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RD 5, Pick 150: WR Justin Shorter, Florida

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Lmao! A reach in the 5th round 

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How’s a 5th round pick a reach? People complain just to complain! 

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He’s our new Duke Williams. 

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I know next to nothing about college prospects, after reading is bio  and history, seems like a completely wasted pick. 
I’m seeing conflicting info. I’ve read there’s a history of drops (the last thing the Bills need), but as a write this, the Bills official website comes on saying he has ‘reliable hands’ with only a single drop in 114 targets. 

Additionally, it looks like he’s slow off of the line. 
I have little faith he’ll amount to much in the NFL.  Hopeful the Bills personnel department got it right. 

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1 minute ago, MrEpsYtown said:

I think this draft is showing a commitment to improving their red zone offense. Between Kincaid, a monster sized guard and a monster sized wideout? That plays imo. 


That’s what I was thinking.  Goaline situations, I would like to punch it in with a regular RB handoff than having to to use Allen all the time.

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8 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

He likely won’t make the 53. But could a position switch be in the cards???  There could be ability with a year on PS to transition into a pass catching Flex TE. 

To replace Q Morris ? Who blocks more than not ?
Lets see what he looks like though camp etc.
Maybe he is the perfect PS guy we can all cheer for ?  :)
But worth a shot for sure

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Just now, MrEpsYtown said:

I think this draft is showing a commitment to improving their red zone offense. Between Kincaid, a monster sized guard and a monster sized wideout? That plays imo. 

My theme leading up to the draft and efforts to prognasticate the draft, have revolved around the concept that the Bills weakest spot on offense is in the red zone.  ESPN is on top of depth charts.  Will the Bills start 6 WRs?

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8 minutes ago, jaybills said:

Gabe is better than this dude. Shorter seems to catch a lot of balls with his body. 

 

But Gabe is about to be priced out and off our team after this season, regardless of who is better. Hopefully Shorter can develop. He has a good WR room around him.

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27 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said:

Who knows what a reach is really? A lot of people here were mocking antonio johnson in the first round and he’s still there. So none of us have any idea what teams boards look like. I thought he’d go later based on what the reports were saying, but the reports were wrong I guess. 

I agree.  How many of the guys drafted today will make our team?  Maybe two?  Nothing is a reach right now.  It’s all a crapshoot.  And the perfect time to take a shot on someone who has an unusual talent or trait. 

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2 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said:

This late in a weaker draft taking a shot on a former 5 star recruit makes sense imo. Boom or bust is totally fine here.

This.  Take a flier on voorhees with the bonus pick we picked up if he’s still there.  Perfect time to take a swing or to bank or for next year. 

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Based on his size, he could have value too on getting some reps on running plays for his potential as a WR blocker and still be able to go out on a play action play as well.  Something that could be valuable again on key down and shorts and red zone plays.  

 

One thing we lacked last year was size and physicality.  And when you factor in the kind of bad weather games we can see at home later in the season, getting a guy on the field who can both be physical as a receiver or a blocker could get him some snaps this year if he makes the team.  

 

If he has ST value, he should make this roster and might even get some snaps in those big packages.  

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1 hour ago, Srw1525 said:

He’s a reach. Has a history though of dropping balls. Time will tell.

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per Brugler and the Beast (extract from the Athletic)

 

110 career reception with 6 drops - none this season - missed 3 games due to hamstring injury and opted-out of bowl game, all of which pissed the Florida fans off so that ain't right////

 

Led team in receptions in 2022 (but not 2023)...yards per reception improved over each of his seasons...

 

STRENGTHS: Impressive size/speed athlete … has the arm length that makes some offensive tackles jealous … linear speed to close cushion and force cornerbacks to respect his acceleration … dangerous in the deep third of the field … tracks the ball naturally and adjusts in flight to high-point the football … stabs with focus away from his body (only one registered drop over the 114 combined targets his junior and senior seasons) … ranked No. 2 in the SEC in yards per reception in 2022 (behind only his teammate Ryan Pearsall) … physical stature helps him overwhelm receivers as a blocker … has experience as a gunner on special teams.

 

WEAKNESSES: Tightly wound, and some of the branches of his route tree are stiffer than others … leggy in and out of breaks, causing him to linger or round off his patterns … comes off the line tall and gives defenders a large target to press … doesn’t consistently use his body to shield or frame defenders downfield … has never been known as a YAC threat over his career … clear your schedule if trying to find forced missed tackles on his tape … disappointing career production and never reached 600 yards receiving in a single season in his five years in college.

 

SUMMARY: A two-year starter at Florida, Shorter was the X receiver in head coach Billy Napier’s offense. One look at him and there is no mystery why he had more stars as a high school recruit than a clear-night sky, but he struggled to find his footing at Penn State and was more of a splashy weapon over his three years at Florida. Shorter has striking speed for his size and is at his best when he can stack coverage and create a vertical runway (75.9 percent of his 2022 catches resulted in a first down or touchdown). Though he provides a large strike zone for his quarterback, his contested catch success should be higher with his size advantage. Overall, Shorter is a one-speed runner with predictable route running, but his height/weight/speed mix is uncommon, and his ball-winning potential will tantalize NFL teams. His fit as a back-end-of-the-roster receiver makes him worth the risk

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