PBF81 Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Heitz said: That's just facts, Gug, not opinion. 🍞 And this is who *Beasley* thinks is a good leader? Have y'all watched Beasley's actions? He's the guy who's opinion on leadership we should care about? Lastly, it's subjective. For example, just because all of my many, many, high-paid employees think I'M the best leader they've ever had, not everyone might feel that way (though I find that extremely hard to believe since I'm spoken of well in all high-powered business meetings). Edited June 16, 2023 by PBF81 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 That's fine. From all reports and Allen himself, he acts like a big goofball most of the time. He said in Kyle Brandt's Basement that at Jordan Palmer's camp, Joe Burrow would be "all ball" and he'd (Allen) would be trying to make jokes all the time. So even Allen himself said that he is more into football than he ever has been before, so maybe he's changing on the front. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 1 hour ago, Big Turk said: Which begs the question...what does he think Allen needs to do to reach that level or where is Allen lacking in comparison? I don't think this is a dig at Allen at all, Beasley has said many times he thinks Allen can be the best QB in the league and has immense talent and ability. I'm super curious as to what he thinks Allen needs to get better at in this department because all you have heard is how amazing Allen is as a leader since pretty much day 1... Well, he says right there in his tweet "Dak's huddle presence is something that can't be taught", so I guess there is nothing Allen could do to reach that level. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 And it will be interesting to see if Stroud succeeds, considering he bombed on the S2. Hopefully the leadership can overcome it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DabillsDaBillsDaBills Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 Beasley is an idiot that can't tell the difference between "boo" and "bease". Why would I care about what he thinks of Dak's leadership ? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 1 hour ago, Big Turk said: I don't think that's it. He has regularly said he thinks Allen is the most talented QB he has ever played with and the sky is the limit for him, even after he left and before he came back last year. He never said Allen is a bad leader, he simply said Dak is the best leader...I am just interested in trying to find out the areas he thinks Allen needs to get better in to be considered in that category. we differ in opinions on this one.. rare lol. I think Beas has always had an agenda when not playing or on free time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 As a fan I don't give a rats ass what Beasley says anymore. Just go away you walking distraction. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 3 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: As a fan I don't give a rats ass what Beasley says anymore. Just go away you walking distraction. Lol. i agree with this message 1000% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 26 minutes ago, AlfaBill said: Or maybe he’s just saying what he thinks? Josh is not the best at every aspect either. This should go well for you…….. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 I think it's possible that Josh Allen just isn't that fully locked in, stone cold killer, look straight into your soul kind of leader that others might be, at least when it comes to his verbal and interpersonal interactions. Just look at his personality. He's a big kid. He's always joking, pranking, laughing, smiling. Maybe, in terms of his mannerisms and actions in the huddle, he doesn't suddenly become Mr Serious Leader. Before everyone freaks out at what I'm saying...I think Josh Allen leads in a different way, which is by example. I think guys want to follow him into battle and lay their bodies on the line for him because they see that HE will lay his body on the line for THEM. They see him stiff arm a safety or hurdle a linebacker and they all -- to a man -- say "I'll go into battle with that dude any day of the week". Josh is a "dog" (dawg?), as they say, and THAT is the way in which he leads, in my opinion. By example. Like Bease said: People have different strengths. It's fine. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 nobody knows leadership like Cole Beasley 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Gugny said: Translation: “Dallas, will you please, please, please, please, please invite me to minicamp!?!?” Shameless little prick. Actually, my guess would be "Houston, would you please please please invite me to training camp?" Dallas has CeeDee Lamb, Brandin Cooks, Michael Gallup, then last year's 3rd rounder Jalen Tolbert who didn't do much last year but I'm sure they hope for, plus Dalton Schultz at TE and this year's 2nd round TE Luke Schoonmaker Houston has Bobby Trees and who else? More scope for Beasley in Houston. Also, I think working with Dak and Josh, he got used to working with rookies who would listen to what he said and even defer to him. I think Tom Brady wanted receivers who would listen and run the routes as he wanted them to and that didn't go over too well with the Bease-meister. 23 minutes ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said: I think its a bogus comment by Beasel Brain. Hopefully we don't bring him back again. But I do wish sometimes Josh would show more fire and get on players who are not giving 110% effort. I would love to see him yelling at players like Peyton used to do. I think at times he's just too nice a guy. I actually have had the same thought. There's a time for cracking jokes and keeping it light. There's also a time for firing up and getting feisty. Edited June 16, 2023 by Beck Water 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 Beasley would know better than anyone who’s a better leader between Dak and Allen. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 8 minutes ago, BarleyNY said: This should go well for you…….. Why do you say that? Lots of people critique various aspects of Josh's play on the regular. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julian Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 6 minutes ago, Logic said: I think it's possible that Josh Allen just isn't that fully locked in, stone cold killer, look straight into your soul kind of leader that others might be, at least when it comes to his verbal and interpersonal interactions. Just look at his personality. He's a big kid. He's always joking, pranking, laughing, smiling. Maybe, in terms of his mannerisms and actions in the huddle, he doesn't suddenly become Mr Serious Leader. Before everyone freaks out at what I'm saying...I think Josh Allen leads in a different way, which is by example. I think guys want to follow him into battle and lay their bodies on the line for him because they see that HE will lay his body on the line for THEM. They see him stiff arm a safety or hurdle a linebacker and they all -- to a man -- say "I'll go into battle with that dude any day of the week". Josh is a "dog" (dawg?), as they say, and THAT is the way in which he leads, in my opinion. By example. Like Bease said: People have different strengths. It's fine. I think this is exactly right, Allen just needs to continue to be himself and definitely not try to be something he’s not. Being vocal and rah rah is great if that’s who you truly are but imposters will be disrespected, ridiculed and mocked by their peers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 The hate this guy gets for chatting about his football experience and being honest. Guess he should be a robot who has no opinion. I see no disrespect to anyone or anything to be upset over. His career has finished and I don’t mind seeing things about his experiences. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted June 16, 2023 Author Share Posted June 16, 2023 12 minutes ago, Logic said: I think it's possible that Josh Allen just isn't that fully locked in, stone cold killer, look straight into your soul kind of leader that others might be, at least when it comes to his verbal and interpersonal interactions. Just look at his personality. He's a big kid. He's always joking, pranking, laughing, smiling. Maybe, in terms of his mannerisms and actions in the huddle, he doesn't suddenly become Mr Serious Leader. Before everyone freaks out at what I'm saying...I think Josh Allen leads in a different way, which is by example. I think guys want to follow him into battle and lay their bodies on the line for him because they see that HE will lay his body on the line for THEM. They see him stiff arm a safety or hurdle a linebacker and they all -- to a man -- say "I'll go into battle with that dude any day of the week". Josh is a "dog" (dawg?), as they say, and THAT is the way in which he leads, in my opinion. By example. Like Bease said: People have different strengths. It's fine. Meanwhile Dak is rolling around on the ground grabbing his ankle after a normal tackle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wacka Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 Fact: Beasley is on no team's roster right now. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 1 hour ago, NewEra said: Some people here will cause a heated debate about toast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radar Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 11 minutes ago, Rc2catch said: The hate this guy gets for chatting about his football experience and being honest. Guess he should be a robot who has no opinion. I see no disrespect to anyone or anything to be upset over. His career has finished and I don’t mind seeing things about his experiences. It's because he's a jerk.......... Like many other professional athletes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 Just now, Radar said: It's because he's a jerk.......... Like many other professional athletes. He's a jerk because he might have an opinion that differs from yours. The state of today's society. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 1 minute ago, Radar said: It's because he's a jerk.......... Like many other professional athletes. I like my jerk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radar Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 Just now, Lost said: He's a jerk because he might have an opinion that differs from yours. The state of today's society. No. I don't need agreement with my opinion at all...... Just don't be a jerk. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 Just now, Radar said: It's because he's a jerk.......... Like many other professional athletes. Maybe so.. I don’t know the guy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconator Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 So nice to see that today's debate drama started early in the morning for a full day's worth of debate drama. 200 pages by 8 pm EDT on 6/16/2023 easily. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirAndrew Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 I wouldn’t take it that seriously. Bease probably knows he isn’t coming back to Buffalo, but wouldn’t mind being a potential option for Dallas if they need help this season. It makes sense to flatter Dak in that situation, or maybe it is just a genuine opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Firebaugh Kid Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 Dak can't hold Allens jockstrap. Even lost head to head when Allen was a BABY just starting to walk. Next. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 (edited) A couple things...rye toast sucks and im About to drop my W2 Edited June 16, 2023 by Dablitzkrieg 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 1 hour ago, PBF81 said: Come again? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokebball Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 This doesn't shock me. I think Dak's a strong leader. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 3 hours ago, The Jokeman said: I'm shocked he didn't name Brady as the best but maybe their time together time was too short to do so. or his just trying to grab attention. coles feeling bored and lonely… 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 Dak is reportedly a good leader. I don't know why people are upset by this. I think there are people on this board with better leadership skills than Allen. That's not a knock on Josh. But leadership doesn't seem to be Allen's forte. He's a strong-armed talented passer, a good runner, a fierce competitor, and an overall nice guy. But nothing I've seen or heard makes me think he excels as a leader. Then again, my opinion is based on observations from afar. I've never been in the huddle or locker room with Josh. But Beas has. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Hooks Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 Who cares? Can we please ignore this guy? You’re just giving him the attention he so desperately wants. Let him fade into obscurity. Dude is a malcontent. He knew what he was doing when he posted this, he knew how it would be taken by Bills fans, and fans gobble it up hook, line, and sinker. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 Why is this a thing? Leadership is a subjective quality. Not everyone appreciates or meshes with the same type of leader. Is it a big deal that Cole may have preferred Dak’s style? In a word….nope! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T&C Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 4 hours ago, Big Turk said: I'm super curious as to what he thinks Allen needs to get better at in this department Why don't you just ask him with a tweet? No one here knows what someone else thinks about being in the huddle with both of these guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boater Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 From Wikipedia regarding the phenomena known as Narcissistic Injury: Quote When a narcissist's feelings are hurt, they are likely to react with hostility and tend to hold grudges. Beasley had a grudge against the Bills. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 Whatever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastport bills Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 3 hours ago, gobills404 said: He did go away. He’s not on the team. All Bills fans have to do is unfollow him on twitter and stop posting about him if they don’t wanna hear from him. When I say go away, I mean stop interjecting yourself into Bills business. You had your time here and we appreciate your efforts, now find yourself another job and wish your ex-teammates good luck. Stop comparing our players to others and worry about the back end of your career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeFrommStateFarm Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 4 hours ago, Sierra Foothills said: The answer lies herein... To me his fundamentals are completely wrong. Yes you want to move the right hip forward, then the back and shoulder should come forward, the arm last. Maybe this is why his accuracy is so bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobills404 Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Eastport bills said: When I say go away, I mean stop interjecting yourself into Bills business. You had your time here and we appreciate your efforts, now find yourself another job and wish your ex-teammates good luck. Stop comparing our players to others and worry about the back end of your career. How is he interjecting? By having an opinion about someone who doesn’t play for the Bills? He didn’t mention Josh or the Bills at all until a butthurt fan replied to him, and then all he did was give Josh a compliment as well. Edited June 16, 2023 by gobills404 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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