Nonsense speculation from a talking head begging for attention

[Nextmanup]

"Three years ago, receiver Stefon Diggs tweeted his way out of Minnesota. After three years in Buffalo, capped by a playoff loss featuring frustrations and gesticulations that could be interpreted as a desire for yet another fresh start, speculation has emerged again that Diggs could again be on the move..."

 

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2023/02/21/a-stefon-diggs-trade-would-come-with-a-major-cap-charge-for-the-bills/

[london_bills]

2 minutes ago, Nextmanup said:

"Three years ago, receiver Stefon Diggs tweeted his way out of Minnesota. After three years in Buffalo, capped by a playoff loss featuring frustrations and gesticulations that could be interpreted as a desire for yet another fresh start, speculation has emerged again that Diggs could again be on the move..."

 

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2023/02/21/a-stefon-diggs-trade-would-come-with-a-major-cap-charge-for-the-bills/

We wouldn't get more than one 1st for him so not worth it

Edited February 22, 2023 by london_bills

[DrDawkinstein]

No.

[Einstein]

People can deny it all they want, but there is A LOT of smoke going on with Diggs for there not to be at least a small fire.

[Jauronimo]

Ridiculous.

[DrDawkinstein]

1 minute ago, Einstein said:

People can deny it all they want, but there is A LOT of smoke going on with Diggs for there not to be at least a small fire.

 

There is no smoke. There is no fire. This is just some dust being kicked up by bored analysts needing something to talk about in the doldrums of the offseason.

[Success]

Yeah, and Brady might re-join the Patriots, too.

 

[GunnerBill]

2 minutes ago, Einstein said:

People can deny it all they want, but there is A LOT of smoke going on with Diggs for there not to be at least a small fire.

 

Oh I think there is a small fire. I think he is pissed with the organisation for losing, pissed with Dorsey's playcalling and pissed with Josh for not getting him the ball when he is open. The question is whether the situation is salvageable. I think at the moment it definitely is. The relationship between Josh and Stef is the key one that needs fixing. It definitely fractured some down the stretch this year. They need to get together while they are off. Throw together and work out what got mixed up in their chemistry late last year. Josh is a better Quarterback when he is throwing the ball to Stef a lot. Stef is a better receiver with Josh Allen. They need each other. And for that reason I expect it gets fixed. 

[Buffalo_Stampede]

5 minutes ago, Einstein said:

People can deny it all they want, but there is A LOT of smoke going on with Diggs for there not to be at least a small fire.

It’s impossible for cap reasons. Maybe if he takes pay cut.

[nucci]

Florio just makes ***** up. 

[SCBills]

The core of this team has failed 3 years in a row.  

 

As far as I'm concerned, the only immovable piece is Josh Allen.  

 

If someone wants to give us RD1 pick for Diggs.  Fine by me.  Just, for the love of God, get Josh Allen a legit OL.  If he has time, he will torch any defense, provided we reset the weaponry with a couple high picks and a vet WR.

 

I can't say I necessarily hate the idea of spending his money on OL in FA, bringing in OBJ and then double dipping early on say... Jordan Addison and Smith-Njigba or Jalin Hyatt.

 

Edited February 22, 2023 by SCBills

[Nextmanup]

4 minutes ago, nucci said:

Florio just makes ***** up. 

I have no idea if there's any smoke or fire!  My instinct says "no."

 

I do know that there is an ARMY of media guys who make a living discussing the NFL all day, every day.

They need things to talk about; that's a fact.

 

 

Just now, SCBills said:

The core of this team has failed 3 years in a row.  

 

As far as I'm concerned, the only immovable piece is Josh Allen.  

 

If someone wants to give us a haul for Diggs.  Fine by me.  Just, for the love of God, get Josh Allen a legit OL.  If he has time, he will torch any defense, provided we reset the weaponry with a couple high picks and, say, OBJ.  

 

If someone is willing to give us a package, or pick, in RD1.  I can't say I necessarily hate the idea of spending his money on OL in FA, bringing in OBJ and then double dipping early on say... Jordan Addison and Smith-Njigba or Jalin Hyatt.

Look at KC this last off-season.  They lose the guy I consider to be the most dangerous WR in the league, and they actually got BETTER offensively, statistically speaking.

 

If the team improves, I agree, pack Diggs' bags.  But I think it's more likely we regress if we lose him.

 

 

[HappyDays]

9 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

The relationship between Josh and Stef is the key one that needs fixing. It definitely fractured some down the stretch this year. They need to get together while they are off. Throw together and work out what got mixed up in their chemistry late last year.

 

There is not nearly enough attention given to Allen's UCL injury. I think that alone could explain why the offense became so boom or bust in the second half of the season. Deep throws aren't as dependent on elbow flexion. Short and intermediate throws are. I saw a noticeable dip in Allen's short and intermediate accuracy after that Jets game. I think there was a concerted effort to hide the injury as much as possible so we lost some of those rhythm throws that I know Allen can hit in his sleep.

Diggs is at his best on those intermediate throws. Once we lost consistency to that area his production tapered off. It's also possible that defenses figured out how to take Diggs out of the game once they had enough film on Dorsey's scheme.

[thenorthremembers]

If the Bills trade Diggs this year prior to June 1st they have to eat 95 million dollars in dead cap over the next five years, including eating 37.5 million this season.  If they try and do it post June 1st they will eat 37.5 million dollars over the next five years, including a 11 million dollar cap hit this year.

 

I suppose they could try and do it post June 1st, but not sure how a cap strapped team is going to eat 11 million dollars in cap.   Next year is a lot more likely.

 

I wouldnt mind them moving on if they can get a WR back in the trade.  I thoroughly think the guy is starting to be a pain but going to very hard to move him this year.    If they do happen to look at this I hope to God they send his butt to a terrible team so he can see what it means to really fail.

 

 

https://overthecap.com/player/stefon-diggs/3994

Edited February 22, 2023 by thenorthremembers

[Bills!Win!]

Only idiotic teams trade their best players 

[first_and_ten]

Just now, Bills!Win! said:

Only idiotic teams trade their best players 

 

Right, Tennessee for example. Trading Brown was a huge mistake. 

[KDIGGZ]

He already signed his big contract. Too late now, too big of a cap hit. If this was last year there could have been something to it. There's no amount of picks that could replace this guy plus be worth it considering the cap issues

[Fleezoid]

After reading that, I've come to the conclusion that the offseason sucks, and we've come to the point where the pundits are scraping the sludge from the bottom of the storyline barrel. 

 

[wppete]

Florio is a complete idiot. Nothing but controversy. A miserable person. 

[QB Bills]

21 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Oh I think there is a small fire. I think he is pissed with the organisation for losing, pissed with Dorsey's playcalling and pissed with Josh for not getting him the ball when he is open. The question is whether the situation is salvageable. I think at the moment it definitely is. The relationship between Josh and Stef is the key one that needs fixing. It definitely fractured some down the stretch this year. They need to get together while they are off. Throw together and work out what got mixed up in their chemistry late last year. Josh is a better Quarterback when he is throwing the ball to Stef a lot. Stef is a better receiver with Josh Allen. They need each other. And for that reason I expect it gets fixed. 

Not sure it's more Dorsey than it is McDermott. He mentioned a few times that some teams are particularly offensively minded. Seemed like more of a high level criticism than anything. Can't say I disagree with him. 

 

[Straight Hucklebuck]

The media working their hardest to manifest a story out of mid-air.

 

Whose on Diggs short list?

 

The Bengals? The Chiefs? The Eagles? 49ers?

 

Or really he has to get to Dallas so he can play with Dak Prescott? 
 

He’s been paid and he gets more exposure on National TV here then he did in Minnesota.

 

Hope he got real with Beane and McDermott in his exit interview, but no way you’re leaving Buffalo. 

 

 

[KingBoots8]

Media needs headlines until the combine. This is a Nothingburger.

[Straight Hucklebuck]

27 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Oh I think there is a small fire. I think he is pissed with the organisation for losing, pissed with Dorsey's playcalling and pissed with Josh for not getting him the ball when he is open. The question is whether the situation is salvageable. I think at the moment it definitely is. The relationship between Josh and Stef is the key one that needs fixing. It definitely fractured some down the stretch this year. They need to get together while they are off. Throw together and work out what got mixed up in their chemistry late last year. Josh is a better Quarterback when he is throwing the ball to Stef a lot. Stef is a better receiver with Josh Allen. They need each other. And for that reason I expect it gets fixed. 

I think the Bills need to diversify.

 

Diggs isn’t enough. 
 

And where was Stefon in Kansas City 2021? 

[Ethan in Cleveland]

14 minutes ago, Bills!Win! said:

Only idiotic teams trade their best players 

Of course this is not universally true. Every situation is different. Jets traded Adams, Seahawks traded Wilson. Minn traded Diggs and it worked out just fine for them. 

No way they should trade Diggs.

If Diggs wants out,  it is a further indictment of McDermott and Beane's inability to win in the playoffs. 

[MrEpsYtown]

I don’t think he is going anywhere, but just for semantics, Diggs for CeeDee Lamb…who says no? I think it’s close

[Beck Water]

40 minutes ago, Nextmanup said:

"Three years ago, receiver Stefon Diggs tweeted his way out of Minnesota. After three years in Buffalo, capped by a playoff loss featuring frustrations and gesticulations that could be interpreted as a desire for yet another fresh start, speculation has emerged again that Diggs could again be on the move..."

 

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2023/02/21/a-stefon-diggs-trade-would-come-with-a-major-cap-charge-for-the-bills/

 

The conclusion of Florio's piece is the opposite of "more trade talk".  Florio is saying that it does not make sense for the Bills to trade Diggs:

 

Quote

Although nothing can be ruled out, there’s one major complication that didn’t apply when the Vikings traded Diggs in 2020. Given the contract that Diggs received last year, a trade before June 1 would trigger a cap charge for the Bills of $34.775 million.
 

The other problem is that the Bills don’t really have any other high-end receivers. They could try to sign one or trade for one, or they could try to get one on the draft.
 

But they have one. It makes far more sense to make him happy than to move on after only 50 regular-season games.

 

[cba fan]

32 minutes ago, SCBills said:

The core of this team has failed 3 years in a row.  

 

As far as I'm concerned, the only immovable piece is Josh Allen.  

 

If someone wants to give us RD1 pick for Diggs.  Fine by me.  Just, for the love of God, get Josh Allen a legit OL.  If he has time, he will torch any defense, provided we reset the weaponry with a couple high picks and a vet WR.

 

I can't say I necessarily hate the idea of spending his money on OL in FA, bringing in OBJ and then double dipping early on say... Jordan Addison and Smith-Njigba or Jalin Hyatt.

 

he comes with big cap hit if they move him and that lessens ablity to get Oline help for Allen

[SCBills]

1 minute ago, cba fan said:

he comes with big cap hit if they move him and that lessens ablity to get Oline help for Allen

 

Yea, I see that now.  Makes no sense unless someone blows us away with a trade package.. which for a guy with his cap hit is likely not happening.

[Ga boy]

40 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Oh I think there is a small fire. I think he is pissed with the organisation for losing, pissed with Dorsey's playcalling and pissed with Josh for not getting him the ball when he is open. The question is whether the situation is salvageable. I think at the moment it definitely is. The relationship between Josh and Stef is the key one that needs fixing. It definitely fractured some down the stretch this year. They need to get together while they are off. Throw together and work out what got mixed up in their chemistry late last year. Josh is a better Quarterback when he is throwing the ball to Stef a lot. Stef is a better receiver with Josh Allen. They need each other. And for that reason I expect it gets fixed. 

Doesnt SD14 see the film with JA17 running for his life?  It gets fixed when Diggs sees signing and drafting of better O line.  

[Royale with Cheese]

27 minutes ago, first_and_ten said:

 

Right, Tennessee for example. Trading Brown was a huge mistake. 

 

Well I guess the argument can be made the Chiefs traded Hill...

[Airseven]

This stuff gets blown so far out of proportion...but alas it's good for content.

 

I'm fine with trading him so long as the thought process is to blow the whole thing up. If it's a one-off trade for whatever financial/personality reason, then no thanks. 

 

[TheFunPolice]

I think Diggs is just frustrated like we all are.

 

Beane and McDermott are going to be under the microscope going forward. You know how teams like the Chargers, Packers, Cowboys, and others have been making the playoffs, not winning, and the national talk is about the head coach not being good enough?

 

That's going to be the talk around McDermott if this team keeps getting bounced in the playoffs. 

 

 

Edited February 22, 2023 by TheFunPolice

[Straight Hucklebuck]

Chiefs 

Trade Hill and still win SB - WIN

 

Titans

Trade AJ Brown and don't make Playoffs - LOSS

 

Packers

Trade Adams and don't make Playoffs - LOSS

 

Texans

Trade Hopkins and fall apart - LOSS

 

Cowboys 

Give away Cooper and now are looking for more weapons - LOSS

 

Vikings 

Trade away Diggs and immediately draft Jefferson - WIN

 

 

 

2 Wins verses 4 Losses, doesn't seem likely this helps the Bills. 

[Not at the table Karlos]

11 minutes ago, Ga boy said:

Doesnt SD14 see the film with JA17 running for his life?  It gets fixed when Diggs sees signing and drafting of better O line.  

But there's also times where he has clean pocket and ignores wide open receivers underneath to force a ball into triple coverage deep. There's more than one issue at pretty much every level of this offense. Josh is such a freak that he can overcome his and others mistakes at times to put up good numbers. 

 

Edited February 22, 2023 by Not at the table Karlos

[Airseven]

1 minute ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

Well I guess the argument can be made the Chiefs traded Hill...

 

Hill had more value than Diggs now, Chiefs were primed to win even without him (Mahomes + Kelce), and their front office was capable of maximizing the draft pick return. At this point, losing Diggs would cripple the Bills offense and we know Beane throws darts during the draft.   

[78thealltimegreat]

47 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Oh I think there is a small fire. I think he is pissed with the organisation for losing, pissed with Dorsey's playcalling and pissed with Josh for not getting him the ball when he is open. The question is whether the situation is salvageable. I think at the moment it definitely is. The relationship between Josh and Stef is the key one that needs fixing. It definitely fractured some down the stretch this year. They need to get together while they are off. Throw together and work out what got mixed up in their chemistry late last year. Josh is a better Quarterback when he is throwing the ball to Stef a lot. Stef is a better receiver with Josh Allen. They need each other. And for that reason I expect it gets fixed. 

I disagree in an extent that Allen can make any receiver look good just as long as he gets time to work with them look what he did for Gabe Davis last year.

 

Beane knew what he was trading for when he got Diggs out of Minnesota when Diggs started to take backseat to Adam Theilen and did not like it at all.

 

This is all moot though do to cap issues but if it wasn’t I could see Buffalo dealing him to a receiver needy team like Cleveland and taking then Buffalo taking Quentin Johnston. 

[JoPoy88]

58 minutes ago, Nextmanup said:

"Three years ago, receiver Stefon Diggs tweeted his way out of Minnesota. After three years in Buffalo, capped by a playoff loss featuring frustrations and gesticulations that could be interpreted as a desire for yet another fresh start, speculation has emerged again that Diggs could again be on the move..."

 

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2023/02/21/a-stefon-diggs-trade-would-come-with-a-major-cap-charge-for-the-bills/

this is one of those pure speculation blurbs Florio and his gang post, especially in the offseason. There’s no substance behind it, beyond “well, Diggs did it once before in Minnesota.”

[DCbillsfan]

59 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

It’s impossible for cap reasons. Maybe if he takes pay cut.

Thank you!  Per Spotrac, $45M dead cap hit if they were to get rid of him.  His base salary is $7.9 M this year.  Everything else Bills would have to eat in a trade.  Diggs isn't going anywhere.  Florio is an idiot.

[78thealltimegreat]

20 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said:

I don’t think he is going anywhere, but just for semantics, Diggs for CeeDee Lamb…who says no? I think it’s close

I will not disagree Diggs has suction cups for hands but Lamb is a homerun threat every time he touches the ball 

[Simon]

55 minutes ago, Nextmanup said:

I have no idea if there's any smoke or fire!  

I do know that there is an ARMY of media guys who make a living discussing the NFL all day, every day.

They need things to talk about; that's a fact.

 

And you think they all deserve their own thread about whatever nonsense speculation they spit out to attract attention to themselves?

C'mon man, be better...