njbuff Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 Dawkins ranks in the upper half of LT's in the NFL for sure and it is going to cost 15 mill a year to keep him................ Question is????? Is it a wise decision to keep him at this rate? I say it's a big yes, but I think a lot of you might feel differently. What do you think? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 The market is just going to keep increasing as with anything else. I'm fine with 5 years $70,000,000-$75,000,000 in total with $45,000,000-$50,000,000 of that being guaranteed. I just hope they get the deal done sooner rather than later as the price tag will continue to go up. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 Yes. LTs get paid a lot of money, it’s just reality. 7 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, H2o said: The market is just going to keep increasing as with anything else. I'm fine with 5 years $70,000,000-$75,000,000 in total with $45,000,000-$50,000,000 of that being guaranteed. I just hope they get the deal done sooner rather than later as the price tag will continue to go up. Good point, the sooner the better, money wise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 Yes, do it now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 Yes. I was sceptical before the year. I was unconvinced at the quarter pole. I thought he had his best, most consistent period as a Bill from the bye onwards. I'd pay the man. Again the CBA issue makes an extension this year tricky, but because (unlike Tre White) you don't have a means of keeping him next year without the contract extension (save for the tag) so I think you have to bite the bullet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 Yes. He's very good, he's 25 and he stays healthy. These are the exact type of players you sign long term. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigK14094 Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 He i s one of McBean's guys. He gets resigned imho. The money....well, its a budget game.....but, the better guys need to be reup'd. You know the names. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 Not personally. But I don’t have a $200,000,000 budget. Beane, he should strongly consider it. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedbuffaloblue Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 Yes, definitely. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBeaneBandit Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 I'd prefer to keep it around 12-13 per year, but that's not the world we live in. I would try and get him and Tre done asap, so we can keep this train rolling before the salaries get even more wack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 Obviously Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/dion-dawkins-21805/market-value/ Yup. Spotrac has him at approx $14.3M AAV. 5 years, $71.7M estimated contract. If the current CBA rules allow it, then get it done. If not, agree in principle and do it as soon as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 Absolutely. Hard to find those guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted February 25, 2020 Author Share Posted February 25, 2020 Also, he is the Bills best red zone target right now. ? 1 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 Eh. I’ve maintained no, but I also haven’t broken down any of his film this year. I think we’re going to resign him because he’s been playing his cards right/seems like a great guy. Just seems to me he gets beat on plays we have to have Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 Yep. Above average LT's cost a lot of money... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 (edited) Dawkins is everything you want out of a player in the locker room and off the field. I think if Beane can find him a constant solid left guard to play beside, Dawkins will be a solid to good LT for years to come. It’s not coincidence that Dawkins disappointing season came when the entire line was in shambles. Yes, pay him and move on. Edited February 25, 2020 by atlbillsfan1975 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msw2112 Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 Draft, develop, retain. The proper way to build a successful organization. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 Yes. He’s an ascending player. Last year was his best season and I think he’ll only get better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 Of course you sign him for that. Without thinking twice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Joshin' Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 He is a quality player who will get the market rate. That seems to be in the $15 million +/- range. Invest in QB, LT, Edge, CB with your cap. Those are the hard players retain without spending. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 We should get a slight discount if we do it during the offseason, to remove some risk from him and to get him money earlier. But basically yeah, absolutely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 I honestly don't think he's a top LT. Not even top 10 rn He takes good amount of penalties and gets beat more than you want. I think he's good , not great 4 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 ‘LT has the QBs Back’ goes the saying. Our QB just happens to have a very strong back, but I want to keep it that way. DD loves him some Josh. He won’t let him get hurt -even if it means a ‘LOOK OUT!’ block.. Give the Schnowman his schmoney to keep stirring the Mac & cheese. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 3 hours ago, White Linen said: Yes. He's very good, he's 25 and he stays healthy. These are the exact type of players you sign long term. He's 25 and stays healthy: True He's very good: Up for debate. He's steady and serviceable if anything. Nothing he does on tape stands out and blows you away. Worth retaining? Yes Elite LT money? No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 Until we have something better, absolutely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 3 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Yes. LTs get paid a lot of money, it’s just reality. Inagree. In fact in a year or two we will look back and say we got a deal with Dawkins 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 3 hours ago, GunnerBill said: Yes. I was sceptical before the year. I was unconvinced at the quarter pole. I thought he had his best, most consistent period as a Bill from the bye onwards. I'd pay the man. Again the CBA issue makes an extension this year tricky, but because (unlike Tre White) you don't have a means of keeping him next year without the contract extension (save for the tag) so I think you have to bite the bullet. a decent rookie season, a substandard sophomore year and a very nice third year. he is under contract for this coming year and while it may ultimately cost more to do a deal next year, i would prefer to see him one more year before committing a boatload of money in his direction. with the possibility of signing him long term before the year is out if he is playing nicely. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 I expect to overpay - but i have a hard time making a non pro-bowl player the highest paid at his position. At the same time - free agency is a wasteland at left tackle. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 49 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: I honestly don't think he's a top LT. Not even top 10 rn He takes good amount of penalties and gets beat more than you want. I think he's good , not great Is that a yes or no? Curious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeF Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 Without a question.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 10 minutes ago, Dopey said: Is that a yes or no? Curious. It's a let's see how much he can improve this season. If he takes a nice step , yes 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 1 hour ago, MJS said: Until we have something better, absolutely. I think this is what it comes down to. Is Dawkins worth $15M/year? In my opinion, not right now. I think he's slightly above average and certainly not in the top 10 in league LTs. He's been improving, but still whiffs and gets beat badly; at the least, he wasn't the worst problem on the line. So until someone better comes along, Dawkins will get paid and be a bit overpaid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 3 minutes ago, Happy Gilmore said: I think this is what it comes down to. Is Dawkins worth $15M/year? In my opinion, not right now. I think he's slightly above average and certainly not in the top 10 in league LTs. He's been improving, but still whiffs and gets beat badly; at the least, he wasn't the worst problem on the line. So until someone better comes along, Dawkins will get paid and be a bit overpaid. And he can still improve. Nothing to indicate he has capped out on potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 of your money?yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st&ten Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 He is above average & could still improve some. It seems like he likes playing in Buffalo & seems to be a process guy. If we don't pay him, who are we going to replace him with----hard to get LT's in free agency & if you draft a new guy, what is his learning curve---will he get Josh killed ? Besides, remember we could always move him to RT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 16 minutes ago, Happy Gilmore said: I think this is what it comes down to. Is Dawkins worth $15M/year? In my opinion, not right now. I think he's slightly above average and certainly not in the top 10 in league LTs. He's been improving, but still whiffs and gets beat badly; at the least, he wasn't the worst problem on the line. So until someone better comes along, Dawkins will get paid and be a bit overpaid. I think he’s near the top 10. I can’t think of 10 guys I’d rather have than Dawkins. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section122 Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 You already shnow!!! 1 hour ago, Buffalo716 said: It's a let's see how much he can improve this season. If he takes a nice step , yes The only issue perhaps with doing that, is it could drive his price even higher. If he steps up and becomes a top 10 LT that hits the FA market he will get paid. Look at the deal Trent Brown got or Nate Solder before him. That is funny money for 2 guys I never thought were that good. The Bills might benefit from the lack of buzz around them but some league GM will back up the truck if he improves and hits FA. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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