Tipster19 Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 He was a great soldier last year when we needed defensive help the most. He wants to be here and it would help keep continuity on the DL imo. I’m surprise this hasn’t happened yet, it looks like the money is the issue right now but with a little bit of effort this should get done fairly easily. A 1 year contract like Jordan Phillips’, would make the most sense at this time, you know with the salary restrictions that the Bills are currently facing. I’d also like to see this thread become a petition to help make this cause happen but if anybody disagrees then I’d like to know the reason(s) why, everybody has a right to their opinion so please let’s hear the pros and cons. Bring back Shaq! 2 3 7 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 I suspect you will see this right after the draft 2 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichRiderBills Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 I'd take him back at the right price, but not sure of value. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 5 minutes ago, Tipster19 said: He was a great soldier last year when we needed defensive help the most. He wants to be here and it would help keep continuity on the DL imo. I’m surprise this hasn’t happened yet, it looks like the money is the issue right now but with a little bit of effort this should get done fairly easily. A 1 year contract like Jordan Phillips’, would make the most sense at this time, you know with the salary restrictions that the Bills are currently facing. I’d also like to see this thread become a petition to help make this cause happen but if anybody disagrees then I’d like to know the reason(s) why, everybody has a right to their opinion so please let’s hear the pros and cons. Bring back Shaq! I'm sure that they would if not for salary cap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 Bring him back, he is a good rotational player. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airseven Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 I was surprised by Lawson last season. He still has some fire left. Would’ve preferred to bring him back instead of Phillips. 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBeaneBandit Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 8 minutes ago, Airseven said: I was surprised by Lawson last season. He still has some fire left. Would’ve preferred to bring him back instead of Phillips. Although I'd only offer slightly above league minimum, I too would have preferred him back instead of Phillips, who is a complete sieve in run defense, and only flashes once in a blue moon with the pass rush. But hey he pumps up the drunks in the stadium 👍 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 He’ll get same contract he got last year if not less. If he wants more no thanks 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 He absolutely should be resigned 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted April 3, 2023 Share Posted April 3, 2023 Nothing against Shaq as he played solid, but if we bring him back we are literally running it back with the same D line as last year that wasn’t good enough in the first place. Add on Von coming off of an acl tear. 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted April 3, 2023 Share Posted April 3, 2023 Loved how he played last year. He & just about everyone were even better when Miller was in the line-up. I really think that w/ McD calling plays, our D can be a true #1, and totally fierce. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterStrategist Posted April 3, 2023 Share Posted April 3, 2023 3 hours ago, Airseven said: I was surprised by Lawson last season. He still has some fire left. Would’ve preferred to bring him back instead of Phillips. Deep draft at def end this yr.... Shaq will be signed back if we don't land a mid to late guy. Phillips brings a nice rush in the middle. He should be used in pass rush situations only, at this point of his career. Hoping we land another big 1 technique in the draft, that can be primarily used on early downs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyCat Posted April 3, 2023 Share Posted April 3, 2023 Look out for Kingsley Jonathan in the mix of DE's for the Bills. He's the undrafted kid from Syracuse and has major quickness off the ball. I believe he is signed for this season and the next. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharky7337 Posted April 3, 2023 Share Posted April 3, 2023 You his agent? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeFrommStateFarm Posted April 3, 2023 Share Posted April 3, 2023 Strange poyer was signed before Lawson 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted April 3, 2023 Share Posted April 3, 2023 3 hours ago, Airseven said: I was surprised by Lawson last season. He still has some fire left. Would’ve preferred to bring him back instead of Phillips. Nothing in the Phillips deal would preclude us from take bringing back shaq 17 minutes ago, HappyCat said: Look out for Kingsley Jonathan in the mix of DE's for the Bills. He's the undrafted kid from Syracuse and has major quickness off the ball. I believe he is signed for this season and the next. I would definitely like to see him get more time in the limited time he got last year he looked really good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyCat Posted April 3, 2023 Share Posted April 3, 2023 12 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: Nothing in the Phillips deal would preclude us from take bringing back shaq I would definitely like to see him get more time in the limited time he got last year he looked really good He did have an excellent game vs. the Bears in the brief time he played. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted April 3, 2023 Share Posted April 3, 2023 4 hours ago, Tipster19 said: He was a great soldier last year when we needed defensive help the most. He wants to be here and it would help keep continuity on the DL imo. I’m surprise this hasn’t happened yet, it looks like the money is the issue right now but with a little bit of effort this should get done fairly easily. A 1 year contract like Jordan Phillips’, would make the most sense at this time, you know with the salary restrictions that the Bills are currently facing. I’d also like to see this thread become a petition to help make this cause happen but if anybody disagrees then I’d like to know the reason(s) why, everybody has a right to their opinion so please let’s hear the pros and cons. Bring back Shaq! There is a misconception that he was good last season........he had the same kind of modest impact that he had in 2017 and 2018 when he also played around 450-475 snaps and produced similarly. The front office and fans alike were extremely disappointed in that version of Shaq and he had his 5th year option declined. He is quite simply a league minimum player at this point. Jordan Phillips should have been a league minimum only signing as well. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted April 3, 2023 Share Posted April 3, 2023 1 hour ago, BillsFan130 said: Nothing against Shaq as he played solid, but if we bring him back we are literally running it back with the same D line as last year that wasn’t good enough in the first place. Add on Von coming off of an acl tear. In fairness, your not getting anything better for less, or likely even more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalosouth Posted April 3, 2023 Share Posted April 3, 2023 I'd like to see Groot come into form and develope into a complete player that could ease the rotation of the line. Shaq can definitely set the edge better. We need somebody on the line that is too good to take out 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted April 3, 2023 Share Posted April 3, 2023 16 minutes ago, mrags said: In fairness, your not getting anything better for less, or likely even more. True. Again, nothing against Shaq. Just more of the makeup of the d line and running it back . Like the signing of J Phillips back didn’t make a lot of sense IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tipster19 Posted April 3, 2023 Author Share Posted April 3, 2023 2 minutes ago, BillsFan130 said: Like the signing of J Phillips back didn’t make a lot of sense IMO I find this interesting. I take it that you’re not a fan of Phillips? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted April 3, 2023 Share Posted April 3, 2023 1 minute ago, Tipster19 said: I find this interesting. I take it that you’re not a fan of Phillips? I like him when he’s healthy, although I will say he’s a streaky player. But 3 years in a row he has shown he can’t stay healthy and he just turned 31. Not a guy you can count on IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted April 3, 2023 Share Posted April 3, 2023 Players like Lawson are not unique. Clamor for him is simply feel good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted April 3, 2023 Share Posted April 3, 2023 14 minutes ago, BillsFan130 said: True. Again, nothing against Shaq. Just more of the makeup of the d line and running it back . Like the signing of J Phillips back didn’t make a lot of sense IMO When JP is healthy he’s a positive for the Dline. And hate to break it to you, but Shaq was probably our 3rd best DE last year behind Von and then Rous. If we can get him back on a girly friendly deal it’s worth it. Hoping we can get him for similar to what JP got. But he likely wants more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted April 3, 2023 Share Posted April 3, 2023 I would certainly like to see us bring him back. There were times last here where he was arguably playing maybe the best on the whole DL. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted April 3, 2023 Share Posted April 3, 2023 (edited) 5 hours ago, CaptnCoke11 said: He’ll get same contract he got last year if not less. If he wants more no thanks I will be shocked if he doesn't re-sign for the same 1.1M as last year. He'll never be a pass rusher but he does supply edge support. This team still needs a young dynamic pass rusher and unfortunately Groot is not that guy. Edited April 3, 2023 by LABILLBACKER Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted April 3, 2023 Share Posted April 3, 2023 lawson made $1.2 mil last yr anything between $1.2 - 1.9 for 2023 is a no brainer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurlyBurly51 Posted April 3, 2023 Share Posted April 3, 2023 Shaq loves it here, but it appears it may be unrequited. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted April 3, 2023 Share Posted April 3, 2023 Seems as though Beane wanted to get him back league minimum again and Shaq was hoping for more this time around. Time will tell if he gets any other offers. https://heavy.com/sports/buffalo-bills/bills-shaq-lawson-subtle-shade-brandon-beane/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tipster19 Posted April 3, 2023 Author Share Posted April 3, 2023 1 hour ago, BillsFan130 said: I like him when he’s healthy, although I will say he’s a streaky player. But 3 years in a row he has shown he can’t stay healthy and he just turned 31. Not a guy you can count on IMO What I like about Phillips and with Shaq as well is that they pay to the crowd. They both want and love to be a Bill and play with passion imo. One never really hears anything quotable or memorable from say someone like Oliver, Groot etc etc. I will say that they both give great effort, regardless of the results. I like that about both of them, they make a good tandem. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted April 3, 2023 Share Posted April 3, 2023 10 hours ago, Tipster19 said: He was a great soldier last year when we needed defensive help the most. He wants to be here and it would help keep continuity on the DL imo. I’m surprise this hasn’t happened yet, it looks like the money is the issue right now but with a little bit of effort this should get done fairly easily. A 1 year contract like Jordan Phillips’, would make the most sense at this time, you know with the salary restrictions that the Bills are currently facing. I’d also like to see this thread become a petition to help make this cause happen but if anybody disagrees then I’d like to know the reason(s) why, everybody has a right to their opinion so please let’s hear the pros and cons. Bring back Shaq! I like Shaq and always thought he was under appreciated around here. I’d be happy to have him back. I would offer him his market value. Hopefully that will get it done. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted April 3, 2023 Share Posted April 3, 2023 6 hours ago, mrags said: When JP is healthy he’s a positive for the Dline. And hate to break it to you, but Shaq was probably our 3rd best DE last year behind Von and then Rous. If we can get him back on a girly friendly deal it’s worth it. Hoping we can get him for similar to what JP got. But he likely wants more. Please don’t use initials. Your use of JP gave me a Losman flashback and it wasn’t enjoyable. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted April 3, 2023 Share Posted April 3, 2023 3 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said: I like Shaq and always thought he was under appreciated around here. I’d be happy to have him back. I would offer him his market value. Hopefully that will get it done. Under appreciated by this coaching staff too. PED Murphy started for three years and did nothing while Lawson was at least solid. Would love to see them trade Oliver and with that additional pick draft another edge rusher. Let Basham take some snaps at DT. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted April 3, 2023 Share Posted April 3, 2023 he was a great soldier? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted April 3, 2023 Share Posted April 3, 2023 Shaq outperformed his cost last year and I hope no one else offers him anything. that being said he is a known commodity and his floor and ceiling are about average 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted April 3, 2023 Share Posted April 3, 2023 I think we all can agree that if Groot, Epenesa, and Basham would step up this year it’d render this thread relatively meaningless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted April 3, 2023 Share Posted April 3, 2023 Meh. Never been a Shaq fan since we drafted him. Looked to be a steal at 19, but he was damaged goods, like McGahee. At least he didn't ***** all over Buffalo like Willis did. I could take him or leave him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted April 3, 2023 Share Posted April 3, 2023 How about a different philosophy other than one built around journeymen and Bills retreads on 1 year contracts. Bills keep drafting high at D....and then have to bring in these vets for significant snaps. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted April 3, 2023 Share Posted April 3, 2023 (edited) Shaq needs a whiny girlfriend on twitter Edited April 3, 2023 by HOUSE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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