Special K Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 (edited) Skip to 10:55 These guys were complete jerks towards Josh Allen, and this isn't the first time they've done this to him. I will never watch this show again when these two clowns are on it.....complete garbage from these guys!! I think Bills Mafia need to get on these guys twitter accounts and let them know what we think of their opinions of Josh Allen! Edited September 15, 2020 by Special K 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 They didn’t like him when he came out of college and they won’t admit defeat until he wins a super bowl. 10 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBills1998 Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 Well there Miami fans so that’s 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted September 15, 2020 Author Share Posted September 15, 2020 Just now, BuffaloBills1998 said: Well there Miami fans so that’s 1 Lebaturd is, but the other two are not. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purple haze Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 Allen is sloppy with the rock. People remember things like that. They remember dumb laterals in playoff games. That said, he’s still pretty good and getting better. If he plays well and lessens turnovers the Bills will go far. But he has to stop giving the ball away. They should’ve had 40 something points yesterday. Foxworth is right. Better teams will take advantage of those mistakes. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobills404 Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 Cause he's already way better than how good 90% of the media thought he would ever be. Only acknowledging his flaws is their way of coping with their trash takes. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardyBoy Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 9 minutes ago, Special K said: Lebaturd is, but the other two are not. Meh, he's not really a fan of any team anymore. Too much time in sports journalism will do that to you (I live in south florida and have listened to him a crap ton since 2012...well until tomorrow when we're driving/moving to Raleigh). I don't get their hate for Allen either honestly...they truly are all about nuance in just about everything except for Josh Allen...I think they're trolling a bit, but also setting up a bit when Allen gets good they can make fun of themselves...I don't think he did it on purpose, but Le Batard predicted the Lions would win the nfc north the year the went 0-16 and they've been making fun of him for that on the radio show randomly since I started listening. It's a parody of talk sports radio...if you look at it like that, you'll be in on the joke and it's pretty hilarious honestly, just takes a bit of getting used to it being a parody...basically they're parodying shows like Schopp and the Bulldog, where they have no idea on what they're watching strategy wise, but comment like they know everything without question, and likely didn't even watch the random golf round they are commenting on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 Who? 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 They were right. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 Who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 (edited) Really? First, who cares? Second, it's after the first game. Opinions on both sides aren't yet reasonable, there's too little of a sample this year. Edited September 15, 2020 by Thurman#1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted September 15, 2020 Author Share Posted September 15, 2020 15 minutes ago, HardyBoy said: Meh, he's not really a fan of any team anymore. Too much time in sports journalism will do that to you (I live in south florida and have listened to him a crap ton since 2012...well until tomorrow when we're driving/moving to Raleigh). I don't get their hate for Allen either honestly...they truly are all about nuance in just about everything except for Josh Allen...I think they're trolling a bit, but also setting up a bit when Allen gets good they can make fun of themselves...I don't think he did it on purpose, but Le Batard predicted the Lions would win the nfc north the year the went 0-16 and they've been making fun of him for that on the radio show randomly since I started listening. It's a parody of talk sports radio...if you look at it like that, you'll be in on the joke and it's pretty hilarious honestly, just takes a bit of getting used to it being a parody...basically they're parodying shows like Schopp and the Bulldog, where they have no idea on what they're watching strategy wise, but comment like they know everything without question, and likely didn't even watch the random golf round they are commenting on. I understand they are in the “hot take” business, and I’m not saying Josh played a perfect game, but this is at least the fourth or fifth time they’ve done it, and it just seems more of a personal rather than professional attack, and I was just wondering what people think their problem is with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 29 minutes ago, HardyBoy said: Meh, he's not really a fan of any team anymore. Too much time in sports journalism will do that to you (I live in south florida and have listened to him a crap ton since 2012...well until tomorrow when we're driving/moving to Raleigh). I don't get their hate for Allen either honestly...they truly are all about nuance in just about everything except for Josh Allen...I think they're trolling a bit, but also setting up a bit when Allen gets good they can make fun of themselves...I don't think he did it on purpose, but Le Batard predicted the Lions would win the nfc north the year the went 0-16 and they've been making fun of him for that on the radio show randomly since I started listening. It's a parody of talk sports radio...if you look at it like that, you'll be in on the joke and it's pretty hilarious honestly, just takes a bit of getting used to it being a parody...basically they're parodying shows like Schopp and the Bulldog, where they have no idea on what they're watching strategy wise, but comment like they know everything without question, and likely didn't even watch the random golf round they are commenting on. Good luck in your move! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 (edited) Josh is his own worse enemy. Stop making stupid mistakes, make the easy throws and hold on to the darn ball! The criticism is justified, unfortunately they only focus on the shortcomings and not the progress he's made. The bad throw everyone is enjoying was really bad. He was throwing into the wind and put too much on it while on the run. No excuse for missing that. Lamar had a similar play where he overthrew his TE in the end zone but his wasn't as egregious and the receiver made a spectacular leaping one handed grab. I can guarantee you if Josh threw that pass the narrative would have been "what a horrible throw, his TE saved him on that one"! Just like his completions to Brown (off the shoelaces) for a TD and to Beasley (big gain he had to catch falling) but would've been a TD with a better throw. Lamar is 0-2 in first rd playoff games. Deshaun is 0-1 in first rd playoff games and blew a 24 point lead in the other. Yet they praise those players without a negative word to be said. Draw your own conclusions why. Are they better players than Josh at this point? I'd say yes, but can we acknowledge they have shortcomings as well or is that against today's rules? Edited September 15, 2020 by billsbackto81 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 I'm not even clicking to give them views. Never listened to them . There's plenty good alternatives Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalo2218 Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 At this point, I expect more analysts to downplay the good things Allen did, I don’t really have a problem with that. And I don’t have an issue with them pointing out the bad. But what I got sick of both Sunday and Monday was hearing about Cam Newton and his insanely average day playing a rebuilding Dolphins team where he looked PATHETICALLY slow on his runs. I get that he’s Bellichek’s boy and all, but geez, some would have thought he threw for 500 yards and 6 TDs with all the praise he got 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 1 hour ago, Special K said: Skip to 10:55 These guys were complete jerks towards Josh Allen, and this isn't the first time they've done this to him. I will never watch this show again when these two clowns are on it.....complete garbage from these guys!! I think Bills Mafia need to get on these guys twitter accounts and let them know what we think of their opinions of Josh Allen! Its not just them....there was a group of "experts" that were so sure that Josh Allen was going to bust that they went all in on that before and when he was drafted....... Now.....they cant back track off it because they were so stupid. WHy cant people just understand that Josh Allen will never by Tom Brady......but is still a very good football player 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardyBoy Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Special K said: I understand they are in the “hot take” business, and I’m not saying Josh played a perfect game, but this is at least the fourth or fifth time they’ve done it, and it just seems more of a personal rather than professional attack, and I was just wondering what people think their problem is with him. That's the thing, they're not in the hot take business, they parody and make fun of people who do hot takes. This is the one actual hot take I've basically ever seen them do seriously...it's weird, I can't explain it. 1 hour ago, NewEra said: Good luck in your move! Thank you! Looking forward to some mild fall and winter weather (grew up in Rochester and then lived in Boston before moving down to ft lauderdale the last eight years). 10.5 hour drive without breaks...gonna have an 80lb dog and two cats in my car, my wife is going to have the two kids and we're just gonna power through. Edited September 15, 2020 by HardyBoy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 2 hours ago, NewEra said: They didn’t like him when he came out of college and they won’t admit defeat until he wins a super bowl. Exactly this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
808 Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 34 minutes ago, billsbackto81 said: Lamar is 0-2 in first rd playoff games. Deshaun is 0-2 in first rd playoff games and blew a 24 point lead in the other. Yet they praise those players without a negative word to be said. Draw your own conclusions why. Are they better players than Josh at this point? I'd say yes, but can we acknowledge they have shortcomings as well or is that against today's rules? Deshaun watson is not 0-2 in the first round😂 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 (edited) 20 minutes ago, 808 said: Deshaun watson is not 0-2 in the first round😂 Okay, made a mistake. he's 0-1 in first rd and 0-1 in 2nd rd. I've corrected the error. It gets foggy this time of night at work. Did you agree with the rest or did you just want to spot check my post. I usually do but like I said, I'm at work. Appreciate the correction though👍 Edited September 15, 2020 by billsbackto81 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GETTOTHE50 Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 They are projecting their hate of the bills and buffalo on Allen. I bet if he was on some darling team like the cheats, Ravens, or Steelers, that they’d love him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo Montoya Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 (edited) You all know Josh will see this today. Someone will send it to him. After he watches it he will take two deep breaths and immediately put on film of the Dolphins / Patriots game on Sunday and spend twice as much time as he ordinarily would breaking down the Phin's defense so he is ready for next Sunday. It's the politically correct answer for Allen to come out and say that he doesn't listen to the relentless media bashing, that it doesn't matter what people say about him outside of One Bills Drive, but the guy's only human. You know it has to piss him off and it fuels him to prove everyone of them wrong. Keep talking your trash Le Batard and Bomani. Josh is going to make you make you eat those words one day. Edited September 15, 2020 by Inigo Montoya 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 41 minutes ago, GETTOTHE50 said: They are projecting their hate of the bills and buffalo on Allen. I bet if he was on some darling team like the cheats, Ravens, or Steelers, that they’d love him Interesting presumption. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 5 hours ago, Special K said: Skip to 10:55 These guys were complete jerks towards Josh Allen, and this isn't the first time they've done this to him. I will never watch this show again when these two clowns are on it.....complete garbage from these guys!! I think Bills Mafia need to get on these guys twitter accounts and let them know what we think of their opinions of Josh Allen! The pass play was spoken to in another thread, Brady and Mahomes did the same damn thing in their game. Do they suck? those guys are morons for their comments 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Quint Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 Riling up a fan base is where second and third rate media people they get their clicks from. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racketmaster Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 (edited) It will probably take a Super Bowl win and maybe a few pro bowls or an MVP season to realistically change the opinions on some of the “analysts” and media. There were a significant number of people who thought Allen was trash coming out. And out of those people, a portion of them have been willing to admit that he is better than they thought and has potential while the rest have dug in and just rely on the random bad play from Allen posted on Twitter to troll Bills fans and make themselves feel better about their draft take. it seems crazy to think that a player would have to achieve that much to get some level of respect from a significant portion of the pundits when often another qb can play 1-2 games and be automatically placed in the upper half of the league’s quarterbacks. But Allen was such a polarizing draft prospect analytics v physical traits that people got more invested in their takes than usual. Plus, I think some of the draft day twitter posts from when Allen was a teenager added some more fuel to the fire for some of the media who already thought he was trash. It seemed to elevate the hate and target on him even more. In the end, those that watch and follow Allen know he is already a good qb, excellent leader and has special traits that can allow him to become one of the league’s best at his position. I think he has a great personality and has gained a lot of respect amongst his peers as evidenced by him appearing on the NFL too 100 list. Better to be respected by your teammates and opponents than loved by the media (still seeing those Baker commercials makes me laugh although some of them are pretty funny). Edited September 15, 2020 by racketmaster 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickey Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 These guys aren't saying anything I haven't heard here often enough. No QB in the league is going to finish the season without some interceptions, some fumbles and some missed throws. He needs to play a perfect game every week and if he doesn't the line in the media is going to be "yeah he won but......(low completion percentage, fumbles, missed throws, interceptions, etc)" Sunday is a perfect example. The story isn't that he won, it isn't that he completed 71% of his throws, it isn't that he pulled off some Houdini like escapes, it isn't that he audibled out of a bad play and in to a TD, it isn't that he ran for a TD, it isn't that he ran for a chunk of yards, it isn't that he made some truly amazing throws and it isn't that he threw 2 TD's. The story is 2 fumbles and a missed a throw. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TH3 Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 By chance I was clicking through the channels and saw it.....it just seemed more mean spirited low bar trash than sports talk....kinda weird...thought more of them 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aceman_16 Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 For fear of sounding ignorant....who are these guys? Why should we care? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern Bills Fan Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 I can tell you why. But you won’t like the answer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Bill Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 What the F is a Bomani Jones... and what relevance is it? Lived my life without ever knowing of this guy...hope to never hear of it again. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 LeBetard is a die hard Miami fan, and that show is entirely “shtick”, so I get it coming from him.. Bomani is another story... I’m not sure we all need to get into what may be going on there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 (edited) I caught this show a couple times in flipping through channels and the sad part is.... that’s the Bomani being nice about Allen. He’s usually way worse. he and foxworth are both complete idiots about Allen. About a month ago fozworth was on “Get up” and the topic of which East qb would you rather have for the long haul came up. Tim Hasselbeck(former NFL qb) picked Allen. Foxworth was completely disgusted and wasn’t shy in saying so. But it’s funny to me how many former qb’s love Allen and everyone else loses their minds over it. -Both Simms -Quinn -Hasselbeck -Esiason ... just funny to me how many former qb’s have gone to bat for him over the last 2 years and people lose their minds over it. Edited September 15, 2020 by Stank_Nasty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 They are professional trollers not analysts. They’ll make fun of Josh until he doesn’t do those couple dumb things, then they’ll move on to the next guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 5 hours ago, billsbackto81 said: Okay, made a mistake. he's 0-1 in first rd and 0-1 in 2nd rd. I've corrected the error. It gets foggy this time of night at work. Did you agree with the rest or did you just want to spot check my post. I usually do but like I said, I'm at work. Appreciate the correction though👍 He cant be 0-1 since he beat us. Gotta at least be 1-1. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelsayrundefense Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 How did Foxworth get an MBA from Harvard? Guy is a moron. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IslandBillsFan Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 Got no problem with most of their comments. I actually agree that some of Josh's mistakes on Sunday could've resulted in a loss against a better team. They do seem to be overlooking the progress of Josh and the overall result from Sunday. On a side note, who still wears a bluetooth earpiece? Going further, knowing you are gonna be a national television and not taking a phone call why keep it in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thurst44 Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 6 hours ago, billsbackto81 said: Josh is his own worse enemy. Stop making stupid mistakes, make the easy throws and hold on to the darn ball! The criticism is justified, unfortunately they only focus on the shortcomings and not the progress he's made. The bad throw everyone is enjoying was really bad. He was throwing into the wind and put too much on it while on the run. No excuse for missing that. Lamar had a similar play where he overthrew his TE in the end zone but his wasn't as egregious and the receiver made a spectacular leaping one handed grab. I can guarantee you if Josh threw that pass the narrative would have been "what a horrible throw, his TE saved him on that one"! Just like his completions to Brown (off the shoelaces) for a TD and to Beasley (big gain he had to catch falling) but would've been a TD with a better throw. I agree that some criticism is justified, but not the level of criticism he's getting from much of the league. Some (not you) are acting like he almost cost the team the game or like he wasn't mostly responsible for this win is absurd. He was inside the 20 on both drives on which he fumbled, and led them craftily down the field for touchdowns the other three drives of the first half. Yes, they should have been 31 or 35 to nothing at half, but they were still 21-3 and the 21 were due to Josh Allen. Is there room for improvement -- yes, and that should be scary for the rest of the league. Could he still implode -- of course. Has he improved from game-to-game and year-to-year -- imo, clearly. Those who focus on Allen's mistakes as if they define him, and are the lone definition of Josh Allen, look silly and petty to me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HereComesTheReignAgain Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 (edited) 33-46, 71% comp, 312 yds, 2 passing TD, 0 INT, 57 rushing yds, 1 rushing TD, 2 fumbles. EVERY other QB in the league would be getting very positive reviews for that stat line. Edited September 15, 2020 by chknwing334 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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