ChronicAndKnuckles Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 I never ever understood the hate for Tyrod Taylor. He was a dynamic athlete that defenses had to properly game plan against and played a big role in breaking the 17 year drought. I think he is one of the better dual threats of all time and it’s cool seeing the contrast between TT and Allen as runners. Why is he not a bigger part of Bills’ lore? He got done what a **** load of previous QBs couldn’t. It’s not like Losman, Bledsoe, or Fitz didn’t have good defenses too. So I really don’t wanna hear how the defense alone propelled us there. It was also Tyrod’s legs and low turnover rate + big play ability as well. 5 3 4 2 1 2 3 16 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 How many all time dual threats are on your list? 2 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 6 minutes ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said: I never ever understood the hate for Tyrod Taylor. He was a dynamic athlete that defenses had to properly game plan against and played a big role in breaking the 17 year drought. I think he is one of the better dual threats of all time and it’s cool seeing the contrast between TT and Allen as runners. Why is he not a bigger part of Bills’ lore? He got done what a **** load of previous QBs couldn’t. It’s not like Losman, Bledsoe, or Fitz didn’t have good defenses too. So I really don’t wanna hear how the defense alone propelled us there. It was also Tyrod’s legs and low turnover rate + big play ability as well. You're overthinking this. If I had a nickel for every time I yelled at the TV for Tryhard to pass the ball, I'd be retired. The dude was so risk-averse that he singlehandedly killed drives 13 24 2 3 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 7 minutes ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said: I never ever understood the hate for Tyrod Taylor. He was a dynamic athlete that defenses had to properly game plan against and played a big role in breaking the 17 year drought. I think he is one of the better dual threats of all time and it’s cool seeing the contrast between TT and Allen as runners. Why is he not a bigger part of Bills’ lore? He got done what a **** load of previous QBs couldn’t. It’s not like Losman, Bledsoe, or Fitz didn’t have good defenses too. So I really don’t wanna hear how the defense alone propelled us there. It was also Tyrod’s legs and low turnover rate + big play ability as well. Fitz had miserable defenses during his time in Buffalo. 5 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transient Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 Reverence is reserved for divinity or something extraordinary… there was nothing out of ordinary about Taylor. He was perfectly average at the end of the day. 3 5 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWK Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 Because he wasn’t that good 6 5 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted June 29, 2023 Author Share Posted June 29, 2023 2 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: How many all time dual threats are on your list? Taylor has a 5.7 yards per carry career stat line (same as Allen.)Cam Newton averages 5 even. Vick is 7. So I think that puts him on that list. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddyjj Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 Cuz the game plan against him was simple. “Make him play QB and throw” 4 1 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mynamemike Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 I don’t ever see much hate for Tyrod. Good dude, decent qb who didn’t take risks but wouldn’t lose you games with boneheaded plays. He had the physical tools to be great imo but seemed hesitant to take risks to win games. Just my two cents. One of the better qbs we had during the drought 8 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 I appreciated Tyrod. He was a decent bridge QB. For some reason, many expected more out of him which was unrealistic. In 2015 he actually had one of the highest yards per attempts numbers in the league while limiting int's. So he was taking chances, but that did change over the next couple years as the WR room changed. His top target in 2017 was deonte thompson... 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uninja Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 He was a Rex Grossman/Trent Dilfer type, he was alright but he wasn't going to win you a game when the chips were down. I'd argue that Shady got us to the playoffs just as much as Tyrod did. 4 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 In a nutshell he did some good things, a few times per game, he just never seemed like a permanent solution imo. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capco Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 Ironically, I was just thinking about this yesterday. Granted, the league wasn't as pass-friendly in the 80s and 90s as it is today, but Tyrod has a higher career passer rating (88.2) than Jim Kelly (84.4). His passer rating during his three years as a Bill was 92.5, and he only committed 21 turnovers (16 INTs, 5 lost fumbles). He almost broke the record for the highest single season passer rating by a Bills QB in his first year as a starter (99.6 vs Kelly's 101.2 in 1990), and I believe that season counts as the third-highest passer rating in team history (behind Kelly in 1990 and Allen in 2020). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 4 minutes ago, uninja said: He was a Rex Grossman/Trent Dilfer type, he was alright but he wasn't going to win you a game when the chips were down. I'd argue that Shady got us to the playoffs just as much as Tyrod did. Except when he did. Jags and Titans games come to mind immediately. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 14 minutes ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said: Taylor has a 5.7 yards per carry career stat line (same as Allen.)Cam Newton averages 5 even. Vick is 7. So I think that puts him on that list. Ok now do passing 3 6 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uticaclub Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 No one hates Tyrod. He was a mediocre QB that happened to be under the center the year we got enough breaks to make a wild card and do nothing on offense in the playoffs. Anyone that watched those teams knew the offense revolved around Shady 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dat Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 (edited) When your quarterback is more concerned with NOT being the reason we lose than being THE reason we win he does not deserve to be revered. Good guy, but …….. When this comes up I always wish I had saved the cartoon of the wide open receiver waving his arms and Tyrod sweating in fear 😧 Edited June 29, 2023 by Dat 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 He threw a great deep ball, but by the end of his time here, I was done with him. He lost whatever magic he had. Shame he didn't get more games with Sammy, Woods and Clay all on the field. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
without a drought Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 I didn't know people hated him, people just wanted a top franchise qb. Looks like it worked out for everyone, Tyrod may have never seen the field as a starter if not for the Bills. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 16 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: Except when he did. Jags and Titans games come to mind immediately. Was the playoff game we lost 10-3 against the Jags the one you’re talking about? 3 4 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rigotz Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 Nobody hates him. He was welcomed to the Bills and everyone was excited about his success. It was also obvious he wasn't a Franchise QB. He played for 9 years outside of Buffalo and never threw for 1,000 yards in a season for any other team. Buffalo, however, loved him and made the most of his talents. He was fun to watch, but never good enough to be like the guy we currently have ... which is what you're always looking for. I'm glad we didn't settle with Tyrod for another 10 years instead of shooting to be a perennial top 5 offense like we are now. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 I loved Tyrod Taylor. Ask anyone!! 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 He was a great stop gap, but his limits were ever apparent on the field. He helped this franchise take one of the many steps to be who we are today. Great dude. I liked him. But he clearly wasn’t the long term solution 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 6 minutes ago, Gugny said: I loved Tyrod Taylor. Ask anyone!! As much as you and I love Flutie though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 1 minute ago, mrags said: As much as you and I love Flutie though? They’re the same person! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCockSportif Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 Because he wasn't EJM. Otherwise, and let's go back to the playoff game (17 years!!!!!!!), and he was terrible. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 46 minutes ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said: Taylor has a 5.7 yards per carry career stat line (same as Allen.)Cam Newton averages 5 even. Vick is 7. So I think that puts him on that list. Where’s the dual threat? I see just rushing numbers. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 13 minutes ago, Rigotz said: Nobody hates him. He was welcomed to the Bills and everyone was excited about his success. It was also obvious he wasn't a Franchise QB. He played for 9 years outside of Buffalo and never threw for 1,000 yards in a season for any other team. Buffalo, however, loved him and made the most of his talents. He was fun to watch, but never good enough to be like the guy we currently have ... which is what you're always looking for. I'm glad we didn't settle with Tyrod for another 10 years instead of shooting to be a perennial top 5 offense like we are now. The only person who welcomed him, loved him, or was the least bit excited about him was Rex Ryan. Tyrod Taylor’s greatest accomplishment was somehow garnering a 3rd round pick from the idiot Browns. Pure trash. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smward8 Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 Tyrod didn't lose us many games, but he didn't win us many either. He was often too cautious, especially in the passing game. Granted, he didn't have a good set of receivers, but he was reluctant to try to throw to anybody either moving or not wide open. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 1 hour ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said: I never ever understood the hate for Tyrod Taylor. He was a dynamic athlete that defenses had to properly game plan against and played a big role in breaking the 17 year drought. I think he is one of the better dual threats of all time and it’s cool seeing the contrast between TT and Allen as runners. Why is he not a bigger part of Bills’ lore? He got done what a **** load of previous QBs couldn’t. It’s not like Losman, Bledsoe, or Fitz didn’t have good defenses too. So I really don’t wanna hear how the defense alone propelled us there. It was also Tyrod’s legs and low turnover rate + big play ability as well. He did 2 things well and one partly . Protect the ball Run Connect on the occasional deep shot Else he was bad, very bad. The coaching and team managed around him to somehow make the playoffs but his stats, record and skills are far from revere-worthy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 One of the best dual threats ever? Lmao He was a great backup QB and a mediocre starter … who started hot and got more limited as they got film and he played like a Backup … afraid to push the ball into any window … afraid to take a risk … he literally had 14 passing tds his last year here Shady took us to the playoffs 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 Gutless QB's for 1000, Alex.... 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 (edited) 20 hours ago, mrags said: As much as you and I love Flutie though? Not as much as @Rico loved Bledsoe. 😁😁😁 Edited June 30, 2023 by Bill from NYC 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffBillsForLife Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 He took "protect the football" to its logical extreme. Tyrod was incapable of playing to win a football game, he could only play to not lose. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddenboy Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 Risk Averse. So obviously. Tyrod played like (1) he decided in college to be a career NFL backup quarterback. Look like you burn to start but, when you do, do Nothing to eff up the gravy train. Do not hurt my body and do not hurt my stats. Look and talk and act like a leader. (2) he did not love football. This is not to say he was not a man. He had toughness. But he never put the ball in harm's way. I used to joke that, to Tyrod, the football was his newborn baby daughter. He might consider handing it to you. But to throw it ??!! To Tyrod, there's 75 things that can go wrong from throwing, and only one good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 Led the team to two #1 rushing seasons and one top 5 and one top 10 scoring offense. If Rex had not destroyed the defense TT and Shady would have made the playoffs earlier. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 (edited) Because he was not more than average to below average in production/team success as a QB, just look at the playoff game he failed to create a TD in, it ain’t rocket surgery, he wasn’t good. Granted he had crap for a HC that as well destroyed a fully functioning defense during his tenure with the bills, none the less, the above holds. Edited June 29, 2023 by Don Otreply Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said: Taylor has a 5.7 yards per carry career stat line (same as Allen.)Cam Newton averages 5 even. Vick is 7. So I think that puts him on that list. Taylor did that for 3 seasons as a starter for his whole career. 5.7 is Daniel Jones level stuff—does he remind you of Vick and Newton as well? come on. TT tan around a lot because he couldn’t go through progressions and took off as soon as he saw his first option was covered. Edited June 29, 2023 by Mr. WEO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 (edited) Why is he not revered? How about, for starters, because he sucked? He was literally afraid to throw the football, for fear of an INT....which in turn gave him a great statistic in that department (no turnovers), but you gotta throw the ball at some point! His playoff game against Jacksonville with Blake Bortles at the helm in 2018 was THE WORST QUARTERBACKED PLAYOFF GAME I HAVE EVER SEEN. We lost 10-3 in what was a HORRIFIC football game to watch. So overjoyed when we moved on from the guy. It was amazing to see how long he hung in there floating around the league though. It's just incredible how long a bad QB can exist in this league. Seemed like a nice enough guy on a personal level, but who cares about that!? Edited June 29, 2023 by Nextmanup 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Let's Go Buffalo Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 The backfield of Tyrod and Shady were extremely instrumental in getting us into the playoffs that year, and breaking the drought. Most counted us out that year, and so that's what I'll remember most about that regime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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