Buffalo_Stampede Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, McBean said: absolutely you do this. White is a stud. Twice the linebacker Edmunds is. Tampa fans think he sucks. Bills fans think he’s great. Lol. Perception is not reality. Edited April 11, 2023 by Buffalo_Stampede 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paup 1995MVP Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 4 hours ago, nucci said: at the right price, don't overpay, team friendly deal as long as he has culture and is a process guy........right? What does that even mean, a "process guy"? The only process I am concerned about is finally winning a Super Bowl. This offseason has been about as blah as can be. No major moves to speak of. I think Beane has gotten gun shy with 4 crap years of drafting. And so so results with our free agent acquisitions. I think the Hamlin situation and the wupping put on us by the Bengals knocked the organization off its axis a bit. Need a strong draft to get us headed back on a Super Bowl trajectory. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 2 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: Thats what she said She really said "Please stop. It's unhealthy for me to be this erect so early in the day"? Weird.... So how was the rest of your time in Bangkok? Do anything wholesome? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 38 minutes ago, McBean said: absolutely you do this. White is a stud. Twice the linebacker Edmunds is. Tremaine edmunds is 15 years old. White 42. Why go older? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 Devin White is Tampas Maine savage. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOboy Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 42 minutes ago, Yantha said: Yeah the title needs a question mark...... But in another article regarding the Bucs / Bills... They suggest that a trade for Mike Evans is part of that mix. FOR GABE DAVIS! https://www.sportskeeda.com/nfl/nfl-trade-rumors-josh-allen-s-buffalo-bills-tipped-land-tom-brady-s-former-teammate Would you trade Gabe Davis (and pick/s) for Mike Evans and Devin White? While trading Davis+ for Evans & White is incredibly appealing, it doesn’t sound like this guy has any sources or anything to report. He’s simply suggesting it like any of us could. Furthermore, it would take some incredible cap gymnastics to make it happen. So incredibly unlikely. All that said, it would be awesome to add that level of talent (with championship experience). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 4 hours ago, BillsVet said: I'm interested in hearing from those advocating about a traditional 0 tech or another 1T how the defense will push the pocket. Because any decent QB facing zero pressure up the middle will have no fear stepping up and making throws downfield. In general I’m good with having a player like that on the roster, but as more of a role player. Someone to shore up the run game when we are seeing a lot of it due to the opponent’s style, poor weather or when we’re down late and our opponent is trying to close out the game. Roster space has to be considered though. The Bills typically keep 5 DTs on the roster and currently have the following eight under contract for this season: Jones, Phillips, Oliver, Settle, Ankou, Vickers, Bryant and Broughton. I don’t see five DTs there that I love. Adding one that could be paired with Jones to stop the run when needed would be welcome. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nosejob Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 (edited) 5 hours ago, The Jokeman said: The Ravens gave up a 2nd and a 5th in this year's draft for Smith. A heavy price for the Bills IMO and I don't think we have the cap space to keep White next year and beyond unless re-work more contracts. Plus am scare of his small size (6-0 237) as the Bucs protect him with Vita Veta. And didn't the Ravens give Smith 100mil. deal? I'd rather send a 3rd in 2024 for Patrick Queen. Edited April 11, 2023 by nosejob 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 1 hour ago, Paup 1995MVP said: What does that even mean, a "process guy"? The only process I am concerned about is finally winning a Super Bowl. This offseason has been about as blah as can be. No major moves to speak of. I think Beane has gotten gun shy with 4 crap years of drafting. And so so results with our free agent acquisitions. I think the Hamlin situation and the wupping put on us by the Bengals knocked the organization off its axis a bit. Need a strong draft to get us headed back on a Super Bowl trajectory. it was sarcasm. Those are the comments everyone uses when a potential signing could happen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 Small detail here.... We are broke 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionallyUnstable Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 1 hour ago, McBean said: absolutely you do this. White is a stud. Twice the linebacker Edmunds is. Too small for McD’s liking…although he does rush the passer well, something Edmunds never did. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 1 hour ago, McBean said: absolutely you do this. White is a stud. Twice the linebacker Edmunds is. He has ZERO HEART 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBeaneBandit Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 1 hour ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Tampa fans think he sucks. Bills fans think he’s great. Lol. Perception is not reality. We've watched him play. Tampa fans are wrong, we are right. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 2 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Tampa fans think he sucks. Bills fans think he’s great. Lol. Perception is not reality. How did he make the Pro Bowl. Stuffing the ballot box ? Bills should draft one. All the ones I liked are gone Like Wagner at 9m or whatever cheap it was and we still should have drafted one even after FA was fun times 28 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: He has ZERO HEART Perhaps he could visit the Wizard ? Does wonders i have read. Says the Tin Man 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harmonkillebrew Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 6 hours ago, bills6969 said: White is better than Edmunds No question. trade Oliver for him and sign him to an extension to minimize cap hit this year. use the savings from Oliver's per year to sign a DT and/or draft one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 23 minutes ago, harmonkillebrew said: No question. trade Oliver for him and sign him to an extension to minimize cap hit this year. use the savings from Oliver's per year to sign a DT and/or draft one. Just do it even if TB doesnt want him... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 7 hours ago, BillsVet said: I'm interested in hearing from those advocating about a traditional 0 tech or another 1T how the defense will push the pocket. Because any decent QB facing zero pressure up the middle will have no fear stepping up and making throws downfield. I cant speak to the line play you're referencing, I'm interested too... but I know if we're in 4-3 a bit more it's easier to generate that pressure with blitzing. A roll I think Bernard would feel more natural with Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 I'm surprised the mods have let this title stand for so long. So incredibly misleading. It should just say "Devin White requests Trade". I saw this post and thought we had traded for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 3 hours ago, McBean said: absolutely you do this. White is a stud. Twice the linebacker Edmunds is. This isn’t remotely true. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 I don't get it. Let Edmunds go, then trade for White, giving up assets and paying him Edmunds money. Sounds like a losing formula to me. 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsBlue Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 7 hours ago, FireChans said: Is Beane asleep at the wheel? Start calling! I'd rather they start Dodson and spend money on the offense, particularly a top tier right tackle or guard or wr 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 28 minutes ago, Freddie's Dead said: I don't get it. Let Edmunds go, then trade for White, giving up assets and paying him Edmunds money. Sounds like a losing formula to me. Bears formula but worse. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perk71 Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 What did they give up for him? 😜 Go Bills!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 1 hour ago, Freddie's Dead said: I don't get it. Let Edmunds go, then trade for White, giving up assets and paying him Edmunds money. Sounds like a losing formula to me. Merely entertaining this hypothetical annoys me. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 11 hours ago, FireChans said: Is Beane asleep at the wheel? Start calling! Silly. $11M this year and if it's not one and done then there'd be an awful lot more after that with a new contract. Very good player of course, but we're not in a position to do that with any degree of fiscal care. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 7 hours ago, Yantha said: Yeah the title needs a question mark...... But in another article regarding the Bucs / Bills... They suggest that a trade for Mike Evans is part of that mix. FOR GABE DAVIS! https://www.sportskeeda.com/nfl/nfl-trade-rumors-josh-allen-s-buffalo-bills-tipped-land-tom-brady-s-former-teammate Would you trade Gabe Davis (and pick/s) for Mike Evans and Devin White? Again, silly article. So, Davis' $2.742M for a total of $24M for the two Bucs, with Evans' $13M this year and White's $11M, even assuming we don't renew either guy costing us even more money? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 I think White is a good player but not sure he fits the defense. He is a downhill, aggressive, blitzing specialist. Tampa use him on run blitzes and pass rush blitzes a lot. That is his strongest suit. That isn't this defense (I know some fans have played Madden and want us to blitz every play and so would love it). He has struggled in coverage. Unless the Bills are massively re-casting their D he is not the answer. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 5 hours ago, Thurman#1 said: Silly. $11M this year and if it's not one and done then there'd be an awful lot more after that with a new contract. Very good player of course, but we're not in a position to do that with any degree of fiscal care. PFF gave him a 45.5 grade last year and 36.2 in 2021 In contrast, Edmunds had a 79 grade last year and 51 in 2021 Always thought he was a very good player too but not according to pff, which you obviously have to take with a grain of salt but still somewhat surprising Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 18 hours ago, FireChans said: Is Beane asleep at the wheel? Start calling! I think not !! So Beane should make a trade for this player lose draft capital this year & have him play 1 season for the Bills then he will be looking for the same kind of money & be in the same position he is in this year from losing Edmunds ?? Asleep at the wheel sorry but i think not it's kind of like the saying of fool me once shame on you fool me twice shame on me i'm thinking it's better to get a player with upside out of the draft & have him on a rookie contract for 4 to 5 years rather than 1 & be faced with another player wanting hug money . But that's just me . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yawning Frog Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 not going to happen.  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted April 12, 2023 Author Share Posted April 12, 2023 25 minutes ago, T master said: I think not !! So Beane should make a trade for this player lose draft capital this year & have him play 1 season for the Bills then he will be looking for the same kind of money & be in the same position he is in this year from losing Edmunds ?? Asleep at the wheel sorry but i think not it's kind of like the saying of fool me once shame on you fool me twice shame on me i'm thinking it's better to get a player with upside out of the draft & have him on a rookie contract for 4 to 5 years rather than 1 & be faced with another player wanting hug money . But that's just me . I don’t know what you charge, but hug money for me is pretty cheap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 19 hours ago, Virgil said: Please stop. It's unhealthy for me to be this erect so early in the day Maybe for you married men. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 I’d give a 4th or 5th round pick for him and sign to long term contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 People wanted Tremaine gone but want to replace him with Devin White? White is in the last year of his contract so you’d have to pay him. Not to mention you’d hate him for the same reasons you hated Tremaine. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nosejob Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 (edited) 5 hours ago, GunnerBill said: I think White is a good player but not sure he fits the defense. He is a downhill, aggressive, blitzing specialist. Tampa use him on run blitzes and pass rush blitzes a lot. That is his strongest suit. That isn't this defense (I know some fans have played Madden and want us to blitz every play and so would love it). He has struggled in coverage. Unless the Bills are massively re-casting their D he is not the answer. That's Exactly what we need! Perfect for McD's new rabid defense. A 4-3 base that can and will rush a LB from any and every spot at will. That essentially gives us a 5 man line all the time. Elam and White can play man with P&H in the back. EDIT: Not saying that I would trade for and pay him. Edited April 12, 2023 by nosejob 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 50 minutes ago, wppete said: I’d give a 4th or 5th round pick for him and sign to long term contract. I’d sign him to a long term 5 years 5M contract. Can’t pay him until he shows he can cover 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 1 hour ago, Bangarang said: People wanted Tremaine gone but want to replace him with Devin White? White is in the last year of his contract so you’d have to pay him. Not to mention you’d hate him for the same reasons you hated Tremaine. But it’s the first new girl you date after a breakup. You can’t admit you miss your ex, and it’s new & different, but deep down, you know this new one sucks too. 15 minutes ago, NewEra said: I’d sign him to a long term 5 years 5M contract. Can’t pay him until he shows he can cover There’s zero chance he would agree to that deal. 4 hours ago, JerseyBills said: PFF gave him a 45.5 grade last year and 36.2 in 2021 In contrast, Edmunds had a 79 grade last year and 51 in 2021 Always thought he was a very good player too but not according to pff, which you obviously have to take with a grain of salt but still somewhat surprising Edmunds is a much better player that a bunch of bills fans want to give him credit for. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 39 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: But it’s the first new girl you date after a breakup. You can’t admit you miss your ex, and it’s new & different, but deep down, you know this new one sucks too. There’s zero chance he would agree to that deal. Edmunds is a much better player that a bunch of bills fans want to give him credit for. Yes….that was my point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L Ron Burgundy Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 Please! F yes. Especially since you should be able to get him cheap now. Need to take advantage of these types of situations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 On 4/11/2023 at 2:13 PM, BillsVet said: I'm interested in hearing from those advocating about a traditional 0 tech or another 1T how the defense will push the pocket. Because any decent QB facing zero pressure up the middle will have no fear stepping up and making throws downfield. I totally agree, I'd rather have an A. Donald than a space eater. But DTs who can provide consistent pressure seem to be nearly nonexistent these days, and a space eating DT allows a LB to provide a rush, and/or take a blocker away from a DE like Miller and Groot, and/or push the blocker into the pocket. There are a few "athletic" space eaters that appear to be available later in the draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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