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Diggs dip in production last year kinda went with that core muscle injury he got. 🤷🏽‍♂️.

Think they came before beane

They have to keep learning the same lesson in different ways. Its stupid. They beat themselves with stupidity. 3 weeks of a good balanced offense. Then they just abandon it the first sign of adversity. josh under center keeps him on time and the rbs are better from that formation. Better let josh hand it off from shotgun 🤦🏽‍♂️. Its soo maddening

Beane was hired after that 2017 draft. That was all doug whaleys scouts and info🫣

Feel like the main point is you cant have a top tier qb and not win a championship for much longer before you have to move on. If you cant figure it out. The team shouldnt be forced to be his training wheels to learn it. Some guys figure it out faster than others. but you just cant waste a top tier qb in his prime. Anything less than a championship is failure. Fair or not. Thats the measuring stick when you finally have a qb.

I thought it was kawika mitchell on the early days of twitter.

Did you happen to listen to the pods with monos/whaley talking about that draft? also the sammy watkins draft episode is good too. Should give it a listen its pretty insightful.

what are you hinestly expecting of a 34yo dude coming off acl surgery in December? Id expect it to look closer to the tre white time line than him being back to normal to start the season. But thats just me.

Id urge you to go listen to the tyler dunne podcasts that have had whaley and monos. they are pretty upfront they your assumption that they were retained and knew they would be gone after doesnt really add up with them. also terry absolutely gushed over mahomes every chance he could get. But the rex hire got him in a weird spot and i think he wanted to let them do their jobs. but go give it a listen. I think it would change your mind on how that played out.

Mahomes is a better qb imo. Its not equal talent. physical traits josh is bigger. mahomes has just as strong of an arm. josh still doesnt throw guys open as much as he likes to see them open then rips it. He gets the job done so its not that big of a deal. but PM doesnt make the same mistakes and doesnt gamble as much. Hes got rings. And has broken soo many records already. this doesnt mean josh is garbage. He is really good too its not that big of a deal. But mahomes is clearly better imo . And as a bills fan im fine with that. Idk why some take it soo personal. Both are really really good. Chill

Whaley and monos have talked about mahomes and that draft at length on ty dunnes podcast a few times. terry loved mahomes. And as much as he may love josh. Everytime he sees mahomes im sure he thinks what if… i know people here hate whaley but he and monos have been open about things and self deprecating on that pod. Good listens for sure. They dont try to pass the blame of what happened in their tenure with the bills.

Dawson knox isnt a top 10 TE and shouldnt have been paid like one. Also knowing the OL being weak and asking him stay in to block more often just shows the disconnect of FO and coaches. Wouldnt need to pay top money for a blocking TE🫣

some of that is on josh going hero mode. It looks like it pains him to throw the underneath and check down routes sometimes. He wants the homerun. I get it. But he gets some of that blame. Its what makes him him. But also what gets him wrecked

Me and the wife came in from hawaii too! wish i read the board more. Woulda tried to link up. 🤙🏽

I give him a triple A+

Deshaun watson is not 0-2 in the first round😂

I thought josh had one of his best games today but comparing him to a qb from 20years ago even if he is a hof guy isnt ideal. If you put brett in the league today. Im not sure he gets it done. Probably looks like jameis stats wise. different eras

I think he will look the same. Highly erratic play. Some real wtf moments and then a good moments and some mediocre plays. He will be a roller coaster.

Remember when tebow “wanted” it and worked on those things? Now he is the league mvp and Has 10 superbowl rings....?

Didnt see his 20+ fumbles in there ?. What about when he threw it directly to a defender and he dropped it. Should give him credit for that too! yes he had a bunch of drops.but that didnt make him wildly inconsistent and his game awareness horrible. I want him to be the best in the nfl but im also realistic to say he has massive warts.

Its almost like you didnt watch the games. A TEAM can win despite a qb shitting his pants a few times a game then coming thru once. how often did we see josh below 100yards passing entering the 4th or late in the third and a handfull of wtf throws and or fumbles.

i feel you. Maybe turd bag wasnt a great name. But its not that im down on him. As the great buddy nix said. Show me the baby. Dont tell me about the labor. ?. Ive gone thru the madness of latching on to the wrong qb. It is what it is. Im just waiting and being analytical about it rather than jumping in feet first. ?? Send me the kool aid recipe you got and maybe ill be part of jonestown north.

I didnt say “you” said it. But look thru this thread or any topic related to josh on this board and its only puppies and rainbows. It only gets better. You mean the 8-8 power house cowboys? fitz beat the pats that won a superbowl?. my issue is josh gets gold stars everyweek from his fan boys for climbing out of a self dug hole like he did something amazing. Bills fan are just soo accustomed to poor qb play that mediocre seems great. he had some moments. But to not acknowledge he had more wtfs than ups is not what ima do.

My feelings dont get hurt when josh plays bad like some. Ive come to reality with it. Im not going to build him up and look past his warts by saying look how strong his arm is tho! He tries the hardest! Until he actually shows he is better. This is him. And projecting that he only gets better is not realistic if youre not also saying he could get worse or stay the same. ??‍♂️But sure ill stop coming here if you stop too ?

Ill be back to cash these checks after he plays a few games and the sky is falling for some. I want him to be good. But i think the holes in his game arent fixable. But you can conceal them if everything else goes right. But i dont think he has the game for a qb in the year 2020. He woulda been good in 1975. But in todays nfl. I dont think so.