transplantbillsfan Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 This probably could have been a joke or troll thread at some point this year, but I'm posting it because I absolutely think Sherfield will just be better than Gabe for the playoff run. Great run blocker like Gabe. Demonstrated the same sideline awareness Gabe has made himself famous for with that TD. And that just leaves the question of the communication... well, Gabe has shown 4 years of catching passes from Allen hasn't done anything for his understanding of things like what route he should run on a zero Blitz, so I'll put my money on Sherfield and his veteran experience. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 Gabe has showed up big on occasional as in KC game. Never seen Sherfield play that well. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 I say yes, even though Sherfield has had his share of blunders and disappearances this season. Gabe has just been a complete non-factor, so I don't think it takes much for Sherfield to outperform him. I'll be pleasantly surprised if he's a significant factor. I hope this means more reps for Diggs/Shakiir/Kincaid/Knox. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalo2218 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 Honestly, I think Shakir could fill the role himself. I know most people would rather keep him in the slot, but I believe he could do the job as a #2 7 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelius Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 I think it’s going to be more of the same - continued disappointment in the #2 role and Sherf Sr as more targets drift to Kincaid and Shakir. For what it’s worth I do not think Sherfield is a better WR than Gabe no, but also am not sure if it matters much 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 (edited) 19 minutes ago, buffalo2218 said: Honestly, I think Shakir could fill the role himself. I know most people would rather keep him in the slot, but I believe he could do the job as a #2 Basically Shakir is our #2 now and Kincaid #3. I'd advance Sherfield to #4. Knox #5 outlet. That's my pecking order for the playoffs. Sorry Gabe but I'm drastically reducing your snaps unless someone gets hurt. Edited January 8 by LABILLBACKER 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalo2218 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 3 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: Basically Shakir is our #2 now and Kincaid #3. I'd advance Sherfield to #4. That's my pecking order for the playoffs. Sorry Gabe but I'm drastically reducing your snaps unless someone gets hurt. I couldn't agree with you more on reducing Gabe's snap count. Dude fell off quite fast 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 32 minutes ago, Nelius said: I think it’s going to be more of the same - continued disappointment in the #2 role and Sherf Sr as more targets drift to Kincaid and Shakir. For what it’s worth I do not think Sherfield is a better WR than Gabe no, but also am not sure if it matters much If sherfield isn’t far above Davis in the passing game I think Davis will be missed…he’s a good run blocker. Our rbs averaged 2.91 ypc tonight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickelCity Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 Sherfield might be the only one of our receivers who can execute those pass plays where we immediately pass it wide to the receiver at the LOS and they charge forward. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 I hope Davis is able to play warts and all. Sure he drops some, but he also catches a lot and he's a good blocker. Maybe Sherfield is too but he's a lot scrawnier than Gabe. It's dance with who brung ya time. If Gabe can't go, then yeah, Sherfield is the guy. Next man up. I think he'll do alright. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 Work shakur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefan66 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 2 hours ago, buffalo2218 said: Honestly, I think Shakir could fill the role himself. I know most people would rather keep him in the slot, but I believe he could do the job as a #2 I also would like to see Shakir in the role. Not sure his body size is suited to anything other than slot. Don’t see him making the great sideline catches we have seen Gabe make. Or disappear like Gabe has…. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 Gabe Davis is capable of having a big game that I just don’t think Trent is really capable of. I loved what Trent did stepping up in his revenge game but I am not sure this team is better off with him over Gabe. That being said I think Shakir and the TE’s getting more snaps and targets is not a bad thing. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Stonada Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 Gabe is a good run blocker, yes. But our running game should not be dependent on a WR blocking! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurpleBull Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 Khalil Shakir looks like he could be Diggs' replacement if he doesn't return next season. Davis just isn't good enough to be a reliable #2. I'm giving the nod to Shakir over Sherfield if the team's trying to line the next best WR up across from Diggs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 4 hours ago, LABILLBACKER said: Basically Shakir is our #2 now and Kincaid #3. I'd advance Sherfield to #4. Knox #5 outlet. That's my pecking order for the playoffs. Sorry Gabe but I'm drastically reducing your snaps unless someone gets hurt. You are not understanding what people mean by WR2. It doesn't mean #2 in targets 4 minutes ago, BurpleBull said: Khalil Shakir looks like he could be Diggs' replacement if he doesn't return next season. Davis just isn't good enough to be a reliable #2. I'm giving the nod to Shakir over Sherfield if the team's trying to line the next best WR up across from Diggs. Sorry, but you think Shakir can be a #1 WR? Diggs isn't going anywhere. He is still an elite WR. WR#2 played college football last month 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurpleBull Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 44 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said: You are not understanding what people mean by WR2. It doesn't mean #2 in targets Sorry, but you think Shakir can be a #1 WR? Diggs isn't going anywhere. He is still an elite WR. WR#2 played college football last month Didn't suggest Diggs wasn't still an elite WR, but if there's any truth to these rumors he might not return, and yes, I do hope he finishes his career with Allen. I don't see anything that suggest Khalil Shakir couldn't be a #1 WR. He can emerge if Davis remains out, and then it will become evident that he's the more consistent, reliable WR between himself and Davis. If Diggs didn't return and we moved forward with the current WR roster, I think Shakir would be Bills' best WR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yobogoya! Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 Honestly if Gabe is responsible for even HALF the miscommunication ints this board attributes to him, I don’t know how the Bills can justify continuing to keep him on the field when healthy. There’s just no excuse for a year 4 player who’s been in the same system with the same QB all his pro career to be routinely involved in blunders of this magnitude. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 My final memory of Gabe Davis as a Buffalo Bills will be him tripping himself trying to make a play for Josh. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 Gabe is better but I don't think we are missing a ton. Gabe is either always in the wrong spot or Josh is throwing to the wrong spot. Maybe just having a body there will be better than someone who is not where he's supposed to be Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmart128 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 Probably not as many huge big games but I can see Sherfield more consistent with less 0 catch performances. Gabe did have a huge block that sprung Khalil Shakir for a big game. He blocked a miami player into another and took out 2 players with one block. One of the best blocks by a WR ive ever seen. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 Do we activate Shorter shortly? Or did we already? Thought I saw something about it last week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SageAgainstTheMachine Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 Gabe goes quiet but then can go and swing a game all by himself on occasion. Sherfield is just kind of nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yobogoya! Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 8 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: Do we activate Shorter shortly? Or did we already? Thought I saw something about it last week. Shorter window closed, his season is done. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 Isabella or shavers. Probably Isabella but shavers has size. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBF81 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 3 hours ago, billsfan89 said: Gabe Davis is capable of having a big game that I just don’t think Trent is really capable of. I loved what Trent did stepping up in his revenge game but I am not sure this team is better off with him over Gabe. That being said I think Shakir and the TE’s getting more snaps and targets is not a bad thing. To your point, his best game ever was in 2018, 5 catches for 77 yards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 A better #2? No. Will he be the outside WR that sends more focus to Shakir and Kincaid which is a very good thing, though. He’ll be the 4th/5th option which is suited for him. In 2 WR sets last night it was Diggs and Shakir, unless I’m mistaken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 If he's more consistent and cuts down on the mistakes, I think he could be. Davis is more talented, but it seems like an unusually high percentage of bad plays happen on passes in his direction, including two more last night. Maybe it's not all his fault, but at the same time, it's not working. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skibum Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 The guy has one highlight-reel catch and we're anointing him the new #2. Sherfield had 86 yards all season. Gabe had five games with more than that. Come on, people. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 I'd mix harty in too - a little shiftier on some of the short stuff and he's lined up a bit more on the outside in the past. Healthy knox and kincaid means you can roll with 2 TEs a fair amount as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bouds Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 Shakir, when given targets is the most efficient WR on this team. Now the sample is small but give him more targets and see what he does. I hope Gabe's healthy, but Shakir deserves a long look, the guy has been really good the last two months when targeted. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msw2112 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 (edited) I thought Sherfield was a good signing and that he'd have a larger role in the offense this year. I don't blame his lack of production on a lack of talent; I think it's just a numbers game. There's only 1 ball and you have to feed Diggs, Davis, Kincaid, Shakir, Knox, plus the Bills are running more this season. That doesn't leave a lot of touches for Sherfield and Harty. Sherfield stepped up big last night and if Davis is out next week, I think we'll see a little more of him. I honestly can't say whether he'd be a better #2 than Davis, as the sample size of his play is just too small and he's never had that opportunity in the NFL. I'd guess that based on his draft status and the fact that he's bounced around the league a little bit that he's less talented than Davis, so he would not be as good of a #2. While I agree with the criticism of Davis for his drops, I don't agree with the heavy criticism for his lack of receptions in certain games. The offense has to take what the defense gives it. Some games Diggs is "quiet" and others Davis is quiet. It depends on the flow of the game, the coverages, etc. No one can question that Davis has had a number of big games for the Bills this season and over the course of his career. He's also a glue guy and known as a very hard worker. If he leaves the team, it's because of the salary cap. I'm guessing he'll be able to make a lot more money - potentially life-changing money - somewhere other than the Bills. If that's the case, I wish him well. Edited January 8 by msw2112 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 1 hour ago, bouds said: Shakir, when given targets is the most efficient WR on this team. Now the sample is small but give him more targets and see what he does. I hope Gabe's healthy, but Shakir deserves a long look, the guy has been really good the last two months when targeted. 100% agree. Allen and Shakir just seem to be linked at this phase. These Gabe communication issues need to end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da webster guy Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 Using the numbers ranking for receivers has always made no sense to me. Our two best targets for the past month have been Shakir and Kincaid. Everyone else is in the mix depending on defensive gameplan and what reads are hot for Josh. Sherfield has been pretty inconsistent this season but he'll get some opportunities here. Obviously Stef 5-8 targets per game. I thought they might want to activate Shorter for a limited role, and if one more guy goes down he's gonna be forced out there. Would love to see him get some live reps in the second half of the Steelers game when we're up by three scores. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 4 hours ago, Ethan in Cleveland said: You are not understanding what people mean by WR2. It doesn't mean #2 in targets Sorry, but you think Shakir can be a #1 WR? Diggs isn't going anywhere. He is still an elite WR. WR#2 played college football last month perhaps WR2 playing today! (unless it's MHJ, one can dream) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 I don't think so, but what this does is maybe get Harty on the field more, they'll lean on Shakir more, and possibly elevate Isabella. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 9 hours ago, buffalo2218 said: Honestly, I think Shakir could fill the role himself. I know most people would rather keep him in the slot, but I believe he could do the job as a #2 I believe both Sherfield and Shakir can play inside and outside. Their versatility is part of their value add. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeFrommStateFarm Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 (edited) Sherfield is only under contract for one season. Gabe is done this year too. Shorter is the anointed replacement at 6'4 220 and runs a 4.5 Edited January 8 by JakeFrommStateFarm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruffalo Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 (edited) 3 hours ago, Yobogoya! said: Honestly if Gabe is responsible for even HALF the miscommunication ints this board attributes to him, I don’t know how the Bills can justify continuing to keep him on the field when healthy. There’s just no excuse for a year 4 player who’s been in the same system with the same QB all his pro career to be routinely involved in blunders of this magnitude. For better or worse, this team is fiercely loyal to "their guys". We've had 0 production from Von but they keep trotting him out there until they finally shifted last week. Edited January 8 by Bruffalo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBF81 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 8 hours ago, NickelCity said: Sherfield might be the only one of our receivers who can execute those pass plays where we immediately pass it wide to the receiver at the LOS and they charge forward. Sherfield had the worst catch% on the team. 22 targets, 11 catches 50% Also the worst yards-per both target and reception. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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