Jrb1979 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 3 minutes ago, JMF2006 said: So why don't you become a Jax fan or cheer for the G men? JA is the Bills QB and for at least 4 more years barring serious injury. Then you are in big trouble. It's fine you want to cheer for him to succeed. I don't think he will be that top 10 guy. You guys keep saying it's only been 15 games but some other first year QBs look better in less games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5 Wide Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 The thing that concerns me is that he reverts really easily to bad habits. I'm not just talking about the hero ball stuff he does. Yesterday his mechanics were awful and it showed in his accuracy. Back foot throws, his shoulders flying open, he was missing really short throws to the flat, he was missing over the middle, he was just scattershot outside of 1 drive in the 3rd. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 2 minutes ago, Jrb1979 said: Then you are in big trouble. It's fine you want to cheer for him to succeed. I don't think he will be that top 10 guy. You guys keep saying it's only been 15 games but some other first year QBs look better in less games. He is fun to watch and 4 comebacks in 15 starts is a decent beginning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 11 minutes ago, Jrb1979 said: Then you are in big trouble. It's fine you want to cheer for him to succeed. I don't think he will be that top 10 guy. You guys keep saying it's only been 15 games but some other first year QBs look better in less games. And they will have tough games as well. Will you be on here saying that when they do? Because all young QBs will have their ups and downs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jrb1979 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 8 minutes ago, JMF2006 said: He is fun to watch and 4 comebacks in 15 starts is a decent beginning. I guess after all the bad QBs,since Kelly, anything looks better. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jrb1979 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Just now, oldmanfan said: And they will have tough games as well. Will you be on here saying that when they do? Because all young QBs will have their ups and downs. I know young QBs have their ups and downs. The difference is Allen has been down for most of it this season. Comeback wins are all well and good but you will lose a lot if you turn the ball over like Allen tends to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 ...lose faith?....in his 15th start?.......with nine new starters on offense?........SMH..........here comes the "fire everybody gang"........ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 He has 10 less interceptions in his first 16 games than Peyton Manning did. He’s a young player whose shown all the good stuff, he gets a lot more rope to hang himself. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TC in St. Louis Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 No. Put any second year quarterback up against Hoodie and Brady and you have problems. Aside from all the picks, he outplayed Brady. He's got a lot of talent and leadership qualities. I think he's got greatness ahead of him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 When a rookie 6th round pick in Jacksonville is running circles around our second-year “franchise QB”, you’ve got problems. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 19 minutes ago, mjt328 said: I can tell this isn't a very popular take. But yesterday's game was very concerning when it came to Josh Allen. For the first time since he was drafted, we are starting to see a legitimate stunt in his progress and a regression in his game. As Bills fans, winning is obviously the ultimate goal. Many are just happy that we hung with the Patriots until the last drive, and that our defense shut down the mighty Tom Brady. I am trying to look more long-term. Because I know that if we are going to eventually retake the AFC East and become a true contender, we need to see Josh Allen develop into a Top 10 Quarterback in this league. He's still got plenty of time to become that guy. But yesterday's game was clearly a step in the wrong direction. It's easy to make excuses about Allen's "hero ball" moments. Yes, every QB makes those kinds of throws occasionally when trying too hard to make a play. The problem with Allen, is that he keeps doing the same thing EVERY SINGLE WEEK and it's not registering in his head. He did it in the preseason. He did it Week 1 and Week 3. Then he did it twice against the Patriots yesterday. Defenses are learning to bait Allen into those throws, and he's just not learning from his mistakes. Anytime a young QB starts making the same mistakes over and over, it should set-off the alarm bells. We could have lost both the Jets and Bengals games because of those throws, and it's totally fair to say we lost to the Patriots because of the INTs. Agreed. His tendency to hold the ball too long might be a symptom of failing to quickly process what’s happening on the field, which would be a huge problem. Unfortunately, he’s looking like a guy who can only win games by mixing in a heavy dose of QB runs, whether planned or not. He’s not looking like a guy who can beat a good defense from the pocket. And it’s not just against Belichick. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjv001 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 What concerns me, is that the Bills Offense found success in the 3rd quarter with the no-huddle offense and then abandoned it. The no-huddle gave Allen more time at the line to analyze the Pats Defense and stymied Pats substitutions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjt328 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 33 minutes ago, Jrb1979 said: How many games are you going to give the kid? Thats always the answer Bills fans give. I'm sorry but their is QBs in their first season who already look better then Allen. Minshew in Jacksonville has played much better in his first 4 games. Has a completion % of 69% and 7 TDs to 1 int. By the middle/end of Year 3, you can usually tell where a QB's career is headed. If a quarterback shows occasional flashes of greatness, but remains inconsistent (Dak Prescott for a recent example), you may want to let him have a 4th season to prove himself. In response to your comment about Minshew.... Every QB has a different progression. Some start off great, then hit a wall. Some start off poorly, but eventually develop into great players. It's possible that Jacksonville is simplifying the offense for Minshew right now, which is giving him some easy throws and success. If so, defenses will ultimately catch on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllenHasBigHands Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 2 hours ago, GimmeSomeProcess said: The deep balls concern me but this New England defense is unreal. BB is a master vs young qbs and Allen didn’t have an answer. 1 bad game out of four isn’t concerning, yet. This is the correct answer. BB's MO is doing to rookie QBs what he did to Josh Allen. Josh will continue to grow and continue to get better. He has shown that he can learn the game, there is no reason to believe that will stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Allen lost us this game IMO. He made mistakes / forced throws and turnovers, left points on the field. The low snap blocked punt for a TD was nail in the coffin for us and it shouldn't of been. From what I have seen over 4 games this year. Josh struggles to see the field well enough. He makes multiple ill advised throws a game which is a pattern. He didn't seem to be taking the underneath stuff as much as he should of been. The quick 3 step pass showed up briefly but never became part of the overall flow of the game. This could be partial game planning, or Josh just ignoring the underneath stuff. He definitely has some areas to improve on. But today we saw his weaknesses on full display In the end our D did there job. A ST gaf, and the QB position came up short 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wsam4031 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Hes in his second year! lets let him keep developing and not keep judging him like hes a 10 year vet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 (edited) My biggest concern from yesterday is he did so many things wrong. It wasn't just one flaw. He made poor decision with the ball, and also he missed open receivers by 5 yards on down field throws, and also he missed easy short passes, and also he misread the defense, and also his mechanics were poor, and also he had bad situational awareness (sacks out of field goal range). It was the kind of game you expected to see from him in week 1 of last year, not game 4 of his sophomore season. Every negative from his scouting report was on full display. Yeah it worries me. Edited September 30, 2019 by HappyDays 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finn Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 This will keep you on the fence (or "dense" ?), but it's not as simple as "he's got to learn not to play hero ball," as people keep saying. His hero ball successes are primarily why he generates so much excitement. Fans WANT him to hold on to the ball for five seconds, sidestep three defenders and heave the ball across his body and off his back foot--IF it leads to a TD or touchdown. They eat it up, call him "amazing" and "athletic." No one says then, "He's got to stop playing hero ball" then, even though it's exactly the type of stupid play we're lamenting today, with less luck involved. He might learn to play more conservatively and take the big shots only when they're smart, but his fans aren't helping him by ecstatically cheering him when they're not smart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helpmenow Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 How much tape is on the Jax QB? Give them time maybe to figure him out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lfod Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 It's to early to give up on him in my opinion. He is the guy until he isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Not losing faith at all. Weird question. QBing is often about how you respond to adversity and his second half was a big improvement over his first. It’s a shame a cheap shot didn’t allow him the opportunity to continue his fourth quarter trends of this season. It would have been nice to see if Allen could have completely negated his bad first half. And Bill Belichick has made far better QBs than Allen look bad for decades now so I have to consider that as well. It’s interesting that fans have to make it more about Allen sucking than BB’s defensive wizardry. That Pats*** defense is incredible and there’s no shame in struggling against it because every team has their last five games going back to the SB. And I’m not convinced Daboll put our offense in the best position to succeed, either. But that’s another thread topic entirely. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddy Hix Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 I really have no idea what to think of Allen in terms of his ability to become a franchise QB. I was encouraged after his last six games last season but this year has been a mixed bag for sure. I've heard that accuracy can't be taught, whereas, ball security can be taught...yet Allen has improved his accuracy while treating the football like a hot potato. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuckyBoys Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 He was not ready on Sunday mentally. Pressed from the get go and it showed in the terrible decisions he made Its not easy to watch but he was a raw prospect and I think his ceiling is worth at least investing two seasons of starts. We would have won with mediocre mistake free qb play yesterday. It is what it is. Coaching staff has a tough job. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Haven’t given up on Allen by any means, but I have concerns about some decision made yesterday and in other games this year.. He looked a bit mentally overwhelmed in that first half yesterday.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramza86 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 I was worked up yesterday because you can just see how panicked he played. He was 100% rattled and just took any one on one he saw. Credit to Billy B again....I dont remember seeing any WRs getting separation. Josh was looking around for targets a lot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobot Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 In the heat of the moment, during the game, I was livid at Josh Allen and wanted him to be benched. The OP is absolutely correct in that his play at qb was putrid today, specifically in the 1st half. Today, I see this game as another calibration of Allen's development. I think he still needs to learn that he doesn't need to be a hero on EVERY SINGLE PLAY. 3 wins in a row where he was able to skate through some stretches of poor play clearly gave him some inflated understanding it means playing against NFL caliber players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloFan68 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 I am losing faith with the fans for being so hard on Josh. Josh reminds me a lot of Jim Kelly, throw 3 picks on the first half & then light it up in the 2nd half. Go back & watch Jimbo’s first 2 years & keep in mind that the defenses weren’t anywhere near to the level of what Josh faced yesterday. Zay Jones & some of the other players didn’t help much either yesterday. 1/11th & defenders rushing unaccounted for wasn’t Josh’s fault either = team effort. We’re still growing & will be fine, keep the faith. Let’s Go Buffalo!!!!! We got this. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemma Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Rams lost at home to Tampa. Pretty sure they'll cut Mr. 3 Interception Goff. If Beane was worth a hill of his name, he'd cut Allen and pick up Goff. Or maybe people could just take a little nap, then pet their dog & have some hot chocolate with marshmallows. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 20 minutes ago, Nihilarian said: Now look what happened in the 2nd half, Allen went 6-6 while scoring a TD on a defense that hadn't allowed an offensive TD this season previously! If Allen doesn't get injured my take is he takes the team to a comeback win! It truly is embarrassing how quickly some Bills fans jump off the bandwagon and complain endlessly about a young QB with not even a full season under his belt. The Bills offense just went against the very best defense in the NFL, the SB champs who beat the Chiefs in last years AFC Champ game. You look at what Allen did in the 2nd half after the TD drive before he was injured: 5 attempts, 2 completions, 1 INT in 3 possessions, 2 of which were 3 and outs. 20 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: I have not lost faith in the kid. He got a lesson yesterday from the best HC and best DC that has ever coached in the NFL. That said, while I anticipate young QBs will make mistakes, I think it is a legitimate criticism of Allen that he has to stop making the same mistake over and over. He cannot keep throwing late downfield into coverage, hoping to make a big paly happen. The first pick he has to see the safety, the other two you just cannot make those throws into the into of coverage the Pats had. The first 4 games, you can see how much potential the kid has. You don't lead your team from behind in three games like he did to win (and may have yesterday if he hadn't gotten hurt) and not have what it takes. But he has to play smarter. A lesson are only successful if the student learns from it, and Allen doesn't seem to do that. He didn't play any "smarter" yesterday than he did last season before he got hurt. 18 minutes ago, BillsFanSD said: Allen was bad yesterday. I haven't rewatched any of the game, but just from the broadcast it seemed pretty clear that he was having a hard time understanding the defense and was holding onto the ball too long as a result. That doesn't concern me in the slightest -- this sort of thing happens when a young QB goes up against a Belichick defense. He'll improve with experience in this area. I am getting concerned about two things though. The first is that he keeps making the same ugly interceptions over and over by rolling to his right and throwing back across his body. He knows that he shouldn't do this because he says so after games, but he keeps doing it anyway. I don't pretend to know whether this is a maturity issue, a coaching issue, or what, but it's undeniably a problem. The second cause for concern is the way he mopes on the sideline after making a mistake and the way he seems to be rattled when he comes back onto the field. Again, maybe it's just the immaturity of a young player, but they guy needs to grow some thicker skin. These are things that I've observed over the first four games of the season. No reason to overreact to one bad game against New England, but the decision-making needs to improve. After the second or third INT in the first half, there was a shot on TV of Daboll yelling at Allen and pointing to his head with a gesture that surely said "THINK!!!!". 16 minutes ago, Juice_32 said: When we drafted Allen he was considered a raw but super talented player who needed time to mature and grow as a player. No one considered him a finished product. He’s on the exact trajectory I expected and hoped for. He has a long way to go but I’m enjoying he hell out of the ride. So, name all the "project QBs" -- "raw but super talented" -- drafted in the first round since 2001 who have gone on to become great NFL QBs. I can't think of even one. All the "project QBs" who have developed into good/great NFL QBs were either drafted outside the first round (Jacoby Brissett, Dak Prescott) or were UDFAs (Tony Romo). Here are the first round QBs since 2001 so you don't miss some first round "project QB" who actually developed into a good/great QB. 2001 - Michael Vick 2002 - David Carr, Joey Harrington, Patrick Ramsey 2003 - Carson Palmer, Byron Leftwich, Kyle Boller, Rex Grossman 2004 - Eli Manning, Phillip Rivers, Ben Roethlisberger, JP Lossman 2005 - Alex Smith, Aaron Rodgers 2006 - Vince Young, Matt Leinart, Jay Cutler 2007 - JaMarcus Russell, Brady Quinn 2008 - Matt Ryan, Joe Flacco 2009 - Matthew Stafford, Mark Sanchez, Josh Freeman 2010 - Sam Bradford, Tim Tebow 2011 - Cam Newton, Jake Locker, Blaine Gabbert, Christian Ponder 2012 - Andrew Luck, Robert Griffin III, Ryan Tannehill, Brandon Weeden 2013 - EJ Manuel 2014 - Blake Bortles, Johnny Manziel, Teddy Bridgewater 2015 - Jameis Winston, Marcus Mariota 2016 - Jared Goff, Carson Wentz, Paxton Lynch 2017 - Mitch Trubisky, Patrick Mahomes, Deshaun Watson 2018 - Baker Mayfield, Sam Darnold, Josh Allen, Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Brady looked as bad as Josh yesterday. The td drive showed me the flash of greatness that Josh can pull off so we need more of that. Josh is making throws that I was told before the draft that he would never be able to make. He's growing and learning and for at least some time he can be a guy that can get us wins but obviously he has got to stop the int's. The frustrating part is that it seems the int's are all the same throw on the same side of the field right? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiseman3 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 If you lose faith after 1 bad game, then you probably didn't have faith to begin with. Josh had improved in almost every way before this game. Its the NFL, bad games happen. Do you think Patriots fans have lost faith in Brady after his awful performance? Nope. And to say he was the sole reason we lost is dumb. We just forgetting about the blocked punt? We win the game if that doesn't happen 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionC3 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Not in the least. We lost the game because he was atrocious in the first half. And we couldn’t come back to win it because he got hurt. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apocalypse Nuts Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 (edited) Oh jeez. Really? I'm not going to bother reading through all the other replies. OP, stop being ridiculous. He's a very, very raw QB and he's 3-1 for Pete's sake. What the F do you want? 4-0 and 100 points a game? He got eaten alive by BB and that crazy Pats D. Totally expected. His receivers were not getting any separation not even Brown. What the F do you expect to happen? Look what BB did to McVay's high-flying Rams offense in the SB. And you're ready to give up on him? If you've lost faith than you are. Unbelievable. I suggest you take a step back and get some freaking perspective right now. Everyone's expectations for him and the offense are way to high this season. It's all hinging on Allen and his progress. Well you know what? He has a long way to go. Being 3-1 right now is proof of some major progress. He got walloped today against the greatest defensive mind in the history of the game. Why is that a surprise? JA is going to need a few seasons before he really has the experience to start making judgments like this. It's just unbelievable what some of your expectations are. Do you have any idea how little experience he has coming into the pros compared the Mayfield, Darnold, and those guys who went to big schools in big conferences? It's night and day. He's a big project and that will take some time. At least we finally have this to look forward to after 2+ decades of total crap QB's. Sit back and enjoy the ride. You know what? All you whiners ready to jump ship this early on go ahead and keep doing what you're doing. What we say isn't going to change it anyway. I'm gonna enjoy the experience because if he does develop over the next few seasons, he's going to be something really, really special. But you go ahead and give up on him now. Whatever floats your boat. Edited September 30, 2019 by Distorted One 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Maybe I’ve lost faith in his helmet no no I wanted to see him back in the game. I belive he could have won it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 I predicted that he’d be a superstar, but after yesterday I’d be lying if I said I wasn’t worried. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trogdor Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 10 minutes ago, BuffaloFan68 said: I am losing faith with the fans for being so hard on Josh. Josh reminds me a lot of Jim Kelly, throw 3 picks on the first half & then light it up in the 2nd half. Go back & watch Jimbo’s first 2 years & keep in mind that the defenses weren’t anywhere near to the level of what Josh faced yesterday. Zay Jones & some of the other players didn’t help much either yesterday. 1/11th & defenders rushing unaccounted for wasn’t Josh’s fault either = team effort. We’re still growing & will be fine, keep the faith. Let’s Go Buffalo!!!!! We got this. A big difference is that he never looks good against quality opponents. He was just as bad with consistency for 3/4 of the Jets game until Mosely got hurt. The end of last year to the start of this year was a cupcake schedule, and I'm still waiting for that win over a good team. Missing blitzers presnap is his fault, a missed block isn't, but he is bad presnap. They need to find a way to help him in that area. They have to keep a TE in to help Ford if they put him at RT or do something to help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrober38 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 I never thought he'd succeed. Have seen enough promising signs from him to think I might be wrong, but his decision making is a major problem at this point. He makes mistakes you're taught not to make in high school. His situational awareness as a QB is pretty awful. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juice_32 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 9 minutes ago, SoTier said: You look at what Allen did in the 2nd half after the TD drive before he was injured: 5 attempts, 2 completions, 1 INT in 3 possessions, 2 of which were 3 and outs. A lesson are only successful if the student learns from it, and Allen doesn't seem to do that. He didn't play any "smarter" yesterday than he did last season before he got hurt. After the second or third INT in the first half, there was a shot on TV of Daboll yelling at Allen and pointing to his head with a gesture that surely said "THINK!!!!". So, name all the "project QBs" -- "raw but super talented" -- drafted in the first round since 2001 who have gone on to become great NFL QBs. I can't think of even one. All the "project QBs" who have developed into good/great NFL QBs were either drafted outside the first round (Jacoby Brissett, Dak Prescott) or were UDFAs (Tony Romo). Here are the first round QBs since 2001 so you don't miss some first round "project QB" who actually developed into a good/great QB. 2001 - Michael Vick 2002 - David Carr, Joey Harrington, Patrick Ramsey 2003 - Carson Palmer, Byron Leftwich, Kyle Boller, Rex Grossman 2004 - Eli Manning, Phillip Rivers, Ben Roethlisberger, JP Lossman 2005 - Alex Smith, Aaron Rodgers 2006 - Vince Young, Matt Leinart, Jay Cutler 2007 - JaMarcus Russell, Brady Quinn 2008 - Matt Ryan, Joe Flacco 2009 - Matthew Stafford, Mark Sanchez, Josh Freeman 2010 - Sam Bradford, Tim Tebow 2011 - Cam Newton, Jake Locker, Blaine Gabbert, Christian Ponder 2012 - Andrew Luck, Robert Griffin III, Ryan Tannehill, Brandon Weeden 2013 - EJ Manuel 2014 - Blake Bortles, Johnny Manziel, Teddy Bridgewater 2015 - Jameis Winston, Marcus Mariota 2016 - Jared Goff, Carson Wentz, Paxton Lynch 2017 - Mitch Trubisky, Patrick Mahomes, Deshaun Watson 2018 - Baker Mayfield, Sam Darnold, Josh Allen, Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson Project is your word, not mine. Project QB's are taken in the late rounds. Raw but talented? How about Mahomes? Show me the scouting report that called him a finished product...I'll wait. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dje85 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 (edited) Hard to put this game just on Allen. Yes he made some putrid decisions and many times tried to do too much but it should be a learning process. But the wrs didn't get much if any seperation most of the game. The line didn't block and the untimely holding calls most the game didn't help either. Hard to get a rhythm when penaltes push you back a ton (more early in the game with Lee Smith). Give him another true number one wr put Lee Smith on the bench, and let the line gel by having a true rt not this rotation monstrosity. If he still doesn't start improving after that then yup I'll be worried. I am ready to move on from Lee Smith the guy was just bad. And Boroquez is on a short leash with me. Not due to the blocked punt that was on the line not blocking the gunner. But the terrible 20 yard punt I believe was the next drive? You have one job man. Edited September 30, 2019 by dje85 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirate Angel Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 He just needs to take a sack, throw, it away, or throw it in the dirt instead of gambling and throwing picks. Also Everytime we pass he is in shotgun formation, now that does help a young QB see the field but it also telegraphs that your passing. Recall all the reverse and flips to TEs and Wrs that were effective against Cinci...runs out of the shotgun against a team that was in pass defense. Now belicheck with much better safety's bring players closer to the line and retreat into pass protection which allows for more speed closer to the line nullyfying those types of plays. The first pick Josh locked on to John brown assuming he had him 1 on 1 and didn't see the safety playing deep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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