Big Blitz Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Bills 7 penalties for 64 yards Texans 4 penalties for 20. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandhill Mike Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 1 minute ago, schoolhouserock said: At the beginning of the 2nd half... I understand that the ultimate ruling was “in the spirit of the game”, but by the rules of the game, was that not a fumble-TD? That’s something that needs to be addressed by the NFL and officials - it was so awkward. The announcers kept harping that "common sense prevailed" but what's the point of a damn rule if you're going to enforce it when you want to? The dude fielded it and never took a knee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 8 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said: go f yurself Same to you buddy. Sorry if I’m emotional after a heart breaking loss. It’s not like I’m on here always talking trash or putting this team down. I ALWAYS support this team and find reasons to be optimistic. Right now I’m just pissed. I feel sick to my stomach over this loss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 14 minutes ago, Helpmenow said: Good season, a huge learning experience we sure have had a ton of learning experiences over the last 25 years! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Gun Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 1 minute ago, BillsFanSD said: Allen played badly, but he's not the one who let Houston walk up and down the field in the second half. It took the whole team to choke this one away. if yo think that then you dont know what you are watching 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrivefourfive Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 I question Allen’s mental capacity. Our boy may be “situationally ######ed”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
london_bills Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 We need to hope that mcd and Co can make the right decisions moving forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 1 minute ago, Do The Reich Thing said: Is Allen the guy? Jury is still out with plays like the uncalled for lateral with a minute left. He’ll stop doing those with more experience Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Mods taking down threads again... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VW82 Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 (edited) 13 minutes ago, RyanC883 said: our “franchise” qb jas one TD drive vs. a terrible pass D, among other things. Get Teddy B in FA. Nah he's going to get at least one more year. Coaches are going to have to stop protecting him and open things up more and see what happens because we seem to be brushing up against our ceiling playing this way. I get why they're so hesitant to trust his decision making. Edited January 5, 2020 by VW82 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elite Poster Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Josh fumbling at the end there hurt. The penalty was ridiculous on Ford. Tre got cooked by Dhop in the second half there. Our hero Matt Milano missed a ton of tackles. Siran Neal, yikes. Sean McFieldgoal, coaches scared, we get these results. Plain and simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Time for my daily visit to Fanspeak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 3 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: Future is bright but should have won this game. Defense can’t give up 19 points in a row and can’t give up a 3rd and 18. Duke could have made the one end zone catch, Knox throws a block in OT and we get a chip shot to win. Josh made a couple poor decisions. And if Hughes doesn’t get his typical unsportsmanlike we maybe get a TD instead of a FG. What this game showed me is Allen is the guy. Brought them back to tie and had them there to win in OT without the Ford illegal block that wasn’t. Exactly my thoughts. Came down to big game experience and I was hoping the young guys would float through but Texans are seasoned in post season and that was the difference for me. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatonka68 Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 (edited) Off season moves, Move Ford to Guard, get a OT, another tall WR and another RB.As bad as this loss is we are young and will be be back, Edited January 5, 2020 by Tatonka68 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyBillsFan Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Nitro said: Piling on Allen is short sighted. Offensive line was porous. Lack of using Singletary for long stretches. Defense was not up to the task today. This is a replay of NE and Baltimore games. It's worse then short sighted it's damn stupid. Allen overall played well showing signs of brilliance. How do three guys miss #41 on that sweep run by Allen in OT? How does an NFL WR drop a perfectly placed TD pass at the end of the 1st half that would have put us up 17 - 0? And how is Watt unblocked and/or single blocked multiple times in the 2nd half and in OT? If anything I'm even more bullish on Allen after this game. We need upgrading on offense. It's that simple. Edited January 5, 2020 by CincyBillsFan 3 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dakrider Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, Do The Reich Thing said: Is Allen the guy? Jury is still out with plays like the uncalled for lateral with a minute left. so they lost because of the lateral huh. geezez dude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mopreme Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Just now, Elite Poster said: Josh fumbling at the end there hurt. The penalty was ridiculous on Ford. Tre got cooked by Dhop in the second half there. Our hero Matt Milano missed a ton of tackles. Siran Neal, yikes. Sean McFieldgoal, coaches scared, we get these results. Plain and simple. Gutless Jauron and now Sean McFieldgoal. When will it end? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PastaJoe Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 After experiencing the Super Bowl losses, this is relatively easy to accept. But I did apologize to my son for making him a Bills fan. This is his first heartbreaking playoff loss. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 1 minute ago, Sandhill Mike said: The announcers kept harping that "common sense prevailed" but what's the point of a damn rule if you're going to enforce it when you want to? The dude fielded it and never took a knee. That Georgetown guard who passed the ball to the UNC player didn't mean it either. They should give Georgetown a do over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojo44 Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 7 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said: I am so frustrated at this loss. But starting in OT here are the plays that lost us the game: * On the Allen sweep, we had THREE guys out in front and NOT ONE OF THEM could get a hit on #41 who gave Allen a vicious helmet to helmet tackle. If just one of these guys had got that block Allen gains at least 10 yards and we're on our way to the winning FG. That was an inexcusable miss by the 3 guys lead blocking on that play. * On 3rd & 18 in OT an elite defense does not allow a check down pass to gain the first down. It's one thing if Watson made a great throw and the WR made a great catch past the sticks but come on. That play was an example of the game killing conservatism of coach McD. He has to get past that next year or coaching is the problem. On that play the D was playing to conservative and the result was a lost playoff game. * Later in the Texans drive with a 2nd & 9 and two guys hit Watson YOU MUST MAKE THE TACKLE. Why didn't Milano wrap him up? It would been 3rd & 17. The FACT is that for as well as the D played in the first two and a half quarters they played terrible in the 2nd half of the 3rd quarter, the 4th quarter and OT. Remember had the D stopped JUST ONE of the 2 pt conversions our last FG would have been the WINNING FG. This is pretty much it. Dammit! So close! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubs Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Basically, the officials gave the Texans a free play and they capitalized. !@#$ the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Do The Reich Thing Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 1 minute ago, oldmanfan said: He’ll stop doing those with more experience Maybe and I hope so. He turned into hero ball Josh when time got tough and was only throwing to guys if they were WIDE open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheshireCT Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 No one seems to be mentioning the big defensive adjustment from Houston in the second half. They spread the d-line out to attack wide and brought 5 and 6 man rushes. Allen wanted to run outside the pocket, but couldn't, and our o-line was getting owned by this technique. This adjustment totally took out our offense. For sure, it's something they weren't prepared for. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEN-CAL17 Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 1 minute ago, John in Jax said: Yep, and it wasn't a true "blind side", because the defender saw him coming, and even fought off the block and didn't go down. That rule needs to be amended and brought up in the coaches meeting. Players should be allowed to put hands on or shoulder a player without vicious intent. Which is what happened..... I don’t want to see basketball picks on the football field. That play wouldn’t be called in 98% of High School games, but here we are in the NFL!!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, the skycap said: Time for my daily visit to Fanspeak What is that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCbillsfan Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 23 minutes ago, Another Fan said: I’m actually more upset of the clear delay of game on 3rd and 18 then the actual loss Yep. I thought that was what the review was all about. Not the spotting of the ball. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Looks like Matt Milano is to blame on the biggest play of the game. He knocks Neal off of Watson. Neal would’ve taken him down if not for Milano. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 I would like to take a minute and say it was a crazy game. Thanks to the mods on here keeping things in check. We have a lot of work to do in the offseason. Emotions are crazy after such an insane game. After taking my blood pressure medicine and a few deep breaths I look forward to debating all of you on free agency and the draft. Fun season. Frustrating season. No reason to think the arrow isn’t pointing up though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meatloaf63 Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 18 minutes ago, WMDman said: Ford lost us this game with that late block A block that wasn’t a penalty? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitro Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 The OT drive. Running Allen and could have had a long run but Knox misses a key block. 8 yards from FG range and they rake a penalty. Once they punted, I knew in my gut that Houston was going to win. The defense was exposed by an athletic QB. Look forward to the draft and FA signings. Bills have a bright future 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stads Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Now I get to replay in my head Watson bouncing off of Milano and Neal. Yay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 1 minute ago, CincyBillsFan said: It's worse then short sighted it's damn stupid. Allen overall played well showing signs of brilliance. How do three guys miss #41 on that seep run by Allen in OT? How does an NFL WR drop a perfectly placed TD pass at the end of the 1st half that would have put us up 17 - 0? And how is Watt unblocked and/or single blocked multiple times in the 2nd half and in OT? If anything I'm even more bullish on Allen after this game. We need upgrading on offense. It's that simple. Agree on all fronts. We really need a RT overall. What a tough loss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Credz Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 The team was overhauled this year. They have 90 mil in cap space upcoming and the draft. Need better play calling though. They should have run Singletary more in OT when they crossed the 50, also the converted 3rd and 18 on the soft coverage burried us 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacklabel Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 What a poopy feeling. I dunno what was up with that second half but it wasn't pretty. Allen got overwhelmed, Daboll forgot he has Devin Singletary, the OL just allowing so many pressures right off the snap, that's been happening all season, McDermott needs to have a chat with Bobby Johnson on that stuff. And a bunch of other miscues. They had their chance, though. Seemed as the game went on they got more out of sync. Maybe it got too big for them. Anybody screaming for massive player/coach overhaul...walk it off cause that ain't it, chief. This team achieved a lot more than most thought they would and they're on the right path, just need a few more pieces. Lastly, holy effin' crap, I will jump in a piranha tank wearing steak underpants before I listen to Joe Tessitore again. Had it muted by the second quarter. I'd pay good money to see him get the taste slapped out his mouth. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Do The Reich Thing Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 1 minute ago, dakrider said: so they lost because of the lateral huh. geezez dude No man, they didn’t. It was one example of Allen and the offense not living up to what could’ve been after we built a lead. I am team Josh, but I’m allowed to critique the offense and him if they falter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPT Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, White Linen said: This is bunk. His WR's let him down constantly and he has to overcome the putrid play calling. Unrealistic to expect that from a 23 year old. Did you see John Brown hop up when he needed to get his feet down at the 10 yard line? Would've been first and goal, instead is a FG. So many examples. Dimarco is a WR in overtime for 7 plays? Really? I thought our receivers played much better than usual this game. Brown had two plays he should have had, but Allen was a mess most of the second half. Fumbling, overthrowing, underthrowing, throwing deep to DiMarco (partial blame to Daboll for even drawing up that crap), two piss poor attempts at the end zone to end the second half, lateraling the ball to nobody with a minute left, taking bad sacks. Allen had some really good throws too, but he played far below what he's capable of. He was obviously completely shell shocked by the 4th quarter. Edit: the O-line deserves a lot of blame for Allen's performance. Edited January 5, 2020 by MPT 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boco357 Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Let up two 2 pt conversions, 3rd and 17 and Tawain Jones beat you. Couldn't make enough plays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptide Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 This loss sucks. But surprisingly, I'm not that mad about it. This team is obviously on the rise, but just not there yet. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 outside of opening drive Daboll play calling was awful. Why they continue to use Gore as much as they do is sickening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanSD Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, pop gun said: if yo think that then you dont know what you are watching I like Allen. Just being realistic. I know everybody's nerves are raw so I'll drop it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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