcard spot in a fairly weak NFC. Darnold is a solid QB, Moore and Anderson are a good WR combo and CMC when healthy is dynamic and their defense is solid. Not sure where they go long term as while I think Darnold might be a very good QB I can also see him falling into the Derrick Carr range of QB above average but not really elite unless he has elite players around him which is hard to sustain. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 29 minutes ago, Rc2catch said: I like the Carolina roster, but dang they have sent away almost every draft pick lol. I’m surprised they’re pushing all the chips in. They’re gonna have some seriously tough salary cap implications in a year or two with DJ Moore blowing up, Burns gonna get elite pass rush money, and decisions on Darnold. That is going to be the deal maker/breaker if Darnold keeps his play up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 As others stated, this was a best case scenario for the Bills. Didn't go to someone in our path to the SB like KC or other AFC contender. Didn't got to one of the favorites in the NFC to make the SB that we could face like the Bucs or Packers for instance. And while the Pats did get something back for him instead of nothing, its just a 6th. Good for Gilmore and good for the Panthers. They lost Horn and now bring in Gilmore whose even better to help what has been an impressive defense thus far through the season. They definitely got better and only cost them a 6th. Panthers are on a good path right now, and while I don't really expect them to reach the SB this year, they certainly are one of those second tier teams that could be troublesome come playoff time. Especially if McCaffrey can stay healthy in the playoffs and the defense keeps playing well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. K Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 He is a SC guy. Born there and played college for the gamecocks. Family can come to his games a lot easier now.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 43 minutes ago, LeviF said: So Horn is probably done for the year? And Carolina thinks they’re going to the playoffs. Didn't they grab CJ Henderson too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSarcasm Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 56 minutes ago, BringMetheHeadofLeonLett said: Glad it's not TB or KC. And for a 6th. Prrfect You could give BB 4 1st for Gilmore and he would still draft garbage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 59 minutes ago, Process said: The Panthers are building a hell of a team. They've done a great job turning that team around. I'm not so sure. In their first game against a good team, the Cowboys smacked them around and Darnold looked just like he did with the Jets. They've improved, but they're still not a top-tier NFC team. They have a long way to go before they can compete with Arizona, LA, Green Bay and Tampa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 So who gets fired for breaking the Gilmore released news? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 1 hour ago, The Dean said: About as good of an outcome as possible for the Bills Other than we have to play him this year 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blainorama5 Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 1 hour ago, Pabstblueribbon said: Only a matter of time until he's back in Buffalo now. So at some point do we "cross the streams" and have Bills players start heading to Carolina ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBonhamRocks Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 1 hour ago, Royale with Cheese said: A Bills and Panthers Super Bowl could be considered a Civil War. In that situation who is Cap and who is Iron Man? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StHustle Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 Seen him here at a Hornets game one time. Know he's not from too far from here and not surprised he wants to be in the Charlotte area at this point in his career. Oh and their defense is solid as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCofNC Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 Man, Carolina has a lot more faith in their roster than I do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 25 minutes ago, JohnBonhamRocks said: In that situation who is Cap and who is Iron Man? Never heard of either one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uninja Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 1 hour ago, Freddie's Dead said: Wait just a GD minute. Schefty said he was released outright. HTF did the Cheats get a draft pick for a guy they RELEASED? It's a leverage play, you announce some guy is getting released the afternoon/evening before, but releases don't become official until 4pm day of. This signals to other teams "hey, if you want this guy, give us a call" This is pretty standard stuff. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDingus Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 Well damn, if a 6th round pick 2 years from now & $5.8 million this year was all that was needed, I wish the Bills hopped on that one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wjag Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 Perfect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 1 hour ago, BigDingus said: Well damn, if a 6th round pick 2 years from now & $5.8 million this year was all that was needed, I wish the Bills hopped on that one! Lol that would not be the price for buffalo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boater Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 1 hour ago, BigDingus said: Well damn, if a 6th round pick 2 years from now & $5.8 million this year was all that was needed, I wish the Bills hopped on that one! He's not process material. He's far from it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDingus Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 26 minutes ago, Rc2catch said: Lol that would not be the price for buffalo. Definitely not, but if THAT was what they were willing to take, you can't tell me a 2022 pick of some kind... a 5th or even 4th rounder, wouldn't have been better lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurlyBurly51 Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 So Stephon gets traded for a step above a bag of tape?😀 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 1 minute ago, BigDingus said: Definitely not, but if THAT was what they were willing to take, you can't tell me a 2022 pick of some kind... a 5th or even 4th rounder, wouldn't have been better lol I would have to think they would not trade Gilmore to us. Not even a 3rd. I don’t think the hoodies ego would allow him to strengthen us. He’s still coaching to win this division. 1 minute ago, BigDingus said: Definitely not, but if THAT was what they were willing to take, you can't tell me a 2022 pick of some kind... a 5th or even 4th rounder, wouldn't have been better lol I would have to think they would not trade Gilmore to us. Not even a 3rd. I don’t think the hoodies ego would allow him to strengthen us. He’s still coaching to win this division. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DabillsDaBillsDaBills Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 Talk about asset mismanagement by Belichek. Gilmore was DPOY 2 years ago and made the pro bowl last year. If they traded him in the offseason (prior to contract holdout/"injury") you have to think the starting point is a 1st round pick. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talley56 Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 3 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: So, not released, but traded? Thank you, that was the first thing I was wondering when I heard about the trade. I don't understand how he could have been traded if he was released earlier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 4 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: So, not released, but traded? No. He was released. But the NFL decided to give the Cheaters a draft pick anyway... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 Maybe he has clubs on both hands this time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDingus Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 1 hour ago, Rc2catch said: I would have to think they would not trade Gilmore to us. Not even a 3rd. I don’t think the hoodies ego would allow him to strengthen us. He’s still coaching to win this division. He traded Bledsoe to us, and released Lawyer Milloy right before the season when we were about to play them, so who knows? I was going to also make a joke about him giving up trying to win the division at this point, but I don't want to jinx the Bills 😅 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 Best possible scenario for everyone else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 2 hours ago, HurlyBurly51 said: So Stephon gets traded for a step above a bag of tape?😀 Used 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 Oh ok, I thought I read earlier he was released? I must have misread... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 2 hours ago, Talley56 said: Thank you, that was the first thing I was wondering when I heard about the trade. I don't understand how he could have been traded if he was released earlier. Because it wasn’t official until 4 pm so an offer placed before and Carolina doesn’t have to compete for his rights. Pretty simple. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 (edited) The Cheaters must have been shopping him earlier (to some teams, like the Panthers). I guess the 3-1 start made the Panthers change their minds. Edited October 6, 2021 by Doc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PonyBoy Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 5 hours ago, Pabstblueribbon said: Only a matter of time until he's back in Buffalo now. BRAVO!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 (edited) Good trade for Carolina who lost Horn if they can resign him they have a real elite pair of shutdown corners….they are building something down there especially if Darnold continues his solid play Edited October 6, 2021 by 78thealltimegreat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 6 hours ago, Success said: A 6th works for me. I was happier w/ no return at all - but what could the Pats possibly do w/ a 6th rounder? Considering Belicheks stellar draft picks? Virtually nothing, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 Wow a 6th round pick. That seems like a low price to pay for a hard working all time great. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 5 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said: As others stated, this was a best case scenario for the Bills. Didn't go to someone in our path to the SB like KC or other AFC contender. Didn't got to one of the favorites in the NFC to make the SB that we could face like the Bucs or Packers for instance. And while the Pats did get something back for him instead of nothing, its just a 6th. Good for Gilmore and good for the Panthers. They lost Horn and now bring in Gilmore whose even better to help what has been an impressive defense thus far through the season. They definitely got better and only cost them a 6th. Panthers are on a good path right now, and while I don't really expect them to reach the SB this year, they certainly are one of those second tier teams that could be troublesome come playoff time. Especially if McCaffrey can stay healthy in the playoffs and the defense keeps playing well. Since when did everyone become so frightened of facing Gilmore? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 34 minutes ago, Doc said: The Cheaters must have been shopping him earlier (to some teams, like the Panthers). I guess the 3-1 start made the Panthers change their minds. Yes, that 3-1 start must have convinced them to cough up such a heavy price LOL!!! 1 minute ago, Mr. WEO said: Since when did everyone become so frightened of facing Gilmore? Not everyone. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 1 hour ago, Doc said: No. He was released. But the NFL decided to give the Cheaters a draft pick anyway... NFL has been giving Kraft a break for his releases for a while.... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msw2112 Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 Gilmore is the thin version of Dareus. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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