We're onto Miami(Miami's headed to Buffalo)...opening line BUF -10! Game at 1:05 PM SUN 1/15

[CircleTheWagons99]

I'm really holding out hope that both our OC and DC have been holding back waiting for the playoffs, not to show their hand and come out with something we haven't seen yet and just dominate.  

[Big Turk]

1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

 

1st in DVOA, 1st in PFR's SRS(Simple Rating System) and 1st in ESPN FPI.  Yeah they are pretty f**king good.

[nucci]

13 minutes ago, CNYfan said:

Let us face the Miami football team at their best.  This Board went from dissing TT to the max, to being afraid of him.  

I hope TT and Mostert play.  I want to beat their best in the playoffs.    

Can we get Hyde and Miller back ?

1 minute ago, Big Turk said:

 

1st in DVOA, 1st in PFR's SRS(Simple Rating System) and 1st in ESPN FPI.  Yeah they are pretty f**king good.

sometimes these new stats from analytics can be annoying...DVOA, FPI..It's the 13-3 record that says they're good

[UKBillFan]

12 minutes ago, WhitewalkerInPhilly said:

A big reason why the Bengals hit was so bad was the Tua still hadn't recovered. If they bench him and let him heal they don't go on a multi game skid and the Steelers hit doesn't take him out for as long. 

Fair point - plus the hit against the Packers was very minor in the great scheme of things. If he had been treated properly during the Bills game perhaps that wouldn’t have effected him to such an extent either.

[newcam2012]

Just now, BuffaloBills1998 said:

I think ralonzo said it best. If Fraizer uses cover 2 shell then that’s the only way Buffalo screws this game up. 

I get that but what alternatives does he have. The Bills CBs can't play man. The seem ineffective or unwilling to chuck WRs at the line of scrimmage. The Bills secondary is not really playing well and frankly not very good. Jones burned them when they blitzed and the Pats have no explosive WRs. Pick you poison I guess. Maybe a good Xs and Os person can elaborate more. I know Gunner Bill posted the schemes of the Chargers and Niners. 

[Big Turk]

3 minutes ago, nucci said:

Can we get Hyde and Miller back ?

sometimes these new stats from analytics can be annoying...DVOA, FPI..It's the 13-3 record that says they're good

 

Partially...the issue in the NFL, unlike other sports is that every team doesn't play every other team, so you need some way to try and normalize things to make up for the fact that teams play relatively tougher or easier schedules than other teams.

[Coach Tuesday]

6 minutes ago, CircleTheWagons99 said:

I'm really holding out hope that both our OC and DC have been holding back waiting for the playoffs, not to show their hand and come out with something we haven't seen yet and just dominate.  

 

That's kind of where I'm at with your meme game.

[Low Positive]

3 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

 

Partially...the issue in the NFL, unlike other sports is that every team doesn't play every other team, so you need some way to try and normalize things to make up for the fact that teams play relatively tougher or easier schedules than other teams.

Do they adjust for weather?

[Sestak4ever]

Mike Girardi reported this morning on NFL network that the Bills looked spent both emotionally and physically all week in their preparation for New England. He said he wasn’t sure how they would be able to handle the game and expected both ups and downs. It will be interesting to see how the prep week goes for this game, especially with Damar just being released from the hospital.

[BRH]

45 minutes ago, Mark Vader said:

How many times have these teams faced each other in the post season?

 

Four.  Twice here and twice in Miami.

 

2-0 here.  1-1 there (with the one win being the AFCCG).

 

44-34 Bills (1990 season, Buffalo)

29-10 Bills (1993 season, Miami)

37-22 Bills (1995 season, Buffalo)

24-17 Dolphins (1998 season, Miami)

 

I expect an offensive output similar to that of the previous games in Buffalo.

Edited January 9, 2023 by BRH

[Fleezoid]

3 concussions this year. There's no way Tua plays.

 

It's the playoffs. Tua's playing.

 

Just don't want anyone disagreeing with me. 

[BIGFOOTspaceman]

12 minutes ago, CircleTheWagons99 said:

I'm really holding out hope that both our OC and DC have been holding back waiting for the playoffs, not to show their hand and come out with something we haven't seen yet and just dominate.  

I've been running this conspiracy theory in my head almost all season, and hope it's true. Likely not though.  I think McD, Frazier and Dorsey are all confident in their respective schemes and execution is the only thing holding this team back from being truly dominant.  

[Ralonzo]

10 minutes ago, newcam2012 said:

I get that but what alternatives does he have. The Bills CBs can't play man. The seem ineffective or unwilling to chuck WRs at the line of scrimmage. The Bills secondary is not really playing well and frankly not very good. Jones burned them when they blitzed and the Pats have no explosive WRs. Pick you poison I guess. Maybe a good Xs and Os person can elaborate more. I know Gunner Bill posted the schemes of the Chargers and Niners. 

 

Do you run the scheme that doesn't work but your players can handle, or run the scheme that does work and coach the damn players to run it? These guys are paid a lot as coaches. Go and coach.

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

13 minutes ago, newcam2012 said:

I get that but what alternatives does he have. The Bills CBs can't play man. The seem ineffective or unwilling to chuck WRs at the line of scrimmage. The Bills secondary is not really playing well and frankly not very good. Jones burned them when they blitzed and the Pats have no explosive WRs. Pick you poison I guess. Maybe a good Xs and Os person can elaborate more. I know Gunner Bill posted the schemes of the Chargers and Niners. 

 

Buffalo had 4 300 yard passers allowed this year.  

 

Minnesota - Overtime and honestly Minnesota played really well, but there were also a handful of ways buffalo could and should have won that game.

Cleveland - Definition of garbage time.  150 yards and 2 TDs in the last 7 minutes when they were down 28-10.  

KC - Believe it or not but they had more than the 319 net passing yards they had against buffalo, in 8 games.  The 68 net rushing yards was their 3rd lowest on the year.

Pitt - They ran 55 pass plays in a beat down. 

Edited January 9, 2023 by Bleeding Bills Blue

[Greg S]

7 minutes ago, Sestak4ever said:

Mike Girardi reported this morning on NFL network that the Bills looked spent both emotionally and physically all week in their preparation for New England. He said he wasn’t sure how they would be able to handle the game and expected both ups and downs. It will be interesting to see how the prep week goes for this game, especially with Damar just being released from the hospital.

 

I am sure it will be a lot easier this week. Most important is Damar is on the road to recovery, so the team won't be stressed over his health. It will be a normal week practice wise also as they get back into a normal routine.

[wjag]

At the end of the day, the Oline is really what’s holding this team back.  Way too many times Allen is forced off script.  New England had him running for his life.  

[Scott7975]

Tua or no Tua, bring it.  Bunch of damn scared kids hiding under their covers in this thread.  Probably the same ones that were scared of playing NE last year cus big bad old mean Belichick and playing the same team 3 times crap.

3 minutes ago, wjag said:

At the end of the day, the Oline is really what’s holding this team back.  Way too many times Allen is forced off script.  New England had him running for his life.  

 

As probably will Miami because all they know how to do is blitz.

[Big Turk]

16 minutes ago, FrenchConnection said:

Do they adjust for weather?

 

I don't think so.

[BRH]

46 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said:

Dolphins board doesn't care if Tua ends up brain dead, they want him on the field no matter what. They said other QB's made it through all 5 steps in 1 day so Tua should definitely play. If they cared about their team they would listen to the doctors. They have a very small chance of beating us with Tua and even if they somehow did by some fluke play do you think they have a chance against Cinci and then KC? Dolphins fans are the worst

 

The league is not interested in anything that would elevate the chances of another Hamlin-type incident so soon after what just happened... ESPECIALLY if it can't be explained away as a freak 1-in-a-million accident. They all saw what happened to him on that Thursday night in Cincinnati.  If Tua goes out there Sunday and has another fencing episode, or worse.... this might be hyperbole, but the NFL just might be over for the year.  At best they're going to face all kinds of lawsuits and be dragged through a terrible PR wringer.

 

Tua's not playing Sunday.  And that's not his fault.  That's McNerd's fault, and he should be fired for it.

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

7 minutes ago, Scott7975 said:

Tua or no Tua, bring it.  Bunch of damn scared kids hiding under their covers in this thread.  Probably the same ones that were scared of playing NE last year cus big bad old mean Belichick and playing the same team 3 times crap.

 

As probably will Miami because all they know how to do is blitz.

Didn’t even really work for them when we were missing two offensive line starters in the last meeting.  

[Casey D]

21 minutes ago, Sestak4ever said:

Mike Girardi reported this morning on NFL network that the Bills looked spent both emotionally and physically all week in their preparation for New England. He said he wasn’t sure how they would be able to handle the game and expected both ups and downs. It will be interesting to see how the prep week goes for this game, especially with Damar just being released from the hospital.

Well that was the complete opposite of what Nance and Romo reported.  Talking heads.

[BRH]

16 minutes ago, Ralonzo said:

 

Do you run the scheme that doesn't work but your players can handle, or run the scheme that does work and coach the damn players to run it? These guys are paid a lot as coaches. Go and coach.

 

I feel like we had this conversation 20 years ago with Greggo and his damn 46 defense.

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

Just now, Casey D said:

Well that was the complete opposite of what Nance and Romo reported.  Talking heads.

I think romo and nance were talking about a period closer to kickoff than Girardi is talking about.  Once damar conferenced with them they were probably fired up 

[Gugny]

21 minutes ago, BRH said:

 

Four.  Twice here and twice in Miami.

 

2-0 here.  1-1 there (with the one win being the AFCCG).

 

44-34 Bills (1990 season, Buffalo)

29-10 Bills (1993 season, Miami)

37-22 Bills (1995 season, Buffalo)

24-17 Dolphins (1998 season, Miami)

 

I expect an offensive output similar to that of the previous games in Buffalo.

 

Crap!  So they've got some momentum going into this game!

 

@SWATeam

@GoBills808

 

[SCBills]

Just now, Casey D said:

Well that was the complete opposite of what Nance and Romo reported.  Talking heads.

 

I'd tend to agree with Giardi.  Tasker talked about this as well.

[Magox]

20 hours ago, Chaos said:

Please elaborate. Their defense held the opponents to enough to win 14 times this year.  How bad is it? 

Google is your friend 

[GoBills808]

Hoping Tua plays so I can get BUF at a better number

[Big Turk]

Bills played the 4th toughest schedule in the NFL this year based on SOS.  Cardinals, Falcons and Ravens were the 3 ahead of the Bills.  Only the Ravens made the playoffs. 

[Casey D]

3 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

I think romo and nance were talking about a period closer to kickoff than Girardi is talking about.  Once damar conferenced with them they were probably fired up 

That is not what was reported, but OK.

[JGMcD2]

Raheem Mostert broke his thumb against the Jets...

[appoo]

5 minutes ago, Casey D said:

Well that was the complete opposite of what Nance and Romo reported.  Talking heads.

I always assumed it was what Girardi said. Trauma is the worst stuff on earth. Steps recovering from it can inspire swings upward, but ultimately trauma is incredibly draining of spirit and body. The Bills pulling that win out anf getting STRONGER in the 3rd and 4th is among their very best performances of the season, and likely multiple seasons. 

 

As a side note, I fear the PTSD impacts on players. Tre was showing classic PTSD symptoms, I hope he'd getting the help he needs and deserves. I would hope any of these players look beyond the game, and take care of their soul and spirit first. 

 

You watched a brother die in front of you. Don't minimize that 

[stevewin]

24 minutes ago, Fleezoid said:

3 concussions this year. There's no way Tua plays.

 

It's the playoffs. Tua's playing.

 

Just don't want anyone disagreeing with me. 

Have heard reports that Tua said he wants to play - if that's true I can't believe he wouldn't just tell the doctors what they need to hear to clear him

[Buffalo Ballin]

2 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

Bills played the 4th toughest schedule in the NFL this year based on SOS.  Cardinals, Falcons and Ravens were the 3 ahead of the Bills.  Only the Ravens made the playoffs. 

4th toughest schedule?

 

The reality is we had the toughest schedule according to Damar Hamlin's death and resurrection, brutal snow blizzards, Thursday nights, Saturday nights, Von Miller ACL, Hyde out, injured riddled Jordan Poyer, and Josh Allen's arm injury.

 

Now we have to run the gauntlet vs. Dolphins, Bengals, and Chiefs, to get to the Super Bowl.

[freddyjj]

55 minutes ago, newcam2012 said:

My gut tells me Tua and Mosert both play

I get the Tua concussion protocol timeline may allow him to play.  How does a RB play with a broken thumb?  Will it not be in a cast or some restraint?  If so won't that site be padded making it harder to catch, carry and secure the ball?  Any former players or trainers please feel free to chime in

[Big Turk]

6 minutes ago, Buffalo Ballin said:

4th toughest schedule?

 

The reality is we had the toughest schedule according to Damar Hamlin's death and resurrection, brutal snow blizzards, Thursday nights, Saturday nights, Von Miller ACL, Hyde out, injured riddled Jordan Poyer, and Josh Allen's arm injury.

 

Now we have to run the gauntlet vs. Dolphins, Bengals, and Chiefs, to get to the Super Bowl.

 

Yeah, that was just based on the records of the opponents, not including any of the other stuff.

[Fleezoid]

4 minutes ago, stevewin said:

Have heard reports that Tua said he wants to play - if that's true I can't believe he wouldn't just tell the doctors what they need to hear to clear him

 

I also heard he has memory issues.

 

Doctor: "Tua, what day is it?"

Tua: "Easy doc, It's Monday."

Doctor: "Where were you yesterday?"

Tua: "Who are you?"

[Jauronimo]

49 minutes ago, BuffaloBills1998 said:

I think ralonzo said it best. If Fraizer uses cover 2 shell then that’s the only way Buffalo screws this game up. 

They can play their base defense and win as long as they execute adn don't still manage to give up the big play despite a bend but don't break approach.  The last two meetings they failed to limit Hill, Waddle, and Mostert from hitting the home run.

[BillsShredder83]

1 hour ago, Motorin' said:

 

The chasm between his 51% catch rate on his nearly 100 target and a 65% catch rate, which is where he needs to be, is around 1 more catch per game.

 

Just an observation. 

 

agreed. my consistency problem isnt that. its him having had 2 monster games, and dissappearing in a few. heck i dont even care as much about yards as i do catches / game. diggs cant be the only guy getting open. he needs to win more routes.  the number of catches is too low. hes not helping us move the chains. hes causing josh to have to play hero ball on plays where diggs isnt open. the yards suck minus a few games honestly... but the receptions per game is 2.82, and that is hot trash. its killing drives.

 

hes benefitting a lot from diggs being the #1. its unacceptable. if youre going to lay a bunch of stinkers for yds/game, you need to AT LEAST catch more and become an outlet of sorts. 

 

17ypc is good #3 numbers. even if he only had an extra 2-3 catches/game for 5 yards each imo it would make a difference, but way too boom or bust

 

 

[Airseven]

ESPN radio is saying Tua is tracking to play according to their “insiders.”

[Dillenger4]

I have a very hard time believing that Tua won't play. I think he will start for sure. We will hear by Thursday/Friday. It seems wrong but this is the Playoffs. Mike McD will want this win bad. Whatever it takes.