QCity Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 Hopefully for a coaching position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 24 minutes ago, FluffHead said: @AdamSchefter: Former Panthers’ TE Greg Olsen will visit the Bills and Redskins this week, per source. Buffalo’s GM Brandon Beane used to be with Carolinas, as did Washington’s HC Ron Rivera. He can rap with Beasley? https://deadspin.com/remember-when-greg-olsen-and-his-miami-teammates-made-a-1756868655 I guess I would have thought that Lee Smith would have the >32 year old TE market cornered for the Bills - Olsen will be 35 Greg Olsen in his day was a far better player...next season would be his 14th though. 2 concussions last year, foot injuries in 2016 & 2017 What do we know about his blocking? Found an SI article that had this to say about whether the Seahawks should look at him: "Olsen has also never been highly regarded as a run blocker, which always screams bad fit with the Seahawks. While their evaluations are far from fool proof, Pro Football Focus ranked him 115th out of 117 qualified tight ends in 2016 and he’s consistently earned poor run blocking grades. " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 (edited) Mark me down as surprised. Not that he would visit us and Washington, that’s obvious if he intends to play, but that he is seriously thinking about playing still. I really felt he would retire and I honestly thought the Kobe tragedy was going to pretty much make it official given his statements he made about Kobe and how it all hit home for him. Here is a link that shows some of what he said: https://www.wcnc.com/article/sports/charlotte-athletes-community-reacts-to-kobe-bryants-death/275-8cedc8d9-f887-42ed-95a6-f02a0bb79411 He just struck me as someone who was already close to wanting to start that next chapter and that this was something that just furthered that. If he wants to play, I am all for signing him. He’s still got value as a player and he would be an excellent mentor to our young guys. And we should be a LOT more interesting to him than Washington if he wants a chance to compete before his days are up, plus we have the best training facilities in the league. Edited February 4, 2020 by Hapless Bills Fan replace google link with actual link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 (edited) 56 minutes ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: I doubt Beane will spend big bucks on the TE position. This seems like the type of move that I anticipated. Good mentor for Knox and Sweeney. I can see how he could be invaluable to Knox, especially. He could get to know him, build a little bond, and eventually, when the time is right, pull him aside and tell him to “catch the damn ball and never, ever whiff on a block!” Edited February 4, 2020 by Augie 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 Love it. Get it done. Hopefully he can put in a full season for us ???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elijah Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 The hopes on Sweeney are too high here. He was a 7th rounder that flashed a little bit, he’s not someone to count on becoming a legitimate option. Also those wanting to sign Hooper are auctioning off a lot of money. Give me Olsen/Henry/Ebron on a short term deal and draft another TE somewhere between 3rd-5th round. Olsen/Henry/Ebron give you the short term, cheap option to bridge the position while Knox and the future rookie continue to develop. And Kroft has to be gone. Simply didn’t produce enough on such a team friendly contract to be willing to keep him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maybe Someday Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 I think he'd be a great rotational fit for us. He put up decent stats with bad QBs last year. Would also be a great mentor to 2 young guys with some potential. Plus he can wear that winter beanie he always does without sweating so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 You’re not getting 16 games from Olsen, but that’s not necessarily a bad thing given knoxs ability and possible growth. He’s going to be a second option possibly here. He’d be the guy in Washington though. I’m not against signing him if they’re going to use him in the pass game. They didn’t use Kroft or make him a part of the offense, no point signing a similar player (obviously a long track record of success) if they’re not going to use him. I do find it a little funny we have this many posters excited to sign Olsen and so many against AJ Green. Same kind of situation as both are injury prone, on their last contracts that wouldn’t be long ones or ridiculous money. If I’m drafting a rookie receiver I don’t think there’s many in the league I would pick to show them how it’s done over green. Same for Knox, you want someone to show him how a tight end practices and makes plays in the pass game not many I would pick over Olsen to show him the ropes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 (edited) This would be a big waste of money if we bring him in for anything more than $3M/year. edit: HOLY CRAP I just looked up Lee Smith's contract. Beane gave him 3yr/$9M with $4.4M in guarantees?!?! Thank the gods we can cut him this year with only $1M in dead money. Cut Smith, give the money to Olsen. But dont expect much from Olsen either. Edited February 4, 2020 by DrDawkinstein 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bring it Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 Only if it’s to develop Knox! I think he has a huge upside and by year 3 or 4 he should be a beast!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Junction Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 4 minutes ago, Rc2catch said: You’re not getting 16 games from Olsen, but that’s not necessarily a bad thing given knoxs ability and possible growth. He’s going to be a second option possibly here. He’d be the guy in Washington though. I’m not against signing him if they’re going to use him in the pass game. They didn’t use Kroft or make him a part of the offense, no point signing a similar player (obviously a long track record of success) if they’re not going to use him. I do find it a little funny we have this many posters excited to sign Olsen and so many against AJ Green. Same kind of situation as both are injury prone, on their last contracts that wouldn’t be long ones or ridiculous money. If I’m drafting a rookie receiver I don’t think there’s many in the league I would pick to show them how it’s done over green. Same for Knox, you want someone to show him how a tight end practices and makes plays in the pass game not many I would pick over Olsen to show him the ropes. There will likely be a large difference in their salaries. Possibly by $10MM/yr. That likely sways people’s opinions. That and we paid Kroft to rehab most of the season. Most would love McB to sign Green at a relative value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickrage Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 Well there’s the veteran leadership for the TE room. Seems like a no brained, all things considered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptide Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 If I was him on the backside of my career, I'd personally choose buffalo. A playoff team on the rise vs a redskins team that could be 2 years away from competing 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stony Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 Kind of a nothing burger. Let’s develop our own. Hes old and slow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 1 minute ago, Steptide said: If I was him on the backside of my career, I'd personally choose buffalo. A playoff team on the rise vs a redskins team that could be 2 years away from competing Also, with his past love affair with Cam, and the fact Josh gets most compared to Cam, it seems a good fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turftoe Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 Sometimes the best moves are the ones you never make. This is probably the case here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 18 minutes ago, Buffalo Junction said: There will likely be a large difference in their salaries. Possibly by $10MM/yr. That likely sways people’s opinions. That and we paid Kroft to rehab most of the season. Most would love McB to sign Green at a relative value. The money doesn’t totally matter as long as they can be clean of it after 1-2 years. And there’s a lot of “he’s always hurt” people. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 This is an easy one for me. The price and fit should make a lot of sense. If you could hand Olsen, Kroft’s money it’s a no brainer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longtimebillsfan Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 At 35 with a history of injuries...why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SloanBillsFan Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 1 hour ago, J-GunJoshAllen17 said: ... Then look for the #1 reciever in the draft. Speaking of which, was just looking at highlights of Jauan Jennings who somebody's mock showed the Bills taking in the 3rd round. This is my first year actually devoting time to this aspect of the off-season so I don't know how he'll shake out. But his brief highlight video showed some good moves and receptions. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 1 hour ago, ngbills said: What is this guys market value? Looks like it may be in the $5M per range. I'm for it only if is a mentor for Knox and we still are look at Hooper or Henry. Hooper, Knox, Olsen, Sweeney/Croom/Smith. How much money do you think they intend to spend on tight ends? People need to get over Hooper and Henry, Knox was a third round pick for Gods sake. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fiend Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 41 minutes ago, elijah said: Give me Olsen/Henry/Ebron on a short term deal and draft another TE somewhere between 3rd-5th round. Olsen/Henry/Ebron give you the short term, cheap option to bridge the position while Knox and the future rookie continue to develop. We could have had Ebron for free in the 2014 draft, but instead, we moved up to take Sammy. Sigh... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 1 hour ago, Phil The Thrill said: Hooper probably will be the highest paid TE by the time FA ends. I can’t see the Bills spending that kind of money on a tight end. Olsen fits the profile of the player they are looking for. Article in the Athletic the other day about the Bills TE's. Talked about bringing in Olson, but thought it only makes sense as long as it doesn't in any way slow down Knox's development. He acknowledged the drops but also talked about how few TE's in the league have the over all skill set Knox provides, also stated Knox is ranked 3rd in the league in yards after the catch for TE's. Also stated highly unlikely the Bills would go after any TE for more than a one year deal so that leaves out the Hooper's of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 Better than Lee Smith but not a TE1 anymore, might be a TE2 to let Knox and Sweeney learn from him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 The last thing this offense needs is more average players, which Olsen is at best as this point in his career. . Bring in playmakers or don't bother. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krf139 Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 No thanks. I’d rather get younger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 Dawson Knox is the future at the position. Bring in Olsen, restrict his snaps and have him mentor the kid and bring out his full potential. Motor is still training with Gore in the offseason, anyone upset about that? Kroft has brought nothing to the team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
folz Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 (edited) Olsen's 2019 highlights for perspective. Not real fast anymore (if he ever was), but can still get separation, find holes in the defensive coverage, and make contested catches. The only thing I noticed is that he goes down pretty quickly/easily at first contact, but as an older guy, can't blame him, he's protecting his body. But, I don't really hold it against him, as most of his catches were in the 10-20 yard range, so he's picking up first downs. I think he and Knox would be a nice one-two at TE and as others have said, the leadership and mentorship he would bring for Knox, Sweeney, Josh, and the offense in general could be big. Edited February 4, 2020 by folz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronxbomber21 Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 I don't care how old Olson is its better the Smith and Kroft so its a yes for me Buffalo is a playoff team so i see this happening Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGMcD2 Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 I don’t understand why everyone is freaking out. Individuals on this board need to understand how to judge interest in players individually. Greg Olsen would be a fine signing. He is not going to break the bank. He is not going to command a long term deal. He is not the only offensive addition we will make this off-season. I understand the collective desire to get younger. Yes, it’s good to have young, cheap and talented players littered across your roster. It’s also good to have veteran talent. There needs to be a mix. We are allowed to carry 90 players on our roster for the off-season... why not carry the best combination of 90 players we can find that fit our organization and schemes? Everyone wants to “Cut Smith” or “Cut Kroft” if we sign Olsen (some even if we don’t). My lord, we have about $80M to spend and I can assure you all $80M will not be spent... so why cut players to save money? We have plenty. Stack the damn depth chart with NFL players. If we sign Olsen our TE room for camp is: Olsen Knox Kroft Smith Sweeney Croom All 6 guys have played meaningful NFL snaps... that’s a good a thing to have those guys competing in camp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codyny13 Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 This board has a serious ***** for Hooper. NFL insiders don’t seem to have the same affinity for him, many seem to think he’s a product of the system. I don’t watch any Falcons games, and I’m wondering how many have here? Isn’t this the same guy who last week said he wants nothing to do with playing in Buffalo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 Hope we sign him. This would be a great pick up. I have a feeling Lee Smith would be done if this happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 1 minute ago, wppete said: Hope we sign him. This would be a great pick up. I have a feeling Lee Smith would be done if this happens. Id be ok with it. Just wonder what the contract looks like. My guess is somewhere between Delaine Walker at 8.5 and Vernon Davis at 5. Split the differnce and account for the cap that puts you at 7.1/yr. If you can get him for the Vernon contract great but when you start to talk about 7 or 8 id be out of it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 I would absolutely love this. He’s older, fine. This window is now. A legitimate pass catching TE is what this offense needs. This is one of the best ones in the league, even at his age. Would be a great move going into a hopefully fun offseason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 1 hour ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: I doubt Beane will spend big bucks on the TE position. This seems like the type of move that I anticipated. Good mentor for Knox and Sweeney. I thinks this is a courtesy visit. They Krofty for mentorship. .. They have Lee Smith for mentorship. aaand Washington is taking a look. Great player , but time to move on. Bills should go for it if a shot at Hooped comes free. Henry is might nice as well matter of fact? get Both. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 2 hours ago, J-GunJoshAllen17 said: We should really sign him and then one of Hooper or Henry. Sick match up problems for other teams to deal with, Henry Olsen and Knox. Then look for the #1 reciever in the draft. I would LOVE this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 2 hours ago, CincyBillsFan said: This is great news. I think this guy still has gas in the tank and he would be a fantastic mentor to Sweeney & Knox and security blanket for Allen. Here's to hoping! Any reason you are leaning towards saying he does? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 15 minutes ago, Codyny13 said: This board has a serious ***** for Hooper. NFL insiders don’t seem to have the same affinity for him, many seem to think he’s a product of the system. I don’t watch any Falcons games, and I’m wondering how many have here? Isn’t this the same guy who last week said he wants nothing to do with playing in Buffalo! I’ll take Henry then. Two legit no 1 TE’s in Henry and Knox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 51 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Also, with his past love affair with Cam, and the fact Josh gets most compared to Cam, it seems a good fit. just not feeling any of this. he 35 and a TE. dude has been hit by trains the Old timey ones with cow catchers 1 minute ago, RyanC883 said: I’ll take Henry then. Two legit no 1 TE’s in Henry and Knox. i am listening. Put some one like him in the room with Knox and Allen ? that's a good future state. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 I would cut Kroft whatever they do. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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