TheyCallMeAndy Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 Isaiah who? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 2 minutes ago, dreadlox said: That evaluation says he is better at long developing deep routes, not much of an underneath threat. Ken Dorsey is gonna love him! This fits what I see. Needs to gear down to get in and out of breaks or routes get really rounded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderstealer Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 1 minute ago, dreadlox said: That evaluation says he is better at long developing deep routes, not much of an underneath threat. Ken Dorsey is gonna love him! Special Teams too with his size 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 6 minutes ago, Srw1525 said: He’s a reach. Has a history though of dropping balls. Time will tell. Perfect replacement for Gabe then…😉 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 Guy is absolutely yoked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vickveto Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 Should have taken Palmer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 I think I read teams viewed Shorter as potentially converting him to a TE. He looks like, as of now, he’d make the team as outside depth. Gabe Davis body type and found a way to win deep at Florida despite not being a burner… again, similarly to Gabe. Looks like a physical freak and was an elite recruit, but hasn’t put it together. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen2D̶i̶g̶g̶s̶TBD Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 Duke Williams 2.0 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 We found our new MLB 8 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psuscott16 Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 Sounds like they are hoping to coach him up on his route running and maximize his physical attributes. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yawning Frog Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 1 minute ago, pigpen65 said: Don't know anytime about the player but like the position. They have 3 more picks. Should be 3 more recievers 2 more picks, they don’t have a 7th? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 1 minute ago, dave mcbride said: https://247sports.com/player/justin-shorter-84829/ He was a five-star recruit. Yeah that was my first reaction. One of a higher than normal number of former 5 stars(35) in this class that gets so little love. Also another player who may address the lack of size that I think showed up in the bad weather of that playoff loss. Hard to be incredibly accurate outside the hashes in that stadium late in the year. Bigger players in the passing game were a priority, IMO. And a potential Gabe Davis replacement. I don't think he deserved the selection over what was left on the board at other positions but it's easy to see why. This wasn't a BPA, IMO........this was another clear response to a perceived "short" on their current roster. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 2 minutes ago, pigpen65 said: Don't know anything about the player but like the position. They have 3 more picks. Should be 3 more recievers Two more picks in the sixth as of now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fixxxer Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 Out with the smurfs, in with Shorter.. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 There were a lot of former 5 star recruits in this class that never lived up to their potential in college. Bills got one of them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 He looks huge in the highlights. I mean, why not? It's the 5th round. Seems to have all of the physical attributes a WR needs. Maybe some good coaching will unleash some potential here. 3 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconator Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 Just now, TheyCallMeAndy said: 2 more picks, they don’t have a 7th? Traded down with Washington, picked up an extra 6th 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 Team captain for Florida as well. I like the pick. Giving Allen weapons 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
par73 Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 He was a bust with two major college programs. May have been available as a FA. This after the baffling Williams pick. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 2 minutes ago, Process said: We found our new MLB hmmm yup. Worth the pick already 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 4.55 at 6’5” 230 isn’t bad at all 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 Just now, Chaos said: College production last year among FBS WRS, as measured by PFF Big, Strong can jump. Our Two-Way Hail Mary Specialist 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
First Round Bust Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 7 minutes ago, streetkings01 said: How’s a 5th round pick a reach? People complain just to complain! I posted this on my match.com profile....I yell at clouds during commercials while binge watching Fox News 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 3 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Big Body with nice hands smooth in transitions and smooth running. Gears down going into breaks and takes a bit coming out of them. Massive Questions on ability to separate. contested catch and 50/50 ball WR. He wins those most times. Decent speed for size. plays to his size. Will use his body to shield defenders good at finding holes in Zones my grade was 6th rounder with biggest thing I have written alot can he separate. questions. think a more athletes Kumerow here. I have better six speed candidates on my list. Where did you read that? Everything I read is that he drops a lot of balls and makes body catches. In fact if you look at those highlights earlier in the thread he never highpoints the ball. He lets it come into his body. Can't teach size though But hopefully you can teach him how to catch. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Fixxxer said: Out with the smurfs, in with Shorter.. I don’t hate this….and I usually hate everything. I never liked the idea of smurfs with Josh’s skill set. There’s no room for error throwing to smurfs. Edited April 29, 2023 by Governor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaggersEOD Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 6 minutes ago, HappyDays said: Big physical outside WR that has trouble separating. I see similarly profiled players get drafted sooner than this so I'm fine with the value. Edit: Ignore that first clip of Kincaid, I can't find a way to remove it for some reason. This says he has GREAT hands. 5.5% drop rate (good 🤷♂️) but fans who watch the Gators are saying he drops a lot. Which is correct? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 This is what you want your team doing. Draft elite traits in late rounds. ELITE Size and Speed WR his weaknesses can be coaches out. My only question is can enough route running coaching give him the tools not to gear down and lose the Seperation he did gain. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralonzo Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 1 minute ago, Chaos said: Those shuttle and 3-cone scores aren't that much better than the actual cones. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillzFreak Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 1 minute ago, par73 said: He was a bust with two major college programs. May have been available as a FA. This after the baffling Williams pick. And you actually took the time to type this... that's more baffling then any of the Bills picks lol 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ManRaid Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 2 minutes ago, Bermuda Triangle said: But the draft boards, and intensive scouting and film study, of wannabe draftniks, say otherwise! Well good thing I'm a draft noob who doesn't follow what those wannabes say heh. NFL.com has him graded as a "good backup with the potential to be a starter", and he was the top receiver prospect in the nation coming out of high school. From the sounds of it, would have been a day 1 or 2 pick had his college career and development not been hampered by injuries. Sounds like a good prospect (as in NOT a reach) to develop from the 5th round. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sven233 Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 Jonah Bronstein @lebronstein · 5m #Bills 5th-round draft pick Justin Shorter was the No. 1-rated WR in the 2018 recruiting class, ahead of Amon-Ra St. Brown, Jaylen Waddle & Ja’Marr Chase There's obviously talent there but he hasn't lived up to expectations for whatever reason. Up to the Bills to pull it out of him. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharky7337 Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 We are clearly offensively going for size to transition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
In Summary Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 Separation is more important than size, but for a 5th round guy who will get a year of NFL coaching before being asked to do much...I'm ok with this. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 2 minutes ago, par73 said: He was a bust with two major college programs. May have been available as a FA. This after the baffling Williams pick. I’m sorry… have you seen the picture above? Well worth taking a chance on in the 5th as 5 star #1 WR recruit in 2018 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigvinny Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 1 minute ago, Ethan in Cleveland said: Where did you read that? Everything I read is that he drops a lot of balls and makes body catches. In fact if you look at those highlights earlier in the thread he never highpoints the ball. He lets it come into his body. Can't teach size though But hopefully you can teach him how to catch. Great hands 5.5% drop rate (6 drops on 177 targets) 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 1 minute ago, Ethan in Cleveland said: Where did you read that? Everything I read is that he drops a lot of balls and makes body catches. In fact if you look at those highlights earlier in the thread he never highpoints the ball. He lets it come into his body. Can't teach size though But hopefully you can teach him how to catch. My own analysis of watching him in draft prep. That is where I read it from. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsguy Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 10 minutes ago, McBean said: Meh My thoughts exactly. Meh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrbojanglezs Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 With both Davis and Shorter Josh is going to have to stand in the pocket for 5 seconds 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 5 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said: Anybody going to try and justify this pick as BPA? Late rounds aren’t really an area where BPA should be argued. At this point you’re basically drafting guys with specific traits that fit what you want to do. 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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