YoloinOhio Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 (edited) Matt Barkley is a UFA. He is 31 and finishing up a 2 year, 4 mill deal with 600k gtd. I would offer a 1 year team friendly deal and let him battle it out for QB 2 with Fromm and Webb and anyone else they happen to bring in at QB. If he’s beaten out for QB2 I cut him before the season. I think Beane’s comments about the Barkleys being a blessing and everything his wife does indicates we could expect an offer of some sort. But I’m sure he realizes an upgrade is needed. If Allen gets hurt, I’m not sure any available backup is adequately replacing him. But how about Brissett? He’s a FA. I’m not sure about Fitz. Worried about the curse. Edited February 19, 2021 by YoloinOhio 3 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brennan Huff Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 Thanks for stopping. Next man up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 Looking forward to the Trent Murphy version of this.. In respect of Barkley.... we haven’t had to rely on him much the past two years... and that’s a good thing... I think they bring in another vet to compete with Fromm... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
947 Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 I think they drafted Fromm to be the long-term backup. If we can save $2M or more by moving on from Barkley, the money can be better spent elsewhere. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 I chose #2, but won’t be heart broken if Webb takes his job, Webb is Barkley, but with a better arm by all accounts, Fromm..., is on permanent Covid duty for the foreseeable future, with the cap crunch I don’t think they bring in anyone who they have to pay more than what they pay Barkley, jmo... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushypeaches Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 Barkley is eminently replaceable The trouble is that we don't have the $$ this offseason to find someone that much better. Relying on Davis Webb or Jake Fromm as #2 is probably not a great strategy either 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringMetheHeadofLeonLett Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 Depends on his value, going forward, as a mentor to Allen. He's gotten high praise so far in that area, but I wouldn't say we've got one of the league's better #2's - in pure quarterbacking form - from what I've seen. Is he ready to coach? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 Barkley and Josh get along great, and the guy is an adequate guy to come in the game. Until we have someone that has proven to be better, Barkley stays. 6 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
First Round Bust Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 Josh is now a bigger boy, has played 4 playoff games including the AFC championship so I think the team needs a better backup than mentor given that Dabs and Dorsey are back for another season as well....if Cam Newton gets passed over for being a starter I would make the call if he is still sitting during training camp 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buftex Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 Given our cap issues, assuming he isn't going to cost us anything more, I am fine with keeping him...I am not sold on Fromm to be honest. Davis is interesting, but pretty much an unknown commodity. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 I honestly think it’ll be Webb and Fromm, I’d love to see the return of Fitz or Taylor. I’d have no issues with Barkley returning 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 32 minutes ago, mushypeaches said: Barkley is eminently replaceable The trouble is that we don't have the $$ this offseason to find someone that much better. Relying on Davis Webb or Jake Fromm as #2 is probably not a great strategy either I say let him go. I agree with all of your points. If Josh went down, I don't think Barkley gets you to the playoffs anyway, and if he did, they wouldn't go far... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 19, 2021 Author Share Posted February 19, 2021 4 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: I honestly think it’ll be Webb and Fromm, I’d love to see the return of Fitz or Taylor. I’d have no issues with Barkley returning Rumors of Tuhrod to Philly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddo Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 Team friendly, or cheerio. He's been an asset for Josh, but we are getting to the point where that aspect of his contribution, should be becoming unnecessary. Realistically, we could do with someone better, assuming we are still going to be contending, as there may come a point where the backup has to win us a game, and not just keep us going. I do not like our chances in a playoff game if Barkley has to be our QB. Under the current circumstances, (cap etc.) it probably makes the most sense to try and bring him back for this year only. In the future, we have to try and do better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 1 hour ago, 947 said: I think they drafted Fromm to be the long-term backup. If we can save $2M or more by moving on from Barkley, the money can be better spent elsewhere. I love the friendship Matt brings to Josh but if we had to rely on him for a game or two, forget it. He just doesn't have even a fraction of the athleticism to run this offense. Time to save the money and let Webb/Fromm battle it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 wait....i thought everyone's favorite player is the backup qb ? crazy times 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loveorhatembillsfan4life Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 I’m kinda bias to Matt. He made a cool Cameo vid for my cousin a year ago! . Lots of energy on the sideline. Good mentor. I feel it would be tough for Mcd and Beane to say Goodbye for a good soldier like Matt. I wonder if the family bonds this team preaches in the locker room make things a lot harder when you get closer to the end. Basically saying Matt we love what you have done for the organization but we need something more. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 20, 2021 Author Share Posted February 20, 2021 Barkley: unranked/forgotten apparently 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 I wouldn't mind having Dalton as a backup. Or even Tyrod Taylor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLEN1QB Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 Will not be difficult to find an upgrade for sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmishRifle Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 I voted to move on. Matt hasn’t done anything football wise to make me think that he can win a ballgame or two, or three, or four, if Allen went down. He’s not an appropriate risk mitigation strategy for the franchise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 1 hour ago, BringMetheHeadofLeonLett said: Depends on his value, going forward, as a mentor to Allen. He's gotten high praise so far in that area, but I wouldn't say we've got one of the league's better #2's - in pure quarterbacking form - from what I've seen. Is he ready to coach? Re: your last point - was thinking the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 Time to move on from Barkley. Fromm has more physical talent and is under a very controllable contract for 3 more years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 3 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Matt Barkley is a UFA. He is 31 and finishing up a 2 year, 4 mill deal with 600k gtd. I would offer a 1 year team friendly deal and let him battle it out for QB 2 with Fromm and Webb and anyone else they happen to bring in at QB. If he’s beaten out for QB2 I cut him before the season. I think Beane’s comments about the Barkleys being a blessing and everything his wife does indicates we could expect an offer of some sort. But I’m sure he realizes an upgrade is needed. If Allen gets hurt, I’m not sure any available backup is adequately replacing him. But how about Brissett? He’s a FA. I’m not sure about Fitz. Worried about the curse. I would like to see Webb and Fromm get the chance to battle for the job. A player I would like to keep an eye on is Kyle Allen, currently with the Washington Redskins. He is an ERFA, meaning if the Redskins offer him a contract he either takes it or doesn't play, but if they don't offer him a contract, he becomes a FA. But, WFT has Alex Smith on the roster and just re-signed Taylor Heinicke to a 2 year $4.74M deal, making it unclear what role they would have for Allen. He is very good friends with Josh, they train together in the off-season and their girlfriends are also friends. He's shown some ability to play in CAR and with WFT (IMO better than Barkley), so he may get an offer somewhere to start, but if not, keep an eye on him. I think Matt Barkley and Lee Smith are two of the leaders you have to make a "hard decision" to let out of the building in these cap-crunched times. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 3 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Matt Barkley is a UFA. He is 31 and finishing up a 2 year, 4 mill deal with 600k gtd. I would offer a 1 year team friendly deal and let him battle it out for QB 2 with Fromm and Webb and anyone else they happen to bring in at QB. If he’s beaten out for QB2 I cut him before the season. I think Beane’s comments about the Barkleys being a blessing and everything his wife does indicates we could expect an offer of some sort. But I’m sure he realizes an upgrade is needed. If Allen gets hurt, I’m not sure any available backup is adequately replacing him. But how about Brissett? He’s a FA. I’m not sure about Fitz. Worried about the curse. I’m very “meh” on this one. But for the sake of argument I say buh bye Barkley buh bye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern_Bills Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 I wouldn't bend over backwards for him by any means, though I do believe him and Josh have a great relationship and continuity in the QB room is never a bad thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sullim4 Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 A journeyman vet that can't cut it as a starter but can win a few games if Allen is out would be ideal. I just don't see Barkley being able to beat an average team and that's a problem. I'd let him walk. Fitz or Dalton would be my top choices. I think Fitz will command more money than we'd like to spend on the backup quarterback, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 I'm leaning towards "resign" on this one. We should be able to do better in FA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 2 hours ago, ALLEN1QB said: Will not be difficult to find an upgrade for sure Who do you have in mind? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 5 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Matt Barkley is a UFA. He is 31 and finishing up a 2 year, 4 mill deal with 600k gtd. I would offer a 1 year team friendly deal and let him battle it out for QB 2 with Fromm and Webb and anyone else they happen to bring in at QB. If he’s beaten out for QB2 I cut him before the season. I think Beane’s comments about the Barkleys being a blessing and everything his wife does indicates we could expect an offer of some sort. But I’m sure he realizes an upgrade is needed. If Allen gets hurt, I’m not sure any available backup is adequately replacing him. But how about Brissett? He’s a FA. I’m not sure about Fitz. Worried about the curse. pretty much agree with all of this. I feel Josh has outgrew his guidance and can fairly easily find an upgrade but you can't take away the 2 years he spent mentoring Josh and learning the system. Doubt there's a market for Barkley, hope he signs a team friendly deal. Great teammate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 3 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Barkley: unranked/forgotten apparently WOW! Who did Barkley piss off to be ranked below Geno Smith?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 Meh. Nothing about Barkley says we should try hard to keep him around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLEN1QB Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 1 hour ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Who do you have in mind? Heck I would take Cam Newton over Barkley. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 Just now, ALLEN1QB said: Heck I would take Cam Newton over Barkley. So you want us to sign Cam Newton as a backup QB? Do you think he would be content and constructive in that role and if so why? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Romes Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 He’s made quite a nice career from that Jets game in 2018 but it’s time to move to backup that can salvage a season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelius Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 (edited) Man, I'm torn. I love the fact that he's legitimate offseason friends with Josh and knows his role. I think there's an aspect to keeping Barkley that provides continuity and support for our star QB which I love. But I don't really want him to see the field. Nobody is looking to sign Matt Barkley so I'm okay with a team friendly deal, we're just going to need another QB with actual physical talent on the depth chart if Josh ever goes down for more than a game or two. Edited February 20, 2021 by Nelius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinceThe70s Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 4 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Barkley: unranked/forgotten apparently The question for me is less about Barkley vs. Fromm/Webb and more about Barkley vs. one of the guys above. I'm not looking for a backup to win the SB, just a guy that can run a pro offense and maybe win a game or two if Josh goes down mid season. Barkley knows the team and I can't imagine other teams are knocking down that door so I assume cost isn't an issue. With that said of the guys above I'd take Fitz over Barkley if it were feasible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeastMaster Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 6 hours ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: I honestly think it’ll be Webb and Fromm, I’d love to see the return of Fitz or Taylor. I’d have no issues with Barkley returning The return of Taylor!? 🤢🤮 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 It’s really tough to say. This decision will be based almost entirely on how far Davis Webb has come. He has never played an NFL Snap. Does the staff trust him? Is he ready? You cannot contend Without a legit backup QB who can step in and go .500. It’s way too risky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tcali Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 6 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Barkley: unranked/forgotten apparently wow---its stunning how shallow the QB position is. These guys are generally awful.Thats the problem with the NFL and has been the problem for decades.The QBing is awful. There should be a QB school that shows nothing but vids of Brady. The not very athletic(athletic enough)but the smartest,calmest,most focused,BEST QB since Montana. Maybe 7 of the above players would be acceptable for a regular season game or two inorder t o preserve the W-L record. Maybe Fitz, Dak or Jameis could win a playoff game for you...No QB no winning in the league. The best Qbs in the league exc for Mahomes and maybe JA are all middle aged men.Thats stunning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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