Special K Posted November 18, 2023 Share Posted November 18, 2023 I’m not saying the Bills should do this now, but if the back to back serious injuries cause Tre to lose a step or two, would he be a candidate to move to Safety to extend his career?? The Bills will be moving on from Hyde and Poyer soon enough.....Tre is a great ball-hawk, but could he tackle well enough to be a Safety?? Thoughts?? 1 1 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted November 18, 2023 Share Posted November 18, 2023 No, he's a horrible tackler 14 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted November 18, 2023 Share Posted November 18, 2023 Nah, he's probably played his last play in the league already. Probably ditto for Hyde. 7 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sven233 Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 Yeah.....this is a tough one. While he has nice ball skills, he is an atrocious tackler. If you don't want to ever use him as a box safety, and you just want him patrolling the back end, I think he could probably do something like that. But in today's NFL, you want safeties that can creep up and be that extra tackler in the box and he has just never shown that he is a good enough tackler to do that. Would be a tough ask, I think, to have him convert unfortunately. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddy Hix Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 Tre is scared of contact, wouldn’t work 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 10 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: Nah, he's probably played his last play in the league already. Probably ditto for Hyde. Hyde was a full participant in practice on Friday and doesn’t have a designation so all indications is that he’ll play tomorrow. 1 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted November 19, 2023 Author Share Posted November 19, 2023 15 minutes ago, Dablitzkrieg said: No, he's a horrible tackler 7 minutes ago, sven233 said: Yeah.....this is a tough one. While he has nice ball skills, he is an atrocious tackler. If you don't want to ever use him as a box safety, and you just want him patrolling the back end, I think he could probably do something like that. But in today's NFL, you want safeties that can creep up and be that extra tackler in the box and he has just never shown that he is a good enough tackler to do that. Would be a tough ask, I think, to have him convert unfortunately. 6 minutes ago, Buddy Hix said: Tre is scared of contact, wouldn’t work Yeah, I was thinking tackling would be the issue.....its a shame how old and slow the Bills once dominant secondary has become. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 He can safely make his way toward the exit and climb into the Brinks truck Beane gifted him. 2 2 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 I think you could very well see a much different secondary for Buffalo next year. I dont expect White, Hyde, or Dane Jackson to be back. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMM Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 No, he's a pure corner who is not a big hitter and not a great tackler. Frankly with those 2 serious injuries I doubt he plays again, and the Bills should make an injury settlement a priority with him and move on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 No…very unlikely … He is not physical enough.. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliBills Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 Hyde, Tre, Poyer are difficult to replace 2 years ago. Last year/this year it is definitely easier due to age/injury Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerBillsFan Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 45 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: Nah, he's probably played his last play in the league already. Probably ditto for Hyde. And Poyer. As for as white is concerned, and ACL is one thing,but an Achilles is a whole other deal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 I suggested this two years ago afyer the knee injury and got flamed. He actually was playing ok at CB this year. My hunch is his career is over. Certainly over with the Bills. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPL Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 Wait, I thought we were moving Benford to safety... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uticaclub Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 41 minutes ago, Gugny said: He can safely make his way toward the exit and climb into the Brinks truck Beane gifted him. He earned his contract, the injuries are unfortunate. He was a top lock down corner befor Stinksgiving 2021 6 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said: I suggested this two years ago afyer the knee injury and got flamed. He actually was playing ok at CB this year. My hunch is his career is over. Certainly over with the Bills. Ahhh Zach Wilson, Jimmy G & Sam Howells 3rd start. He struggled in camp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Doug Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 Getting White’s contract off the books >>>> Turning White into a safety 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prospector Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 1 hour ago, Nextmanup said: Nah, he's probably played his last play in the league already. Probably ditto for Hyde. The thumbs up wasn’t meant that I like the comment, rather that I think it’s probably true. They are both gonna be back up quality when/if they return Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 (edited) Nope. They can get out from under his contract after this season and they almost have to at this point. For the sake of our salary cap situation and for the sake of there being no logic in paying him what he's owed in the condition that he's in. It's a sad situation but it's a no brainier business decision. The only way he returns is if they release him from his deal and then bring him back under a 1 year minimum, incentive laden deal as a try out to see if he even can play again. Edited November 19, 2023 by BillsFanForever19 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrivefourfive Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 Tackling, willingness to chase and tackle, blasting forward to make tackles. At safety, great ball skills are more useful than coverage ability. You run to a spot and play the ball. At CB, you run with you guy and deny his chances to get open. This is never going to happen. Time to move on with it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 Benford, Elam, Johnson 👍🏼 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotAGuy Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 52 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said: And Poyer. As for as white is concerned, and ACL is one thing,but an Achilles is a whole other deal. Aaron Rodgers has left the dark room and entered the chat. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 They should never again pay a premium contract or draft pick on corner. They’ve well proven they can find bargain talent to fit the scheme and the TreD contract and Elam pick are just insult to injury. Hyde, Benford, Dane, Cam Lewis, Poyer, Levi Wallace even Taron Johnson. hell going back even Josh Norman is an example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 1 minute ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: They should never again pay a premium contract or draft pick on corner. They’ve well proven they can find bargain talent to fit the scheme and the TreD contract and Elam pick are just insult to injury. Hyde, Benford, Dane, Cam Lewis, Poyer, Levi Wallace even Taron Johnson. hell going back even Josh Norman is an example. Only if they keep the current coaching staff. It’s them they finds value in DBs. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 4 minutes ago, Low Positive said: Only if they keep the current coaching staff. It’s them they finds value in DBs. Absolutely- if they can McDermott the defense likely needs a major makeover the entire back 7 is probably in question. There might be one of two other guys that could work with it as is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 1 hour ago, Saint Doug said: Getting White’s contract off the books >>>> Turning White into a safety I think there's a pretty fair chance he's offered to stay if he accepts a pay cut, much like Mitch Morse did I believe 2 seasons back. He very well may be open to it as he would not likely fetch too much in the open market coming off 2 serious injuries. If we can bring him back and his rehab goes well he would possibly be a very solid #2 CB at a reduced rate with Rasul stepping in at CB1. This could also lead to Benford working at safety some and Dane Jackson being brought back to battle a FA and/or rookie for 3rd boundary CB spot and Kaiir Elam getting a token opportunity. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerBillsFan Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 31 minutes ago, WotAGuy said: Aaron Rodgers has left the dark room and entered the chat. Achilles rupture for a QB is much different than for a CB, or WR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trogdor Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 55 minutes ago, Thrivefourfive said: Tackling, willingness to chase and tackle, blasting forward to make tackles. At safety, great ball skills are more useful than coverage ability. You run to a spot and play the ball. At CB, you run with you guy and deny his chances to get open. This is never going to happen. Time to move on with it. IMO this is why Rapp was available, he isn't looking to make a play on the ball, he is looking to make a 70s style highlight hit. Hyde is still good enough to get time, but he is slower and that's tough. 22 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: Absolutely- if they can McDermott the defense likely needs a major makeover the entire back 7 is probably in question. There might be one of two other guys that could work with it as is. Whoever takes over this team will be going all in on offense. They have to, the cap is going to be a mess with a series of poor drafts not helping anyone. There won't be anywhere near enough capital to address both sides next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearNorth Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 Its been noted for years, that Douglas has great size & instincts that would translate to safety after his CB days. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 First, he hast to show he can even stay on the field I love tre He has given us some great years, but the injury bug has hit him hard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 6 hours ago, Special K said: I’m not saying the Bills should do this now, but if the back to back serious injuries cause Tre to lose a step or two, would he be a candidate to move to Safety to extend his career?? The Bills will be moving on from Hyde and Poyer soon enough.....Tre is a great ball-hawk, but could he tackle well enough to be a Safety?? Thoughts?? At this point with these back to back season enders, Tre's probably slower than both Poy & Micah. All 3 are done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsGospel2014 Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 6 hours ago, Special K said: I’m not saying the Bills should do this now, but if the back to back serious injuries cause Tre to lose a step or two, would he be a candidate to move to Safety to extend his career?? The Bills will be moving on from Hyde and Poyer soon enough.....Tre is a great ball-hawk, but could he tackle well enough to be a Safety?? Thoughts?? Like others have stated his tackling is a liability especially at S and his price tag is way too high imo. I just hope he can get back to form, he's such a good dude and a top notch player when healthy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billzgobowlin Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 8 hours ago, Nextmanup said: Nah, he's probably played his last play in the league already. Probably ditto for Hyde. Since he will be starting Sunday not sure I would agree 2 hours ago, LABILLBACKER said: At this point with these back to back season enders, Tre's probably slower than both Poy & Micah. All 3 are done. Don't get why people actually think this is a thing. Micah and Poyer look like they are playing well especially Micah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 20 minutes ago, Billzgobowlin said: Don't get why people actually think this is a thing. Micah and Poyer look like they are playing well especially Micah. Poyer looks like his old self after a slow start and his PFF grade (I know it's not gospel) is similar to previous seasons. Hyde does look like he lost a step though and the metrics back that up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 why do you want someone slower who has lost a step or two to play safety? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 He does not have the physicality to play safety. He will no longer be a Bill. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 12 hours ago, Nextmanup said: Nah, he's probably played his last play in the league already. Probably ditto for Hyde. Isn’t Hyde playing today? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 13 hours ago, Dablitzkrieg said: No, he's a horrible tackler He’s also too small so he won’t take on big backs like sometimes you need to do as a safety. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 Benford, maybe (if we can keep Jackson and Elim finds a way to contribute). Tre, no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Quint Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 13 hours ago, Nextmanup said: Nah, he's probably played his last play in the league already. Probably ditto for Hyde. I wouldn't say their last play, but their last good play is behind them both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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