Mango Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 8 hours ago, Cruiserplayer said: This is like asking a true parent “What would you trade your kid for?” The answer is “ I wouldn’t!” You have never met my sister. We are all well into adult hood and I think we would still try and trade her. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston's #1 Bills Fan Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 I said this in another thread: There isn't a player in the league I'd trade for Josh. He's our kind of guy, has the right amount of swagger and keeps getting better. No thanks!! Although, if we could get Peterman back on the cheap, maybe......🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 (edited) As of now only one would be mahomes. I wouldn’t do it, but a close second would be joe burrow. I think he’s going to be a stud Edited November 12, 2020 by BillsFan130 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 11 hours ago, NewEra said: Mahomes I'd be willing to trade Josh and even throw in a first for Mahomes. Nothing else is worth a franchise QB in hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 Probably nothing realistic as of today. There is a real question though. If Josh Allen is Mathew Stafford is that OK? Is that our franchise QB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benderbender Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 He seems to have an overall esoteric value that only fans can recognize, and a skill set that most experts admit. So much like Jim Kelly. Kelly had his mobility and injury concerns. Allen has his “hero ball” and sometimes inexplicable inability to see wide open receivers. And unlike with Ryan Fitzpatrick, we’ve already accepted his downsides, embraced his high ceiling, and act amazed when he actually progresses. Pretty much the exact opposite of Fitz now that I think of it. That being said, any other GM in the league will say: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordong Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 one hundred billion zillion cagillillon dollhairs... and 32 first round draft picks in the 2021 draft 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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HappyDays Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 12 hours ago, TheElectricCompany said: Pure hypothetical, because that makes this more fun. The Bills and Saints have completed a trade: Saints receive: Josh Allen, QB Bills receive: 2021 1st round pick 2022 1st round pick 2022 3rd round pick 2024 1st round pick Alvin Kamara, RB Andrus Peat, G Really? We've waited over 20 years for a franchise QB and you'd give that up for a few lottery tickets? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheElectricCompany Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 18 minutes ago, HappyDays said: Really? We've waited over 20 years for a franchise QB and you'd give that up for a few lottery tickets? This is all devils advocate posting. I wanted to provide an imaginary example that provided the appropriate value. 4 - 5 first rounders might be appropriate. If I you had a gun to my head and demanded "trade Josh", this is the type of deal I'd pursue. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 Wouldn't trade him. Josh is the leader of this team and a perfect fit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 Never going to happen, but I'll play the hypothetical game. It would have to be for another QB under 30 who is proven (Mahomes. Not Watson, Lamar. Burrow would be interesting) Mahomes would be straight up. Burrow would have to come with multiple picks, including a 1st rounder. If no players are involved, I would say the other team would have to give us their entire draft for the next 3 years. So again, not going to happen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfbillsfan Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 There must still be a few current or former Carolina Panthers we haven't snagged yet. Might even be a hidden gem on their practice squad. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 Wouldn’t trade him at all! He will end up being an MVP QB in this league in his career. You don’t trade those guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 Severe brain damage 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoTom Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 It would take Luca Brasi holding a gun to my head while Vito Corleone tells me that in 30 seconds, either my signature or my brains will be on the trade agreement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllenReceipts Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 I would not even trade Josh Allen for either Patrick Mahomes or Russell Wilson. Allen isn't even halfway to reaching his true Ceiling. If the Bills add a dynamic TE weapon with their 2021 1st round pick, they are never going to punt the ball. Switch the TEs - Put Travis Kelce on the Bills and put Dawson Knox on the Chiefs. Is Mahomes still better than Allen? Very doubtful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 14 hours ago, Chandler#81 said: Ya got me there. This is simply ridiculous. 🥇 LAMP much? 🤦♂️ its a dumb post.... yet here you are posting. not sure why you are a mod, if you dont like mod'ing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCofNC Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 Maholmes or Wilson and Possibly Burrow are the only ones I would be willing to swap Allen for. His age plays a really large part in that vs the other guys that are “better” right now. For the next 2 years, Rodgers is the better player, but he’s in the twilight years, Breese, Brady on the downward slide, not sure they are really much better anymore when you factor in Josh’s legs. Josh has too high of a ceiling to consider any safer picks at this point. Last season, I might have taken some others, after this season, no thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 7 hours ago, TheElectricCompany said: This is all devils advocate posting. I wanted to provide an imaginary example that provided the appropriate value. 4 - 5 first rounders might be appropriate. If I you had a gun to my head and demanded "trade Josh", this is the type of deal I'd pursue. Why do you hate Josh??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 20 hours ago, TheElectricCompany said: Pure hypothetical, because that makes this more fun. The Bills and Saints have completed a trade: Saints receive: Josh Allen, QB Bills receive: 2021 1st round pick 2022 1st round pick 2022 3rd round pick 2024 1st round pick Alvin Kamara, RB Andrus Peat, G Fun? I guess, if winning isn't the objective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 Honestly, if Josh slept with a girl I was dating or my future wife, I probably wouldn't get mad. Girls come and go, a Super Bowl memory is forever. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjd1001 Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 Herbert, Kyler Murray, and maybe Burrow....all of them if there was something else coming the Bills way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 18 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Now that we've beaten that Patriots and Seasnakes, I believe any trade for Josh should proceed for compensation to be determined using a variant of the law about cats said to have been enacted in the 900's by the Welsh ruler Hywel the Good. That law went as follows: if anyone were to kill or steal a cat that had not yet killed a mouse, its value was fourpence. But if a cat were stolen or killed after it had proven itself as a mouser, it was to be held by its tail over an empty floor, head downwards so that its forepaws just touched the floor. Grain was then to be poured around the cat until the tip of its tail was completely covered. That was its value. (This would produce a substantial mound of grain) In any trade for Josh, use a variant of the procedure for loss of a mouse-killing cat. Use Gold instead of grain. Hold Josh head down by one ankle so his fingertips just brush the floor, and keep pouring gold until his pointed toe-tips are covered. Hywel's law does not specify, in the case of a stolen cat, how to persuade the creature to cooperate with dangling head-down by its tail while the grain is poured. A similar caveat might apply to this trade procedure for Josh. If compensation can not be properly determined, the trade is OFF. Oxygen supply should be assured for health and safety during the compensation procedure. I really think this would be a great trade. Can't believe no one else picked up on this. I'm sure any problems inherent in trying to dangle a guy upside down who can pancake half a ton of NFL front-seven in less than 5 seconds could be overcome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirebors Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 10 hours ago, mannc said: It’s idiotic. I have no idea how it’s “fun”. Usually threads this silly occur only in the off-season... How about this for a suggestion. Don't click on it. Or don't read it. Or don't respond. Better yet, just go away and be miserable somewhere else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muppy Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 since the 90's the Bills have been trying over and over again to identify and draft a franchise QB... and now they have one......the Most important member of any NFL team and the hardest to find obviously....and y'all are discussing a trade? .....am I being punked? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WEATHER DOT COM Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 Jordan Mills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirebors Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 20 hours ago, SageAgainstTheMachine said: Not Mahomes. Not anyone. 32 out of 32 GMs would take Mahomes right now and while I can't blame them they're all wrong. I disagree with this. I don't believe Beane or McDermott or Daboll would take Mahomes over Allen right now. And there might be a few more GM's that might actually prefer Allen. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 8 minutes ago, Muppy said: since the 90's the Bills have been trying over and over again to identify and draft a franchise QB... and now they have one......the Most important member of any NFL team and the hardest to find obviously....and y'all are discussing a trade? .....am I being punked? Yes. But my trade suggestion is still the best and most feasible. See above. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 If Josh said I want out I would consider Burrows as a straight swap, or with Jets for their next 3 first and Q Williams as a minimum. I figure that is Trevor, Williams and two extra firsts which hopefully comes close to Josh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 On 11/12/2020 at 12:54 AM, Hapless Bills Fan said: Now that we've beaten that Patriots and Seasnakes, I believe any trade for Josh should proceed for compensation to be determined using a variant of the law about cats said to have been enacted in the 900's by the Welsh ruler Hywel the Good. That law went as follows: if anyone were to kill or steal a cat that had not yet killed a mouse, its value was fourpence. But if a cat were stolen or killed after it had proven itself as a mouser, it was to be held by its tail over an empty floor, head downwards so that its forepaws just touched the floor. Grain was then to be poured around the cat until the tip of its tail was completely covered. That was its value. (This would produce a substantial mound of grain) In any trade for Josh, use a variant of the procedure for loss of a mouse-killing cat. Use Gold instead of grain. Hold Josh head down by one ankle so his fingertips just brush the floor, and keep pouring gold until his pointed toe-tips are covered. Hywel's law does not specify, in the case of a stolen cat, how to persuade the creature to cooperate with dangling head-down by its tail while the grain is poured. A similar caveat might apply to this trade procedure for Josh. If compensation can not be properly determined, the trade is OFF. Oxygen supply should be assured for health and safety during the compensation procedure. Ya know, when I was scanning responses I thought you we’re talking about Schroedengers (Sp). Cat.... is there a cat in the box? Is there not a cat in the box..., Its that whole uncertainty thing..., Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBear Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 Maybe Mahomes, but I'd view that as a wash with Josh's current trajectory. In addition to his once in a generation physical skills, Josh has special leadership skills that aren't easily replaced. I'd possibly consider a trade that would net us Trevor Lawrence and 3 additional first round picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 Mahomes would be the only player I would trade Josh for. Now I do think that Wilson, Rodgers and one of two other QB's might be better but I think that if I am designing a fit for this system and environment only Mahomes is over Josh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinceThe70s Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 What would it take for me to trade Josh? A lobotomy. We've been waiting to find our guy at QB since 1997 and it finally appears that the search is over. I'm not interested in starting over even if it meant the potential of Trevor Lawrence. Allen has started to realize his potential and I'm all in to see how far he's able to take it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wacka Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 A brain tumor. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 I wouldn’t trade Allen for Mahommes, and here is why. Mahommes has the biggest contract in history. And while he DESERVES it, it’s one that may be problematic as the years go by in terms of balancing out the roster. If Allen continues to ascend into top 3 status, he will be in line for his own mega deal. But my gut tells me that winning and playing in Buffalo are priorities one and two on his list and that he will be more likely to get paid but in a more team friendly contract to help insure Beane has more opportunities to keep the best roster possible around him. So as we sit here today, I wouldn’t entertain any trade offers for Josh. There isn’t anyone who is a better fit IMO for this team than Josh right based on how he is playing and what he means to this team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddo Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 Mahomes plus Andy Reid. The apprentice is not at the level of the master yet. Also, they are a proven winning combination. Tbh even then I would have to think very hard about it. Allen simply seems to be the right fit for Buffalo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 I’d trade him for a Herbert and a couple first rounders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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