Billsfan1972 Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 No I don't want him to be Lamar or Kyler, but not one run this week (QB sneak for TD notwithstanding), but wondering as to the reasoning. Seemed there were some opportunities and certainly understand being careful after the injury, however this too was evident in the LA game too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelingOnYouboty Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 I like it. Pick your spots Joshua. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 the team learned how strangely important 300 yard passing games are to you, and decided to tone back the running 5 26 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan1972 Posted October 5, 2020 Author Share Posted October 5, 2020 Just now, teef said: the team learned how strangely important 300 yard passing games are to you, and decided to tone back the running Just interesting that he hasn't run at all..... And only 288 yesterday......😡 Expect more from Allen!!!!😜 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Dude Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said: No I don't want him to be Lamar or Kyler, but not one run this week (QB sneak for TD notwithstanding), but wondering as to the reasoning. Seemed there were some opportunities and certainly understand being careful after the injury, however this too was evident in the LA game too. To enjoy a long career it's better to play from the pocket and not expose himself to open field shots, the threat of him running and being able to is enough. I don't want him returning to the days of 100 plus yards running and have all the bumps and injuries that go along with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 Because Daboll finally realized he was a complete QB 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 Career longevity? As long as teams still fear it and play against it, it's ok not to have your QB running 10 times a game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramza86 Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 Been wondering that too. I think teams are still planning against his running ability and hes good enough now to make that work for him without running. Has to be right? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 Since he was so efficient throwing it, they saw too many openings to change things up. And Allen had an injury so why risk hurting the shoulder even more? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 Hard to run as much with those cantaloupes he's carrying. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, H2o said: Because Daboll finally realized he was a complete QB Or maybe now that Allen has improved as a passer (and mad props to him for that), Daboll doesn’t need him to run as much in order to be successful. If Allen keeps this up 🤞Daboll is going to be a serious HC candidate this offseason. Edited October 5, 2020 by BarleyNY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLTbills Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 Because he's gotten so good at playing QB, he doesn't have to? Scored 30 points without him gaining a positive yard on the ground. I'll take that formula and keep my QB healthy all day. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PirateHookerMD Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 He is having so much success from the pocket that it seems unnecessary. They are also probably keeping it off of film now and "saving it" for certain scenarios and games. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloTX Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 Why run when you have the keys to this WR group? 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 (edited) Maybe they realized that if he gets hurt the season is over? Or maybe they now see he can fire the ball all over the field and make all of the throws? I anticipate when the playoffs come all plays will be open and he will run more. Edited October 5, 2020 by Dablitzkrieg 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Joshin' Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 Running will be strategic when needed. The threat keeps the D off balance so you need to show it at times. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 Raiders proved themselves to be nearly as dirty as the Jets. I think it was a good decision in this game. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 Saving it for the Super Bowl. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 You Mix it up and keep defenses guessing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rew Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 I believe that the run heavy plan in game 1 was very intentional. They want teams to know Josh can run well, and run at will. They will continue to keep enough of it on tape to affect defensive play calling. You won't see a run heavy game again until the defense stops guarding against it. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 (edited) They probably don't want him running much if they don't have to. IMO this is pretty obvious. And sensible. Edited October 5, 2020 by Thurman#1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 (edited) Allen passing the ball is a higher percentage play than Allen running the ball. This is a positive development. Both Allen and Daboll have realized this. Allen still thinks he's Superman though when plays breakdown. That's going to be tough to coach out of him. Edited October 5, 2020 by Buffalo_Stampede 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 23 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said: No I don't want him to be Lamar or Kyler, but not one run this week (QB sneak for TD notwithstanding), but wondering as to the reasoning. Seemed there were some opportunities and certainly understand being careful after the injury, however this too was evident in the LA game too. his receivers are always open 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DasNootz Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 The line is giving him a great pocket, and he is picking apart defensive backfields. QBs like Aaron Rodgers stick around in this league - QBs like RGIII have smaller windows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 (edited) Simple: he’s better at throwing it than he is at rushing Edited October 5, 2020 by thebandit27 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2003Contenders Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 (edited) Looking at it game-by-game, what we saw against the Jets in Game 1 was a similar (albeit, significantly improved) formula that was used last season -- with Josh using his running ability as a heavy part of the the game plan. That same week, the Dolphins were heavily gashed by Cam Newton -- so fearing a similar fate against the Bills in Week 2, the coaching staff focused on taking that part of the game away from Josh in Week 2. The Miami gameplan was to keep Josh in the pocket and force him to beat them with his arm -- which he did to the tune of over 400 yards passing. That game was the real coming out party for Josh as a complete QB. You could really see in that game how the light switch has come on for him -- and how much the game has slowed down. He is reading defenses much better now and can survey the whole field. Remember in reviewing game film last season how many open receivers we would see that Josh missed? Not so much this year. He is seeing the field much better, trusting what he sees (trusting his supporting cast better too) -- and less inclined to take off and run. Since the Miami game, Dabol and the coaching staff have been content to not fix what ain't broken. Josh's running ability is a significant element of his arsenal, but as long as teams are respecting that part of his game and allowing our deep corps of receivers to see one-on-one coverage, we will continue to see more passing from Josh. It will be interesting to see what happens when we start facing better defenses. Edited October 5, 2020 by 2003Contenders 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 I don’t like seeing him run.. It’s an ACL injury waiting to happen.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBennett Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 Why do it when you dont need it..on quite a few plays the other team has people "spying"(if you dont believe it go look at the tape and watch) Allen..whats that do////leaves 1 less guy in the pass protection as he is spying Allen..YAY! And whats good? with this WR group(top 3 in the NFL) 1 less guy covering them and watching Allen instead = awesome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YattaOkasan Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 Someone said it up thread but I think it bears repeating. They wanted it on tape. They will use it when think they need to, but I think they like the threat of it more than actually doing it. This a passing team (Raiders have been run out the building and we went 60-40 pass). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBennett Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, Victory Formation said: I don’t like seeing him run.. It’s an ACL injury waiting to happen.. Ever notice the 2X Allen really got "hurt" it was in the pocket? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penfield45 Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 (edited) good. I don't want my franchise QB running around taking hits when we clearly don't need him to designed QB runs are a waste of time. too many things need to go right for it to work. if allen needs to run he can do it when its needed Edited October 5, 2020 by Penfield45 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 3 minutes ago, CBennett said: Ever notice the 2X Allen really got "hurt" it was in the pocket? Fair enough.. it’s more of the “I’m going to run over this LB and leapfrog this safety” kind of plays that worry me.. Save those type of runs for playoff games and vital moments.. Scrambling East to West and dropping a dime 50 yards down the field though is fantastic.. more of that please! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan1972 Posted October 5, 2020 Author Share Posted October 5, 2020 Haven't seen him the last two weeks run when protection breaks down or out of the pocket either. I don't want too many designed runs, just haven't seen any scrambles either the last two weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoTom Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 Simple answer: it hasn't been necessary. Yes, there have been opportunities, but Josh has improved as a passer and our receiving corps took a huge leap forward with Diggs, Davis (a big surprise), and an improved Beasley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 He's been able to harm man coverage in the air more than with his legs this year - in the past that wasn't the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmur66 Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 No running and heck, I even saw him throw the ball away once. I was shocked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 Josh Allen is seeing the field NEXT LEVEL style. I think he is wanting to use his elusiveness, athleticism and strength to transition into more Aaron Rodgers/Ben Roethlisberger style of play to look at opportunities down the field as opposed to running for first downs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 We will face a defense at one point that gets pressure pretty quick and we will see some scrambles. Our line has done an amazing job on pass pro. Allen was running around and fumbling in past games and it looks like they stressed it in film so he’s slowed it down 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeastMaster Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 Many of his runs have been due to pressure in the pocket. We didn't see much of that yesterday. When it is needed, he will utilize that part of his game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maynard Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 It’s simple. The game has slowed down for him. He isn’t panicking anymore and actually has legit talent at the WR spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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