billsfan89 Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 I will give Josh a B. This game showed off what he still has to work on. Ball security and turnover aversion. He needs to hold onto the ball with two hands, he will have a lot more fumbles lost that could cost this team games if he continues with that sloppy habit. However he did get this team 5 TD's and put together the comeback when it mattered most. Another blatant issue in my opinion was the unsportsmen like conduct penalty which made a bad situation worse. Josh had a good game but it should have been a great game. He has somethings he needs to work on but he is getting there. Hopefully he handles Vegas and this team can get 4-0. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 (edited) 12 minutes ago, rayray808 said: WEEK ONE: B+ WEEK TWO: A+ WEEK THREE: B+ 24/33 - 73% completion - 311 yards - 4 TDs 1 INT - 8 yards rushing - 1 rushing TD - 1 fumble Before the pitchforks come out regarding my grade let me make one thing clear: Josh had some really bad plays that could/should have lost us the game... we still won, but it does not erase those head scratching, game crippling plays. You take those away? He has another A+ game. All I ask is you don't let the flashy fantasy scores blind your assessment of his play this week. With that said, here is what I loved: - Flawless first half of football. He was in command at all times and showed franchise qualities that he is indeed the dude. - Trusting his WR's and spreading the ball all around the field - a mix of fastballs and loft change ups - his touch is unreal right now (Diggs laser in the endzone vs Ramsey was amazing) - He is our offense. 5 TD's total most importantly... - when things were bad, and we knew it was Josh Allen time, deep down I knew he would somehow pull it off. It reminded me of watching Brett Favre back in the day, or even Rodgers now. The 3rd down and long to Beez was just amazing. Then to follow it up with a game winner was must see TV! As Josh progresses and starts becoming weekly MVP talk, we need to be more critical and hopefully clean up the head scratching moments. Yes, maybe the INT should not have counted, but it did and lead to a complete snowball effect of a Rams comeback. Yes, when he avoids the blitz he sometimes makes nice throws down the field however yelling at a ref after a play and taking sacks in moments where we absolutely cannot allow it just cannot happen if we want to win playoff games. Need proof? Watch our last playoff game. Overall, Josh is playing at an incredible level and as a Bills fan I could not be happier. I invested tons of $$ in his rookie cards 3 years ago and right now those prices have absolutely sky rocketed. People are starting to believe, and I am sure networks are calling the league right now trying to get more Josh Allen on TV. B+ vs A-, who cares. We should all be celebrating as Bills fans. We have waited a LOOOONG TIME for this. GO BILLS! Josh Allen Season Report Card: Week 1: M Week 2: V Week 3: P Edited September 27, 2020 by Sherlock Holmes 4 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 1 minute ago, Warcodered said: B+ today he was great on offensive but he could play a little better on defense.🙄 Honestly Josh in the middle of the Defense very likely would improve things. 2 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VW82 Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 INT* I thought all turnovers are reviewed at league office now? Cue the NFL removing that play from their site or burying it under some other play like our "missed FG" from wk1. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numark3 Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 Just now, FireChans said: Yeah lol. It's an A vs a B+. Chill out. okie dokie lol. Just pointing out that our QB is on pace for 70 TDs, and this guy won't give him As 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenosha2Buffalo Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 This thread went well loll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuckyBoys Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 Gets a A Overcome a defensive collapse and came through in the 4th quarter yet again even while under duress from the best defensive player in football 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atomicpwrd Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 I agree with the OP...the old Josh came out in the second half...careless holding the ball, upsportsmanlike conduct, fumble, happy feet in the pocket. He did get it together enough to win in the end, but wow, the last quarter was UGLY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 Just now, Buffalo Boy said: It WASNT an interception!!!! They can say it was, and you can believe it, but it wasn’t. Do you have eyes???? Do you believe them???? Or do you just believe what the broadcast tells you EVEN when you can see it is wrong? When the both players come down with the all it Is the offenses Ball! NFL rule, not mine😘 Stats say int Like an error in baseball who cares? Not like they are overturning now. Get over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, Crayola64 said: Yup, and this grader has 2/3 games below an A. Again, your grading system is objectively wrong if you are grading someone on average below an A when he is pacing for a record breaking season. Obviously, he won't keep up with pace. Just funny a 5 TD game where he carried the entire team on his back, is a B+ because of some bad plays. Um Duh, that's how one grades, no? First of all, let me say the grades are entirely meaningless. A win is a win. But when I taught, you lost points for mistakes. An A+ is completely mistake proof AND exceptional. It goes down from there. There were enough mistakes to take it to a B+ IMO.. BTW I think a B+ is a VERY VERY good grade. A C is average. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 Just now, Crayola64 said: okie dokie lol. Just pointing out that our QB is on pace for 70 TDs, and this guy won't give him As 😂 Josh had some struggles in the final 20 minutes. The fumble. The facemask. Took a couple bad sacks. To me, an A+ is a flawless game. An A is near flawless. And a B + is a really good game. B+ is reasonable. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 1 minute ago, whatdrought said: Honestly Josh in the middle of the Defense very likely would improve things. He would pull a Bateman in the Movie The Replacements. Coach: get me the ball JA You want the ball? Coach: yes JA: I will get you the ball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwistofFate Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 A- he got shaky at the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace Frog Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 14 minutes ago, thronethinker said: Without Josh we are 1 and 2 now. That is all. Totally disagree with you. Without Josh, we are 0-3. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobChalmers Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 19 minutes ago, rayray808 said: WEEK ONE: B+ WEEK TWO: A+ WEEK THREE: B+ 24/33 - 73% completion - 311 yards - 4 TDs 1* INT - 8 yards rushing - 1 rushing TD - 1 fumble Scoring that interception means you didn't watch the game, sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big74Mac Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 The guy is unreal and a Hoss to bring down. One of the fastest starts ever in NFL history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobChalmers Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 17 minutes ago, The Dean said: You do know he was credited with one INT today, right? It was BS, but it an INT. Very nice game. But a few sloppy plays puts my score at B+ as well. Not going to grade him on plays called from a gambling hall in Vegas, sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Dude Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 17 minutes ago, rayray808 said: WEEK ONE: B+ WEEK TWO: A+ WEEK THREE: B+ 24/33 - 73% completion - 311 yards - 4 TDs 1 INT - 8 yards rushing - 1 rushing TD - 1 fumble Before the pitchforks come out regarding my grade let me make one thing clear: Josh had some really bad plays that could/should have lost us the game... we still won, but it does not erase those head scratching, game crippling plays. You take those away? He has another A+ game. All I ask is you don't let the flashy fantasy scores blind your assessment of his play this week. With that said, here is what I loved: - Flawless first half of football. He was in command at all times and showed franchise qualities that he is indeed the dude. - Trusting his WR's and spreading the ball all around the field - a mix of fastballs and loft change ups - his touch is unreal right now (Diggs laser in the endzone vs Ramsey was amazing) - He is our offense. 5 TD's total most importantly... - when things were bad, and we knew it was Josh Allen time, deep down I knew he would somehow pull it off. It reminded me of watching Brett Favre back in the day, or even Rodgers now. The 3rd down and long to Beez was just amazing. Then to follow it up with a game winner was must see TV! As Josh progresses and starts becoming weekly MVP talk, we need to be more critical and hopefully clean up the head scratching moments. Yes, maybe the INT should not have counted, but it did and lead to a complete snowball effect of a Rams comeback. Yes, when he avoids the blitz he sometimes makes nice throws down the field however yelling at a ref after a play and taking sacks in moments where we absolutely cannot allow it just cannot happen if we want to win playoff games. Need proof? Watch our last playoff game. Overall, Josh is playing at an incredible level and as a Bills fan I could not be happier. I invested tons of $$ in his rookie cards 3 years ago and right now those prices have absolutely sky rocketed. People are starting to believe, and I am sure networks are calling the league right now trying to get more Josh Allen on TV. B+ vs A-, who cares. We should all be celebrating as Bills fans. We have waited a LOOOONG TIME for this. GO BILLS! The only bad play that really hurt was that interception that was BS call by the refs, Kroft came down to the ground the ball and DB got his hands in there as he was falling down. The tie at that point always goes to the offensive player, refs were just trying to keep Rams in the game, glad the refs stepped up and made the proper call on PI call as db made contact 5 years pass the line. Let's give Allen some credit for making some clutch throws including 3 and mile and he hits Diggs in double coverage to give them a shot. Give Allen credit for making throws you did not see the previous seasons 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 B+ seems about right. great game overall, but that *int* had him rattled for quite some time. and honestly, if not for that DPI on the last drive, we lose that game. Gabe Davis is a baller! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 We can close all these threads. The Franchise is here. This was like Kelly vs the Dolphins in 89. Only bigger. This is a bigger deal. It can't be overstated enough how big this is. Enjoy it folks. 2 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobChalmers Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 8 minutes ago, JMF2006 said: Stats say int Like an error in baseball who cares? Not like they are overturning now. Get over it. Actually they could - a few years ago they added a sack to the Bills stat sheet on a following Wednesday. Regardless, it was NOT an interception - if you want to grade a player, grade him on his play - not on what the folks looking for a push on the -3 line requested and got. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DQW87 Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 (edited) The nice part of todays game was not only the win, but I think Josh will really learn a lot from it. His mistakes were costly, but didn't ultimately cost us the game. I think when he watches film of that play where his knee was down, he's gonna see that he just needs to launch it out of bounds as it was only 1st down. 2nd and 10 is way better than 2nd and 22. This is the kind of game against an excelllent opponent that you learn tons from. Edited September 27, 2020 by DQW87 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVilanch Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 Dude literally won us that game, A. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelius Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 A. Big fat solid A. Worst part about that "interception" is the blemish it puts on Josh's MVP season. The only reason it isn't an A+ is because we saw what he did last week, there's still another level. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy1 Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 (edited) I think you’re off a bit this week. I’d give him A- or A. The good far out weighed the bad. There was no int. I didn’t like the bad scrambles backwards for sacks. Needs to learn to throw away. Edited September 27, 2020 by Andy1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 (edited) Anything less than an A is ridiculous. Did he make a couple mistakes? Yup. You can make mistakes and still get an A. The dude passed for over 300 yards, accounted for 5 TDs, had a fourth quarter comeback win after a defensive collapse, and had pressure in his face all day . That's an A all day every week. You don't need to be perfect to get an A. Edited September 27, 2020 by Scott7975 2 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 A- for me. The fumble frustrated me but he was being chased by the best player in football. I am not counting the INT against Josh. Because as Rob Ryan said on UK TV... that is not an interception because... well... the rules. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 (edited) My question is the grading scale Does Josh need to play a perfect game to get an A? - Over 300 yards - FOUR TD's - The interception was bull#### - Oh and in the 4th quarter he took the team on his back and WON THE GAME This was a A performance Edited September 27, 2020 by John from Riverside 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroutDog Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 OP: sniffing glue is bad for you and it’s clearly altering your ability to grade fairly. 😃 A...very clearly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingBoots8 Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 A-. You can’t hate on 5 TDS. The INT was garbage. I’d knock him for the fumble and the Personal (even though I loved seeing him get heated and have a fire lit). There is no chance he’s anything lower than that. He is the reason we had a shot at winning, and is the reason it happened. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 A-. Had me screaming at the TV a few times to get rid of the ball instead of taking the costly sack. BUT, yet another come-from-behind win led by the Firebaugh Kid. Are you kidding me?!?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasaluki Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 OP these threads were great for a long time but maybe its time to stop grading Allen. I think the kid has graduated. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllin Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 I feel sorry for Josh's grading the rest of the season, a game winner and 5 td's isnt enough for an A 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 39 minutes ago, rayray808 said: 24/33 - 73% completion - 311 yards - 4 TDs 0 INT - 8 yards rushing - 1 rushing TD - 1 fumble Fixed it for you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
par73 Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 Bottom line is, they won the game. Concerned about the turnovers (one highly questionable), sacks and penalties (although I thought he almost got decapitated on one of them). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeastMaster Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 Hard to give him an A, but I feel almost obligated after willing that game winning drive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KGun12TD Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 He Won the Fing game...how is that NOT an A+? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemma Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 I’m just glad he didn’t hurt anyone. He’s so rough with people. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 A if he doesn't win at the end, but it becomes an A+ for leading the game winning drive. That is the drive that cemented him as an MVP candidate. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFBillsfan Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 34 minutes ago, Buffalo Boy said: It WASNT an interception!!!! They can say it was, and you can believe it, but it wasn’t. Do you have eyes???? Do you believe them???? Or do you just believe what the broadcast tells you EVEN when you can see it is wrong? When both players come down with the Ball it Is the offenses Ball! NFL rule, not mine😘 What was even worse was after reviewed they CONFIRMED the call on the field was correct. Kroft goes up CATCHES the ball and still has the ball when he hits the ground. At what point did they see the Rams having control of the ball. It was an atrocious call and one every fan expects the NFL to get right. It isn’t even debatable. If Josh puts up these type of numbers versus the Raiders next week and they win, he’s certainly the 1st quarter MVP in the league. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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